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RE: Conference Realignment
(09-10-2021 02:52 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I like Pete Thamel's idea of the G5 starting to look to make more "sense" instead of "cents" seeing as how most all of the media rights contracts will be within a couple hundred thousand dollars now. No sense in having a conference that goes from Pennsylvania to Texas or southern Florida to damn near New Mexico if there is no monetary reason to do so...realign with more care to geography, potential rivalries, and regional feel. No way it'll happen, but it makes far more sense than just having dominoes continue to fall on down the line.

Mountain West

Hawaii
Fresno State
Nevada
UNLV
San Diego State
San Jose State
Utah State

Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
New Mexico
Wyoming
UTEP
New Mexico State

Conference USA

Tulsa
SMU
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Rice
Memphis

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
Louisiana-Monroe
Tulane
Southern Miss
Troy

Sun Belt Conference

FAU
FIU
USF
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
UAB

Coastal Carolina
Charlotte
East Carolina
Appalachian State
Marshall
Old Dominion
Liberty

MAC

Akron
Kent State
Temple
UConn
UMass
Buffalo
Ohio
Miami (Ohio)

Bowling Green
Eastern Michigan
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Western Kentucky
Northern Illinois
Ball State

With Navy and Army as Independents

Thoughtful presentation! The premise being that the AAC is dead. Probably true.

Unfortunately the MAC gets three total duds in UCONN, UMASS, and the almost extinct Owls. With two of them being reboots.

Go Rockets!
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RE: Conference Realignment
Unless I missed it, there is not one thing mentioned about the MAC let alone The University of Toledo.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co...905154001/
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RE: Conference Realignment
(09-29-2021 05:27 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Unless I missed it, there is not one thing mentioned about the MAC let alone The University of Toledo.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co...905154001/

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RE: Conference Realignment
So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand. Leaving the MAC would add cost to our sports programs. Were expansion would not add too much more than we are seeing now

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...embership/
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(10-19-2021 10:54 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand. Leaving the MAC would add cost to our sports programs. Were expansion would not add too much more than we are seeing now

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...embership/

Would think WKU is the only one out there that would make sense geographically/institutionally, and even that is a reach. I thought they may be interested in Temple/UConn or something prior to the AAC creating this weird messed up conference they have now.
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RE: Conference Realignment
(10-20-2021 10:11 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 10:54 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand. Leaving the MAC would add cost to our sports programs. Were expansion would not add too much more than we are seeing now

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...embership/

Would think WKU is the only one out there that would make sense geographically/institutionally, and even that is a reach. I thought they may be interested in Temple/UConn or something prior to the AAC creating this weird messed up conference they have now.

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RE: Conference Realignment
CUSA Could add EKU....James Madison....Jacksonville State?

Whats left currently
Marshall
W. Kentucky
Middle Tenn.
FIU
Old Dominion
So. Miss
Louisiana Tech
UTEP
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(10-19-2021 10:54 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand.

Agreed. The MAC's historical memberships of each institution is unlike any other G5 league, maybe the MWC can compare. But it would be nice to add a few more teams as expansion has a lot of potential to build upon the league's brand. Plus wouldn't mind a few new road trips every year as a fan.
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(10-20-2021 12:36 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  CUSA Could add EKU....James Madison....Jacksonville State?

Whats left currently
Marshall
W. Kentucky
Middle Tenn.
FIU
Old Dominion
So. Miss
Louisiana Tech
UTEP

Definitely should add Sam Houston State.
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(10-20-2021 01:39 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 10:54 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand.

Agreed. The MAC's historical memberships of each institution is unlike any other G5 league, maybe the MWC can compare. But it would be nice to add a few more teams as expansion has a lot of potential to build upon the league's brand. Plus wouldn't mind a few new road trips every year as a fan.

Harrisonburg, Va. ( JMU ) would be a nice fall trip through the Shenandoah area ...
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Quote:So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand. Leaving the MAC would add cost to our sports programs.

Why in the world would you want to leave the MAC when the CUSA is falling apart? :)

CUSA has a bad TV contract and could only be worse after all this. The only way I could see wanting to join CUSA is that 6 teams leave and seeing an opening for a more winnable conference now since they'll only be able to grab (yet more) FCS teams. However, even so, AAC didn't grab all the Best ones from CUSA, although UAB has been good recently & UTSA is having an undefeated year so far.

