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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 06:14 PM)maximus Wrote: (09-14-2021 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Meh.
Meh?
Bwahaha
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 03:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (09-14-2021 02:08 PM)gdunn Wrote: (09-14-2021 02:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-14-2021 01:59 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions
Isn't the oath to protect from all things foreign and domestic? An oath to the Constitution and not the president?
But I am glad you are all taking this as 100% gospel. Should make things entertaining when the rest of the details of that trainwreck of an administration are revealed!
Yes they take this oath, but at what point was Trump declaring he was going to do this? Have there been documented cases?
If not, he wasn't protecting this country, he was being political and that is not covered by his oath and could be considered treasonous for contacting a foreign leader, whom he was not authorized to contact.
You want to watch a trainwreck, watch the current administration that you seem to defend daily.
Someone refresh my failing memory.
What was it that got Gen. Flynn all framed up, bankrupted and selling his family home? Threatened his kid?
I was thinking the same thing about Flynn. Calling any foreign country especially China or Russia is grounds for dismissal. If this is true we have Flakes for our top military brass. He needs to be skewered if this is valid. If it isn’t Woodward and pal need to be skewered. I’m leaning toward this is true because of the way the Flake defended CRT. My God our Government has became a rotten fish head that has now gang greened our military.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 02:08 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: Dude, the trainwreck is right in front of your eyes. Only a mentally ill person can not see what this administration of Bitem is doing.
You're just as crazy as the rest of the leftards that are doing their best to re-define Jan 6. as America's version of the Reichstag fire. Laughable.
It ain't working, normal people with functioning brains aren't buying the lie. But lying is what your side does best. Slowly, the rest of the sheeple are figuring it out, hence why even usually liberal college students are chanting something about Joe Biden at football and now even at baseball games.
But by all means don't let me stop you from going down with the ship......
I'd cheer it on.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
Nothing will come of this. He may retire and write a book though.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 02:18 PM)gdunn Wrote: (09-14-2021 02:17 PM)shere khan Wrote: (09-14-2021 01:28 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote: What is the punishment for Treason again? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
Cigarette and a blindfold
More damage would be done if he were dishonorably discharged, stripped of rank, it's privileges, his pension, and not allowed to work close to the US gov't for the rest of his days.
That’s good to. Then shoot him.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 03:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (09-14-2021 02:16 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: (09-14-2021 01:59 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions
I will also add that a joint chief or any military brass answers to a civilian authority through the chain of command, the President to the Secretary of Defense. Unilaterally doing ones own foreign policy engagement outside of civilian command including going around the Secretary of State is treasonous
Indeed. By the hysterically flawed "reasoning" above in the thread, some General can simply decide what he thinks is Constitutional or not, and he can act independently of the Civilian command. His oath is to the constitution afterall, not to "Man".
Dangerous il-logic, there.
The JCS report to the President as our senior military advisors. They have no command authority. But sure even though this information was report Jan 8 going on and run with it.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 11:25 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
Uhhh, not quite. Collaborating with a potential enemy to inform of any "potential" attack prior to such action is usurping the CinC's authority, particularly when the CinC has made no threats of such action that are documented. Not his call to make, and Milley knew it. He's no hero, he is a traitor, a political traitor, but a traitor nonetheless.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 11:34 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:25 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
Uhhh, not quite. Collaborating with a potential enemy to inform of any "potential" attack prior to such action is usurping the CinC's authority, particularly when the CinC has made no threats of such action that are documented. Not his call to make, and Milley knew it. He's no hero, he is a traitor, a political traitor, but a traitor nonetheless.
Oh please. We lived thru the Cold War and you don’t think there were calls made to make sure cooler heads prevailed?
Are all the other people in the book that were concerned about Trump’s stability close to the election and the Capitol raid traitors too? Choose wisely because that would make many here traitors for not supporting Biden? Should tell you something that even the Chinese thought Jan 6th was an insurrection.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-15-2021 03:30 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:34 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:25 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
Uhhh, not quite. Collaborating with a potential enemy to inform of any "potential" attack prior to such action is usurping the CinC's authority, particularly when the CinC has made no threats of such action that are documented. Not his call to make, and Milley knew it. He's no hero, he is a traitor, a political traitor, but a traitor nonetheless.
Oh please. We lived thru the Cold War and you don’t think there were calls made to make sure cooler heads prevailed?
Are all the other people in the book that were concerned about Trump’s stability close to the election and the Capitol raid traitors too? Choose wisely because that would make many here traitors for not supporting Biden? Should tell you something that even the Chinese thought Jan 6th was an insurrection.
