Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? Thus saving the incoming schools from exit fees. The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

No need right now. Others might come to the forefront elsewhere.

That, and the obvious: 16 team leagues tend to collapse of its own weight and fractures within the membership.

(09-10-2021 10:57 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

YES!!!!!!!

Nah. Regardless of indications the Big 12 “could” further expand, I think they’re done unless they lose more members.

More is less in this scenario.

They already did. That's why they expanded by 4 instead of just 2.

I think UC, UCF, and UH were the kill shot. They could snag Memphis and USF I guess if they really wanted to bury the AAC for good. The rest of the members probably disperse out.

I’ve seen more media mentioning 14 vs. 16. At any rate, I don’t think any more adds are made until UT/OU exit terms get ironed out. Though a couple could be announced before then.

(09-10-2021 10:57 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? Thus saving the incoming schools from exit fees. The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

Even in this never happening scenario the AAC still wouldn't disband. The 3 teams that just announced they are leaving no longer have voting rights. The AAC schools left in this scenario have no home to go to that would even be worth as much as the buyout fees they'd be getting. You'd probably be talking about close to 100 million in exit fees all told from all those schools leaving. Same as the Big East did a decade ago they'd cash those checks, add schools, and live but obviously not be any good anymore.

(09-10-2021 11:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 10:57 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? Thus saving the incoming schools from exit fees. The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

Even in this never happening scenario the AAC still wouldn't disband. The 3 teams that just announced they are leaving no longer have voting rights. The AAC schools left in this scenario have no home to go to that would even be worth as much as the buyout fees they'd be getting. You'd probably be talking about close to 100 million in exit fees all told from all those schools leaving. Same as the Big East did a decade ago they'd cash those checks, add schools, and live but obviously not be any good anymore.

I think the precedent has been set... $17m a piece for the quicker exit. So half of your estimation.

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The AAC is already on life support so to speak, with the losses of UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston. If the rumors are true that the BigXII will add two more schools when UT/OU leave and those schools are Memphis and USF, then that's your kill shot. IMO there is no reason to do it now though, those schools will still be available in 2 years when the spots open up.

(09-10-2021 11:30 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 11:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 10:57 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? Thus saving the incoming schools from exit fees. The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

Even in this never happening scenario the AAC still wouldn't disband. The 3 teams that just announced they are leaving no longer have voting rights. The AAC schools left in this scenario have no home to go to that would even be worth as much as the buyout fees they'd be getting. You'd probably be talking about close to 100 million in exit fees all told from all those schools leaving. Same as the Big East did a decade ago they'd cash those checks, add schools, and live but obviously not be any good anymore.

I think the precedent has been set... $17m a piece for the quicker exit. So half of your estimation.

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I was saying in this weird scenario where 7 teams left the AAC. That would be over 100 million in exit fees. You are correct though I suspect the final number the AAC gets from the 3 leaving will be around 50 million or so.

I think you go for it. But I'd look at 15 only:

SouthWest: SMU, TCU, TTech, Houston, Baylor
Big 5: BYU, OSU, KSU, KU, ISU
East: WVU, UC, Memphis, UCF, USF

With Home and Home partners:

1. WVU/UC, UCF/USF
2. OSU/ISU, KSU/KU
3. TTech/TCU, Baylor/Houston

SMU, Memphis, BYU (plays annual round robin). 5+1+1 conference schedule.

Top 3 division winners and 1 WC playoff in scheduled in either of the two weeks prior to CCG weekend.

This gives you 7 guaranteed conference games. 5 OOC games can be scheduled. Completely unique P5 setup as well.

(09-10-2021 10:57 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? Thus saving the incoming schools from exit fees. The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

Definitely don't need Tulane, and TCU would still likely veto SMU. So if they're foolishly expanding to 16 as a non-power conference, they'd add Boise and, I'd guess, Navy as a FB-only.

East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, South Florida, West Virginia
North: Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State
South: Houston, Memphis, Navy*, TCU
West: Baylor, Boise State, BYU, Texas Tech

Would be smart to add Wichita State to balance out Navy, but with 2 Kansas schools already in the conference, not gonna happen.

(09-10-2021 10:57 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Invite SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and USF ?

Big 16 with 4 pods

Ok state, Kansas, K state, Iowa State,

Cincy, WVU, USF, UCF

SMU, TCU, Baylor, BYU

Texas Tech, Houston, Tulane, Memphis

That would leave the AAC with 4 and most likely disband ? Thus saving the incoming schools from exit fees. The Big 16 would be set as the best of the rest and be protected from any future losses of schools. It might also allow the sun belt and CUSA to work out a plan

YES, please. Just Do It!!!

(09-10-2021 11:36 AM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  The AAC is already on life support so to speak, with the losses of UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston. If the rumors are true that the BigXII will add two more schools when UT/OU leave and those schools are Memphis and USF, then that's your kill shot. IMO there is no reason to do it now though, those schools will still be available in 2 years when the spots open up.

Meh. The Big East/AAC had three "original" football teams left when the dust settled. Finding quality backfill is the key.

No

If the best college football program that got left out of the Power 5 is Memphis (Boise was never joining), then nobody got left out.