Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

If you had to weight them, how would you do so? 80% TV market, 10% budget, 10% performance?

60% TV market, 20% budget, 20% performance?

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

I don't think there is likely to be a lot of difference among the top 15 or so candidates east of I-35.

(09-10-2021 04:38 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

If you had to weight them, how would you do so? 80% TV market, 10% budget, 10% performance?

60% TV market, 20% budget, 20% performance?

Totally guessing, but 40%/40%/20% maybe? Houston was on a pretty low performance streak recently, but they have the market and one of the biggest budgets in the conference. They were picked despite the losing streak.

That's what would give a team like Colorado State the edge over one like Coastal Carolina. Big city, big budget.

Performance does matter when you've been good long enough to make up for your not so big market, like Boise. Boise is on its own little island in all this, hence their AAC-esq media payout from the MWC.

(09-10-2021 04:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:38 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

If you had to weight them, how would you do so? 80% TV market, 10% budget, 10% performance?

60% TV market, 20% budget, 20% performance?

Totally guessing, but 40%/40%/20% maybe? Houston was on a pretty low performance streak recently, but they have the market and one of the biggest budgets in the conference. They were picked despite the losing streak.

That's what would give a team like Colorado State the edge over one like Coastal Carolina. Big city, big budget.

That's why I believe Rice and UAB are fits. Rice just needs to step it up on the football field. UTSA, Georgia State, and ODU also are 3 that could be there. Just need to string a few good seasons together in a row.

(09-10-2021 04:55 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:38 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

If you had to weight them, how would you do so? 80% TV market, 10% budget, 10% performance?

60% TV market, 20% budget, 20% performance?

Totally guessing, but 40%/40%/20% maybe? Houston was on a pretty low performance streak recently, but they have the market and one of the biggest budgets in the conference. They were picked despite the losing streak.

That's what would give a team like Colorado State the edge over one like Coastal Carolina. Big city, big budget.

That's why I believe Rice and UAB are fits. Rice just needs to step it up on the football field. UTSA, Georgia State, and ODU also are 3 that could be there. Just need to string a few good seasons together in a row.

ODU has the budget for it, but the market is weird. Worked in the tidewater area for a while. Barely anyone is actually from there, and a good chunk of the population is the transient Navy crowd. Travelled back a couple of years ago when they hosted ECU. They had a pretty good turnout in a not great season, which was promising.

UAB ticks a lot of boxes as one of the better non-MWC options, but they aren't far removed from shutting down their program a few years ago.

UTSA and Georgia State are straight market picks. Average G5 budgets that would be at the bottom of the AAC, but the markets are hard to ignore, even if they only draw 0.05% of them.

Again, all of these would fall behind about 4 MWC programs that would have to decline, in writing, first.

(09-10-2021 05:03 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:55 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:38 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

If you had to weight them, how would you do so? 80% TV market, 10% budget, 10% performance?

60% TV market, 20% budget, 20% performance?

Totally guessing, but 40%/40%/20% maybe? Houston was on a pretty low performance streak recently, but they have the market and one of the biggest budgets in the conference. They were picked despite the losing streak.

That's what would give a team like Colorado State the edge over one like Coastal Carolina. Big city, big budget.

That's why I believe Rice and UAB are fits. Rice just needs to step it up on the football field. UTSA, Georgia State, and ODU also are 3 that could be there. Just need to string a few good seasons together in a row.

ODU has the budget for it, but the market is weird. Worked in the tidewater area for a while. Barely anyone is actually from there, and a good chunk of the population is the transient Navy crowd. Travelled back a couple of years ago when they hosted ECU. They had a pretty good turnout in a not great season, which was promising.

UAB ticks a lot of boxes as one of the better non-MWC options, but they aren't far removed from shutting down their program a few years ago.

UTSA and Georgia State are straight market picks. Average G5 budgets that would be at the bottom of the AAC, but the markets are hard to ignore, even if they only draw 0.05% of them.

Again, all of these would fall behind about 4 MWC programs that would have to decline, in writing, first.

San Antonio and Atlanta are great cities though. The AAC is about to make decisions that will cause major changes to the college football landscape and who knows what direction they will go.

(09-10-2021 04:55 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:38 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:21 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 04:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  Athletic revenue/budget, wins-losses history in revenue sports, TV market, airports/hotels etc.,...will potential TV revenue/eyeballs/market still be the most important factor when determining who gets invites?

I'm sure ESPN has to bless any adds, so I'd say yes. I don't think it will be a "add a team that has zero potential just because they are in a market" (sorry Rutgers) decision, but potential tv revenue (which includes both market/budget/performance" will likely be taken into consideration.

If you had to weight them, how would you do so? 80% TV market, 10% budget, 10% performance?

60% TV market, 20% budget, 20% performance?

Totally guessing, but 40%/40%/20% maybe? Houston was on a pretty low performance streak recently, but they have the market and one of the biggest budgets in the conference. They were picked despite the losing streak.

That's what would give a team like Colorado State the edge over one like Coastal Carolina. Big city, big budget.

That's why I believe Rice and UAB are fits. Rice just needs to step it up on the football field. UTSA, Georgia State, and ODU also are 3 that could be there. Just need to string a few good seasons together in a row.

I think this might be plan B if Plan A (inviting from the Mountain West) does not pan out. Throw Buffalo in the mix, too.