Perhaps they thought he said Oregano and not Oregon...

Dang. Ohio State has hearing issues as well?? That's a shame. Probably loud music or not following OSHA safety measures at work...

(09-07-2021 04:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 09:50 AM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  Unfortunately, Memphis exceeds the 10% or less unwritten race/ethnicity threshold rule to be considered for inclusion in expansion.


Memphis is well above average when it comes to Racial/Ethnic diversity.
47.5% White; 34% Black; 6.7% Hispanic
Houston
33.6% Hispanic; 23.6% Asian; 21.7% White; 10.6% Black; 4.7% International
Boise
73.9% White; 13.4% Hispanic; 5.3% Multi-Ethnic; 2.2% Asian; 1.5% Unknown; 1.5% Black
UCF
41.7% White; 27.5% Hispanic; 10.2% Black
Cincinnati
52.9% White; 26.1% International; 6.2% Black; 4.6% Asian


Current Big 12 schools:
Baylor
61.4% White; 15.6% Hispanic; 7.1% Asian; 5.5% Black
Iowa State
75.5% White; 6.3% Hispanic; 5.3% International; 4% Unknown; 3.6% Asian; 2.6% Multi-Ethnic; 2.4% Black
Kansas
70.5% White; 8.6% Hispanic; 5.8% International; 5.2% Multi-Ethnic; 4.9% Asian; 4.1% Black
Kansas State
78.7% White; 7.4% Hispanic; 4.2% International; 3.6 Multi-Ethnic; 2.8% Black
Oklahoma
60.3% White; 10.3% Hispanic; 9% Multi-Ethnic; 6.7% Asian; 4.5% International; 4.4% Black
Oklahoma State
68.6% White; 9.4% Multi-Ethnic; 8.2% Hispanic; 3.8% Black
TCU
68.7% White; 14.6% Hispanic; 5.1% Black
Texas
38% White; 24.6% Hispanic; 22.9% Asian; 5.4% International; 4.3% Black
Texas Tech
54% White; 28.8% Hispanic; 6.3% Black
West Virginia
80.1% White; 5.7% International; 4.1% Hispanic; 4% Multi-Ethnic; 3.8% Black

Statistics provided via collegfactual.com

To be clear, every school being invited ahead of Memphis exceeds your 10% racial diversity rule.

In fact, of the 5 schools listed - Memphis, UCF, Cincy, Houston, Boise - only Boise and possibly Cincy are LESS diverse than Memphis is. If racial diversity is THE factor, then Memphis is not diverse enough.

I don't for one second think that just because Memphis is 34% Black, that we are viewed as an exponentially worse candidate than Houston at 34% Hispanic, or UCF at "only" 42% White.

Truth is likely a combination of a bunch of things listed by various people in this thread. The race of the school is likely NOT one of those factors - but the overall demographics of the city could be.

Some people get so caught up in White/Black that they really don't realize there are more races than those 2...

Very good points.

If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

(09-13-2021 01:55 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

I'm not denying slavery in this country. We're talking about the Big 12. Apples to oranges. Your logic is flawed. Your OP said " University Racial/Ethnic Diversity " and I mentioned that there was a university more racially diverse. Instead of improving, you play the race game. I'm black btw.

(09-13-2021 01:55 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

'Hundreds' of years? America is 245 years old and slavery ended 155 years ago. I know people don't like history anymore, but...............

"Racial diversity" is and never has been the issue. If you want to discount the DNA and history of America and lump all minorities in the same category as black minorities then that's you.

A school with 50% Asian students won't be viewed the same as a school with 50% black. One will have a higher chance of being labeled as a thug university and I'm sure if you had to bet your hard earned money, you'd choose the proper school to bet on.

Also, why people feel the need to incorporate all minority groups when discussing black minorities is mind boggling. A school with high International population has no bearing on how America view said school compared to a school of another demographic.

I took the time to highlight the population in question which shows how Memphis is so unique. If you can't comprehend and make the correlation to America's history and current struggles, then that's on you. Feel free to start another thread lumping all minorities in one bucket. This thread was pretty clear on which group was being discussed.

Thanks,

Management.

Why has this not been moved to the smack board...

While the topic is "Tiger Related"

The purpose of the thread is to antagonize.

(09-13-2021 02:04 PM)TigerShark Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:55 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

'Hundreds' of years? America is 245 years old and slavery ended 155 years ago. I know people don't like history anymore, but...............

Shhh....math and logic is frowned upon in these discussions.

(09-13-2021 02:23 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  "Racial diversity" is and never has been the issue. If you want to discount the DNA and history of America and lump all minorities in the same category as black minorities then that's you.

A school with 50% Asian students won't be viewed the same as a school with 50% black. One will have a higher chance of being labeled as a thug university and I'm sure if you had to bet your hard earned money, you'd choose the proper school to bet on.