All in all -- there'd be no incentive to leave the MAC to CUSA -- even BEFORE this debacle took place for them. You'd have to go more than 10 years ago before it'd begin to be something to desire, and desire more and more as you wind the clock back.
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(10-20-2021 02:01 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:So do we try for CUSA, or does the MAC expand and grab a couple teams from CUSA? Personally I would rather stand pat and get the MAC to expand. Leaving the MAC would add cost to our sports programs.

Why in the world would you want to leave the MAC when the CUSA is falling apart? :)

CUSA has a bad TV contract and could only be worse after all this. The only way I could see wanting to join CUSA is that 6 teams leave and seeing an opening for a more winnable conference now since they'll only be able to grab (yet more) FCS teams. However, even so, AAC didn't grab all the Best ones from CUSA, although UAB has been good recently & UTSA is having an undefeated year so far.

All in all -- there'd be no incentive to leave the MAC to CUSA -- even BEFORE this debacle took place for them. You'd have to go more than 10 years ago before it'd begin to be something to desire, and desire more and more as you wind the clock back.

That’s why it makes mor sense to expand. Would it be too much to add four teams? Then the SBC could take the other four teams. No more cusa
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RE: Conference Realignment
Stay tune, can't wait when all this shakes out.
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RE: Conference Realignment
Sounds like the Sun Belt and CUSA are going to be in a bidding war for...James Madison?





I personally don't know why anyone would join up with CUSA now. To me, Sun Belt goes on a full court press to get Marshall, JMU, Southern Miss, and ODU to create a Tidewater and Gulf Coast divisional alignment, and the CUSA is cooked.

MTSU, WKU, FIU, LTU, and UTEP would be all that's left...if that were the case, my guess is they couldn't get enough FCS schools to foot the bill to move up, meaning UTEP maybe gets a bone from MWC to get into TX and MAYBE the MAC sees if WKU and MTSU would do anything for them financially (doubtful).
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What would you all think if the MAC added MTSU and WKU? To me it doesn't make sense institutionally, geographically, and likely financially...but I figured I'd ask since it seems to be making the rounds now that the CUSA may go supernova in short order.
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RE: Conference Realignment
(09-16-2021 06:12 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  
(09-10-2021 02:52 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I like Pete Thamel's idea of the G5 starting to look to make more "sense" instead of "cents" seeing as how most all of the media rights contracts will be within a couple hundred thousand dollars now. No sense in having a conference that goes from Pennsylvania to Texas or southern Florida to damn near New Mexico if there is no monetary reason to do so...realign with more care to geography, potential rivalries, and regional feel. No way it'll happen, but it makes far more sense than just having dominoes continue to fall on down the line.

Mountain West

Hawaii
Fresno State
Nevada
UNLV
San Diego State
San Jose State
Utah State

Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
New Mexico
Wyoming
UTEP
New Mexico State

Conference USA

Tulsa
SMU
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Rice
Memphis

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
Louisiana-Monroe
Tulane
Southern Miss
Troy

Sun Belt Conference

FAU
FIU
USF
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
UAB

Coastal Carolina
Charlotte
East Carolina
Appalachian State
Marshall
Old Dominion
Liberty

MAC

Akron
Kent State
Temple
UConn
UMass
Buffalo
Ohio
Miami (Ohio)

Bowling Green
Eastern Michigan
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Western Kentucky
Northern Illinois
Ball State

With Navy and Army as Independents

Thoughtful presentation! The premise being that the AAC is dead. Probably true.

Unfortunately the MAC gets three total duds in UCONN, UMASS, and the almost extinct Owls. With two of them being reboots.

Go Rockets!
Adding 4 teams teams that have won national championships or been in the final 4 is in basketball is not all bad.
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There is still another possibility. It’s been mentioned before that several teams from several conferences could start a completely new conference. That however would be a long shot from happening. But it could be the best opportunity for many teams.
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If that were to happen, football should be the driving force.
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RE: Conference Realignment
Color me jaded but what about the fairly recent history of the MAC suggests the conference will do ANYTHING in regards to expansion?

This conference isn't going to do squat other than ride it out as about the 9th most "important" conference in FBS or maybe drop down to FCS level at some point.

I mean, I'm along for the ride as a Toledo fan... it just is what it is.
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Dennis Dodd CBS reporting this afternoon that Marshall, S Miss, James Madison, Old Dominion will receive offers
from the Sunbelt as early as next week.
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