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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 04:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:54 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:38 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:29 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Fan bashing? Was I incorrect here?

you were rude af. Sometimes it's better to keep such thoughts to yourself.

For what? Did he, or didn’t he say he had info? Wasn’t this discussed on sports radio?

griffin has come on here and explained the events of what went on.
TripleA and some others confirmed that that is the info they had had as well.
Deals fall through in business all the time. College football is big business all the time every day.
Sometimes things that are planned come undone. That's the nature of the beast.
Just trust in your heart that there are people fighting on Memphis' behalf to get us in a bigger/better conference.
Do you really think that what we have seen so far in donations to the university on improvements would have been made if there WASN'T something going on behind the scenes?

Yeah----that's a pair to draw to

some of us are thankful to know what goes on behind the scenes...or has gone on anyway.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 04:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:44 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Could’ve sworn myself and a few others on here said that Texas politics would be hard to overcome and UH had that going for them. Of course, some of our most connected insiders laughed and said no way. “Everyone hates Houston and Fertitta, they’ll never get in”.

So instead of being upset at us being squeezed out by politics, you want to do an "I told you so" and make fun of some Tiger fan (not me) for saying UH won't get in?

I'll never understand that.

I think I understand why you take that stance...

But if you want to be a praised for sharing "insider" info while also shutting down other conversation...There is a downside there.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:57 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:42 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pay wall

But indeed, Memphis has a better football team for a while, better fan numbers, more dedication, and a helluva lot more, and even this recent run of Houston basketball is not likely to last

I got it by quickly pressing Ctrl A and Control C....highlight then quickly copy/paste into a text pad.
The article said that the Big 12 was all set to invite 3 teams...and then the Houston billionaire intervened on their behalf to get Houston included.

Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Triple A… you should understand people are upset that we are once again left behind. When you heard about we were in 11 years ago by the administration and shared that info it did indeed turn out that administrator was wrong. It was nothing you did but fans have the right to be upset. I said then it wasn’t happening which was true. In 03 we all heard the same thing it’s not over, in 10 we heard the same thing, the administration came out with the same thing they did yesterday. Yes there are some morons on here just like all message boards (Ike for one aka Tigercane). You hopefully should understand why people are upset. Based on your last post with closing with the “I’m out of here” sounds like you are as well. But all we can do once again is do what the letter said and continue to support the Tigers no matter who we play even if it’s going to be Coastal Carolina, UAB or Marshall again.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:57 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:42 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pay wall

But indeed, Memphis has a better football team for a while, better fan numbers, more dedication, and a helluva lot more, and even this recent run of Houston basketball is not likely to last

I got it by quickly pressing Ctrl A and Control C....highlight then quickly copy/paste into a text pad.
The article said that the Big 12 was all set to invite 3 teams...and then the Houston billionaire intervened on their behalf to get Houston included.

Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

No...

If you came on here and said our admin is saying we are in and left it at that. I am sure you would not be being ridiculed now.

But most will come with their "inside" info with the holier than thou attitude shouting down everyone else because they feel they know more...That is where the issue occurs.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 03:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  And guess whose spot they likely took?


Probably SMU
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:57 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:42 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Pay wall

But indeed, Memphis has a better football team for a while, better fan numbers, more dedication, and a helluva lot more, and even this recent run of Houston basketball is not likely to last

I got it by quickly pressing Ctrl A and Control C....highlight then quickly copy/paste into a text pad.
The article said that the Big 12 was all set to invite 3 teams...and then the Houston billionaire intervened on their behalf to get Houston included.

Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Pearls before swine. I wouldn't tell these goofs anything.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 05:24 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:57 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  I got it by quickly pressing Ctrl A and Control C....highlight then quickly copy/paste into a text pad.
The article said that the Big 12 was all set to invite 3 teams...and then the Houston billionaire intervened on their behalf to get Houston included.

Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Triple A… you should understand people are upset that we are once again left behind. When you heard about we were in 11 years ago by the administration and shared that info it did indeed turn out that administrator was wrong. It was nothing you did but fans have the right to be upset. I said then it wasn’t happening which was true. In 03 we all heard the same thing it’s not over, in 10 we heard the same thing, the administration came out with the same thing they did yesterday. Yes there are some morons on here just like all message boards (Ike for one aka Tigercane). You hopefully should understand why people are upset. Based on your last post with closing with the “I’m out of here” sounds like you are as well. But all we can do once again is do what the letter said and continue to support the Tigers no matter who we play even if it’s going to be Coastal Carolina, UAB or Marshall again.

It's not the first time he has said that-----I would guess that makes him wrong again
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 05:12 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:54 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:43 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:38 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  you were rude af. Sometimes it's better to keep such thoughts to yourself.

For what? Did he, or didn’t he say he had info? Wasn’t this discussed on sports radio?

griffin has come on here and explained the events of what went on.
TripleA and some others confirmed that that is the info they had had as well.
Deals fall through in business all the time. College football is big business all the time every day.
Sometimes things that are planned come undone. That's the nature of the beast.
Just trust in your heart that there are people fighting on Memphis' behalf to get us in a bigger/better conference.
Do you really think that what we have seen so far in donations to the university on improvements would have been made if there WASN'T something going on behind the scenes?

Yeah----that's a pair to draw to

some of us are thankful to know what goes on behind the scenes...or has gone on anyway.

From a guy that's wrong every time
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:24 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Triple A… you should understand people are upset that we are once again left behind. When you heard about we were in 11 years ago by the administration and shared that info it did indeed turn out that administrator was wrong. It was nothing you did but fans have the right to be upset. I said then it wasn’t happening which was true. In 03 we all heard the same thing it’s not over, in 10 we heard the same thing, the administration came out with the same thing they did yesterday. Yes there are some morons on here just like all message boards (Ike for one aka Tigercane). You hopefully should understand why people are upset. Based on your last post with closing with the “I’m out of here” sounds like you are as well. But all we can do once again is do what the letter said and continue to support the Tigers no matter who we play even if it’s going to be Coastal Carolina, UAB or Marshall again.

It's not the first time he has said that-----I would guess that makes him wrong again

Oh I know it wasn’t the only time he said it. I said all those times back then it wasn’t happening. He never said anything about it this time. I was stating the fact to him to understand why fans should be upset. He appears to be upset as well.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 04:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:44 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Could’ve sworn myself and a few others on here said that Texas politics would be hard to overcome and UH had that going for them. Of course, some of our most connected insiders laughed and said no way. “Everyone hates Houston and Fertitta, they’ll never get in”.

So instead of being upset at us being squeezed out by politics, you want to do an "I told you so" and make fun of some Tiger fan (not me) for saying UH won't get in?

I'll never understand that.

Why would I be upset when I said I felt sure that was exactly what was gonna happen? Life aint fair. Shhht happens. Texas has their politicians and we have ????? Strickland Lee Harris and Cohen? Lol
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
They got it done. If Fed Ex stepped in last minute and got us in we would be happy. Good luck to UH.
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 03:57 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  I got it by quickly pressing Ctrl A and Control C....highlight then quickly copy/paste into a text pad.
The article said that the Big 12 was all set to invite 3 teams...and then the Houston billionaire intervened on their behalf to get Houston included.

Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Pearls before swine. I wouldn't tell these goofs anything.

This back biting on this site has become such that most posters in the know rarely post here anymore. If TripleA leaves, well, he knows more about whats going on than 95 percent of the fans here.
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(09-11-2021 03:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  And guess whose spot they likely took?


Nobody's place, because the article says they were only going to add 3 schools. Not Memphis.
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(09-11-2021 05:36 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:24 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Triple A… you should understand people are upset that we are once again left behind. When you heard about we were in 11 years ago by the administration and shared that info it did indeed turn out that administrator was wrong. It was nothing you did but fans have the right to be upset. I said then it wasn’t happening which was true. In 03 we all heard the same thing it’s not over, in 10 we heard the same thing, the administration came out with the same thing they did yesterday. Yes there are some morons on here just like all message boards (Ike for one aka Tigercane). You hopefully should understand why people are upset. Based on your last post with closing with the “I’m out of here” sounds like you are as well. But all we can do once again is do what the letter said and continue to support the Tigers no matter who we play even if it’s going to be Coastal Carolina, UAB or Marshall again.