Also, why people feel the need to incorporate all minority groups when discussing black minorities is mind boggling. A school with high International population has no bearing on how America view said school compared to a school of another demographic.

I took the time to highlight the population in question which shows how Memphis is so unique. If you can't comprehend and make the correlation to America's history and current struggles, then that's on you. Feel free to start another thread lumping all minorities in one bucket. This thread was pretty clear on which group was being discussed.

Thanks,

Management.

"Racial diversity is and never has been the issue."

You are misinformed. Go research about the "Brown v. Board of Education" and other scientific research about the importance of racial diversity.

(09-03-2021 09:56 AM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  This thread (The reputation of a city) deals with one thing and one thing only even if people don't even realize it.

The only way Memphis will be invited to the table will be via affirmative action because its obvious improving in all other metrics don't matter.....

Cal left because he wanted to be accepted and being at an "urban" school he knew he'd never be accepted as an equal no matter his accomplishments or how many titles he could've won here...

what message are you trying to send?

(09-13-2021 02:23 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  This thread was pretty clear on which group was being discussed.

Thanks,

Management.

Then rename your thread or start a new one titled, "Black Undergrads and impact of Conf Alignments."

(09-03-2021 10:00 AM)former guest Wrote:  From that data I could also ascertain that the University of Memphis needs to get busy improving the Hispanic enrollment if we want to be included.

That's true that the Latino populations needs more students represented in all higher education. I helped establish a scholarship program a few years back funded by a Nashville DACA students from SCS. Retention rate was among the highest of any group.

If you know any Latino students needing assistance refer them to Latino Memphis at Latinomemphis.org. Tell them to ask for Calvo Mauricio.

(09-13-2021 03:04 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 02:04 PM)TigerShark Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:55 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

'Hundreds' of years? America is 245 years old and slavery ended 155 years ago. I know people don't like history anymore, but...............

Shhh....math and logic is frowned upon in these discussions.

Then you interpret and tell us what that little fact is supposed mean. Why is it relevant in a diversity discussion.

(09-13-2021 02:04 PM)TigerShark Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:55 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

'Hundreds' of years? America is 245 years old and slavery ended 155 years ago. I know people don't like history anymore, but...............

Jesus Christ if you were any more dense, you would be a black hole.

(09-15-2012 12:16 AM)hollywoodtigerhound Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 03:04 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 02:04 PM)TigerShark Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:55 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 01:49 PM)legacygt777 Wrote:  If you're only looking at the black population and not looking at other minorities, you're not seeing the big picture in racial diversity. With that said, Houston is the most racially diverse university with the least # of whites in the AAC and they are now in the Big 12.

Which group was enslaved in America for hundreds of years?

Your comment is like saying if you're only looking at the Jewish population and disregarding the other minority groups who engaged with the Nazis.....

'Hundreds' of years? America is 245 years old and slavery ended 155 years ago. I know people don't like history anymore, but...............

Shhh....math and logic is frowned upon in these discussions.

Ummm...Just to stay factual...So when did slaves get to the Americas. You know the continents.

And you know this...

You can argue with him about his baiting...But are you really trying to diminish slavery being a part of this countries history.

(09-03-2021 10:34 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 10:09 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 10:01 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Has nothing to do with race. Everything to do with leadership.

It 100% has to do race and perception

You're both wrong.

It DOES have something to do with race, but it is not 100% about race.

Anyone who thinks it isn't an issue is simply lying to themselves.

This is where I fall. There is a significant contribution of race. It's not overt or conscious. It's the subconscious perception of a bunch of white, affluent decision makers and all the little comments made by their white affluent friends. There are other issues, socioeconomics of the city, market size (an absurd idea, what is this 1972 and there are only 3 channels?).

Based on location of the city, corporate support, and actual size of fanbase and strength of the programs we're the top choice. BYU has a national following because LDS I suppose so maybe they're up there too.

(09-03-2021 09:11 PM)bobby jo Wrote:  The University of Memphis and its fans has met and exceeded all of the weaknesses that in the past was used to explain its exclusion from a power 5 conference.

I would almost venture that any specific reason given by those who argue against our inclusion, that there are multiple schools already P5 who we are ahead of in that given area.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but in mine Memphis has had as much bias levied against it over the years as any of its peers. I could argue it has suffered unfair treatment within the American conference.

We could debate what’s the reasons for the unfairness, as we should. But can you imagine what a gift it is to those who wish to keep us down when some of our own fans accept and regurgitate the latest reasons why our University and sports programs are unworthy to compete against schools who we have outperformed in years past while being at a decided disadvantage.

Agree. We're in an incredibly strong position and it just gets ignored seemingly and people act like we're some community college in Frayser, including posters on here.

Stop with the academics arguments. It doesn't really matter in the real world where you go to college or some rating somewhere that academic administrators care about. It has nothing to do with sports conferences or the TV contracts they get. I could go on a scree about university cost and administration and how universities are about the worst run places in America now but who has time for that.