Blinken testifying today for Afghanistan.
This coming out about Milley.

They have to protect Joe.

Meh.

What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions

(09-14-2021 01:59 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions

Isn't the oath to protect from all things foreign and domestic? An oath to the Constitution and not the president?

But I am glad you are all taking this as 100% gospel. Should make things entertaining when the rest of the details of that trainwreck of an administration are revealed!

(09-14-2021 02:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 01:59 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions

Isn't the oath to protect from all things foreign and domestic? An oath to the Constitution and not the president?

But I am glad you are all taking this as 100% gospel. Should make things entertaining when the rest of the details of that trainwreck of an administration are revealed!

Yes they take this oath, but at what point was Trump declaring he was going to do this? Have there been documented cases?

If not, he wasn't protecting this country, he was being political and that is not covered by his oath and could be considered treasonous for contacting a foreign leader, whom he was not authorized to contact.

You want to watch a trainwreck, watch the current administration that you seem to defend daily.

Dude, the trainwreck is right in front of your eyes. Only a mentally ill person can not see what this administration of Bitem is doing.

You're just as crazy as the rest of the leftards that are doing their best to re-define Jan 6. as America's version of the Reichstag fire. Laughable.

It ain't working, normal people with functioning brains aren't buying the lie. But lying is what your side does best. Slowly, the rest of the sheeple are figuring it out, hence why even usually liberal college students are chanting something about Joe Biden at football and now even at baseball games.

But by all means don't let me stop you from going down with the ship......

(09-14-2021 01:59 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  What someone may ‘think’ a commander in chief may do (he didn’t do it anyway) is no excuse for committing treason and breaking all oaths and legal responsibilities of their positions

I will also add that a joint chief or any military brass answers to a civilian authority through the chain of command, the President to the Secretary of Defense. Unilaterally doing ones own foreign policy engagement outside of civilian command including going around the Secretary of State is treasonous

(09-14-2021 01:28 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  What is the punishment for Treason again? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

Cigarette and a blindfold

(09-14-2021 12:36 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Firing Squad

Yup. Cant have that. A example is needed.

(09-14-2021 02:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 01:28 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  What is the punishment for Treason again? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

Cigarette and a blindfold

More damage would be done if he were dishonorably discharged, stripped of rank, it's privileges, his pension, and not allowed to work close to the US gov't for the rest of his days.

While your statement may be true, I'm looking for the deterrent effect.

I believe that many of these ass clowns believe (for good reason) that the U.S. would never carry out a death sentence for a proven case of treason. We've become too soft, too politically correct and have no stomach for it. That may well prove to be true.

Quote:The move to alert the CCP would have taken place via a secret backchannel set up by Milley and not sanctioned by the White House. For those who want to quibble with the term treason being used, here’s the legal definition of the act under 18 USC Ch. 115.

§2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Let’s think about this. This is a top US general secretly contacting a top Chinese general pledging to notify him of any coming attack without the Commander in Chief’s knowledge. In doing so, he would be betraying the American service members who would be carrying out such an attack, almost certainly leading to more casualties. Keep in mind in the event of an attack, we would then be at war with the Chinese, making them an enemy nation at that point.

I realize the fact-checkers are going to do their best to defend this, but assuming the report (courtesy of a new book by WaPo associate editor Bob Woodward and political reporter Robert Costa) is true, that’s treason, folks.

There is no “Well, I didn’t agree with the president” exemption to the law. And even putting aside the legal ramifications of what Milley pledged to do, it’s still an incredibly disturbing, disgusting act on its face. I understand he hated Donald Trump, but to promise to give aid and comfort to the enemy in response to that hatred is next-level stuff. It’s the kind of thing you’d expect to have read in a spy novel, not be admitted to by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Something has to happen here. Milley already needed to resign over the catastrophe that transpired in Afghanistan. Heck, he should have resigned for pushing woke-ism in the military. But this is far beyond any of that. This is a US general telling our top military and geopolitical enemy that he’d take their side in an attack and put American service members in grave danger to do so, all while hiding it from the president.

Can we also note that this is another example of America’s establishment class being subservient to China? Does anyone think a Chinese official would give us a heads up in the event of a surprise attack? Of course, they wouldn’t. This is dangerous stuff.

We do not elect generals and they do not have the right to operate this way. Milley, whether he likes it or not, is supposed to be accountable to elected officials. That he essentially set up his own military dictatorship while serving under Trump is one of the scariest things I’ve seen in a very long time.

Link

I thought Dr. Strangelove was just a movie.

(09-14-2021 12:33 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Two days after the January 6th riot at the United States Capitol, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley secretly took action to keep President Donald Trump from ordering the use of nuclear weapons.

The revelations come to light in Bob Woodward’s new book “Peril.”

“You never know what a president’s trigger point is,” Milley reportedly told his staff.

According to CNN, who reviewed the book, Milley ‘called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. […] Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.’

“No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley said, according to the book.

“Got it?” asked Milley.

“Yes, sir,” replied his senior staff.

Read more here.

The new book also alleges that Gen. Milley called his Chinese counterpart after January 6 because he was worried Trump would start a war with China.

Link

If this is to be believed, and that is ALWAYS a valid question these days with Woodward and his latest screed he hocking, it's now undeniable- Milley is a certifiable nut.

Trumps gonna launch nukes, militarily unprovoked. Right.

Now, perhaps, I dun heard it all.

Shoot him. That's what he deserves. And what will actually happen? Probably nothing.

(09-14-2021 12:56 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  "BREAKING: Several Pentagon officers present in Milley’s secret meeting are willing to testify against him under oath, per WH official"


Ohhh, this would be delicious. That B. Arnold would get his just desserts and it wouldn't be The SOB's ice cream.


I'mmmmm waiting...

Yea, don't hold your breath, this is career DeeCee we're talking about here.

Now, if Aunt Milley had any real honor, again assuming this is true and complete what took place, he would resign effective immediately and slink on off the stage into quiet retirement.

Likely time for that anyway, nut.

(09-14-2021 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Meh.

Thanks for your unsolicited opinion, Kevin Baron...