It's not the first time he has said that-----I would guess that makes him wrong again

Oh I know it wasn’t the only time he said it. I said all those times back then it wasn’t happening. He never said anything about it this time. I was stating the fact to him to understand why fans should be upset. He appears to be upset as well.

...plus he has said --I am out of here ---I am done here etc etc
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(09-11-2021 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Pearls before swine. I wouldn't tell these goofs anything.

This back biting on this site has become such that most posters in the know rarely post here anymore. If TripleA leaves, well, he knows more about whats going on than 95 percent of the fans here.

If that guy knows more than 95% on here ----then the rest of us don't know SHIP
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(09-11-2021 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:16 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, there is no way they were inviting 3 schools. Does that make any sense, going from 8 to 11? I'm pretty sure it was us. That might also explain why they so quickly started talking about going to 6 instead.

You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Pearls before swine. I wouldn't tell these goofs anything.

This back biting on this site has become such that most posters in the know rarely post here anymore. If TripleA leaves, well, he knows more about whats going on than 95 percent of the fans here.

It's not the first time he has implied he was leaving----he is never even right about that
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(09-11-2021 05:54 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:36 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:24 PM)smytiger Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Triple A… you should understand people are upset that we are once again left behind. When you heard about we were in 11 years ago by the administration and shared that info it did indeed turn out that administrator was wrong. It was nothing you did but fans have the right to be upset. I said then it wasn’t happening which was true. In 03 we all heard the same thing it’s not over, in 10 we heard the same thing, the administration came out with the same thing they did yesterday. Yes there are some morons on here just like all message boards (Ike for one aka Tigercane). You hopefully should understand why people are upset. Based on your last post with closing with the “I’m out of here” sounds like you are as well. But all we can do once again is do what the letter said and continue to support the Tigers no matter who we play even if it’s going to be Coastal Carolina, UAB or Marshall again.

It's not the first time he has said that-----I would guess that makes him wrong again

Oh I know it wasn’t the only time he said it. I said all those times back then it wasn’t happening. He never said anything about it this time. I was stating the fact to him to understand why fans should be upset. He appears to be upset as well.

...plus he has said --I am out of here ---I am done here etc etc

I have always liked Triple A , even when things did not fall our way. Who wouldn't want the best for the Tigers? We are all fans, things don't always pan out. Triple A is huge Tiger Fan. I guess its normal to want to have someone to point at when things just don't work out.
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It is 4 bozos. The one bozo who still thinks that UConn, Rice, Colorado State, and Tulane were ahead of us, now thinks that they were taking 3 teams. The other bozo that doesn't know how to copy and paste now has something to boast to his buddy about.

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Everyone else has been cool. It's on me for making fun of them non-stop for 6 years. Nobody has ever cared about anything any of them says. No reason to start now.
09-11-2021 06:49 PM
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RE: Houston Chronicle: UH gets in at last minute thru political arm twisting
(09-11-2021 05:58 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:50 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 05:30 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(09-11-2021 04:24 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  You were also “pretty sure” that we were definitely getting into a power conference years ago. Claimed to have inside info and it turned out to be false…. So there’s that…

Here we go fan bashing again. We were told we were in. That came from our admin. And I'm certainly not the only one who has said that.

And what does that have to do with now?

This is why nobody comes on here and tries to share anything legit, b/c too many people take pleasure in bashing anyone who might be wrong, rather than discussing the merits of the info.

I'm out. Not worth it. I don't need to defend myself.

Pearls before swine. I wouldn't tell these goofs anything.

This back biting on this site has become such that most posters in the know rarely post here anymore. If TripleA leaves, well, he knows more about whats going on than 95 percent of the fans here.

It's not the first time he has implied he was leaving----he is never even right about that

I took what he said as “I’m out of this conversation.” Are you going to bring this up every time he posts now? People share what they are hearing. If what they are hearing doesn’t materialize, you want to hold them personally accountable. Why?
09-11-2021 07:18 PM
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