Civilian authorities or military brass at the direction of civilian authorities would be making calls to make sure cooler heads prevailed during the Cold War, not some military general unilaterally on his own calling the Soviet Union giving them promises on possible first strike orders. He would be hanged for such things.
Just because some people in D.C. had TDS doesn’t make them look any better for something Trump didn’t order or do or suggest.
Side note: None of the defendants in Jan 6 have been charged with treason or insurrection by the Biden DOJ. Vast majority of them have been charged with trespassing
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(09-15-2021 03:30 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:34 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:25 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
Uhhh, not quite. Collaborating with a potential enemy to inform of any "potential" attack prior to such action is usurping the CinC's authority, particularly when the CinC has made no threats of such action that are documented. Not his call to make, and Milley knew it. He's no hero, he is a traitor, a political traitor, but a traitor nonetheless.
Oh please. We lived thru the Cold War and you don’t think there were calls made to make sure cooler heads prevailed?
Are all the other people in the book that were concerned about Trump’s stability close to the election and the Capitol raid traitors too? Choose wisely because that would make many here traitors for not supporting Biden? Should tell you something that even the Chinese thought Jan 6th was an insurrection.
Lol
Can’t say names here no longer, but you ain’ right. Like a branch with a wicked twist.
Carry on. Lol
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-15-2021 03:30 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: ...Capitol raid traitors...
Raid?
Traitors?
The left wants so desperately to make the events of 6 January into some kind of Reichstag Fire event, in order to justify suppression of dissent.
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-15-2021 05:17 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (09-15-2021 03:30 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:34 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:25 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
Uhhh, not quite. Collaborating with a potential enemy to inform of any "potential" attack prior to such action is usurping the CinC's authority, particularly when the CinC has made no threats of such action that are documented. Not his call to make, and Milley knew it. He's no hero, he is a traitor, a political traitor, but a traitor nonetheless.
Oh please. We lived thru the Cold War and you don’t think there were calls made to make sure cooler heads prevailed?
Are all the other people in the book that were concerned about Trump’s stability close to the election and the Capitol raid traitors too? Choose wisely because that would make many here traitors for not supporting Biden? Should tell you something that even the Chinese thought Jan 6th was an insurrection.
Lol
Can’t say names here no longer, but you ain’ right. Like a branch with a wicked twist.
Carry on. Lol
There are some seriously disturbing people on this board. Is there a procedure in place to get them the help they need?
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-14-2021 11:24 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 03:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: (09-14-2021 02:16 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: (09-14-2021 01:59 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions
I will also add that a joint chief or any military brass answers to a civilian authority through the chain of command, the President to the Secretary of Defense. Unilaterally doing ones own foreign policy engagement outside of civilian command including going around the Secretary of State is treasonous
Indeed. By the hysterically flawed "reasoning" above in the thread, some General can simply decide what he thinks is Constitutional or not, and he can act independently of the Civilian command. His oath is to the constitution afterall, not to "Man".
Dangerous il-logic, there.
The JCS report to the President as our senior military advisors. They have no command authority. But sure even though this information was report Jan 8 going on and run with it.
That's your take on this? Have you no shame? Are you a card carrying member of the American Communist party or just a sympathizer?
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RE: Milley Talked To Chinese Counterpart to Undermine Trump
(09-15-2021 03:30 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:34 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: (09-14-2021 11:25 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (09-14-2021 09:56 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: cnn and vindman excoriating milley? end times?
He met with his staff and wanted to make sure everyone followed the established process but go run with it.
Uhhh, not quite. Collaborating with a potential enemy to inform of any "potential" attack prior to such action is usurping the CinC's authority, particularly when the CinC has made no threats of such action that are documented. Not his call to make, and Milley knew it. He's no hero, he is a traitor, a political traitor, but a traitor nonetheless.
Oh please. We lived thru the Cold War and you don’t think there were calls made to make sure cooler heads prevailed?
Are all the other people in the book that were concerned about Trump’s stability close to the election and the Capitol raid traitors too? Choose wisely because that would make many here traitors for not supporting Biden? Should tell you something that even the Chinese thought Jan 6th was an insurrection.
Nobody here has said not supporting the POTUS is a traitor but you, nice to know where your thought process is.
The problem is that there was no reason to make this call and Milley was not authorized by his boss to make this call.
So either he's trying to take some heat off Biden for Afghanistan or he's an idiot.
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Who knew leftists actually support treason and collusion....
Wait a second, who am i kidding
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