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Nice letter. Kind of like the one you get from the ex-girlfriend or ex-wife telling you that you just weren’t quiet good enough for her to hang on, but eventually you’ll find someone to take you and love you. Oh sigh. I’ve been a Tiger fan for a lot of years, since they played at the old, old Crump Stadium. Being a “Big Time” program has always been just out of reach for Memphis.

(09-10-2021 10:00 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's a call to not screw the pooch in the next 2 years with regard to filling the stands at the games and continuing to financially support the athletic department while we are in a holding pattern for "Big12 expansion part deux". At this point, the smoke says Memphis and Boise. That list could change if our support falls off a cliff.

Correct.

I swear some people would rather have the chance to moan about how doomed we are than breathe oxygen

(09-10-2021 09:43 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike didn't see a reference to upgrading the OOC SCHEDULE

Ike hasn't seen his brain cells since 2nd grade

(09-10-2021 10:01 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Key item is we are expected to reach R1 status in 2021. This will open up a lot more doors.

its already 2021

"Our understanding is that this latest round of expansion for the Big 12 essentially came down to the size of the institutions and the markets in which they reside."

This confirms what many of us have speculated. The university can't control being in the #51 TV market when the other schools selected are all #8 through #37. The university can't control that it's in a metro area with virtually zero net population growth and is ranked as one of the poorest among the top 50 metros. It can control its own size to some extent, but going all-out to grow the enrollment risks watering down the academic standing. And being in a low-growth region also makes it challenging to increase enrollment.

So we wait for the next opportunity, and in the meantime do what is necessary to maintain the momentum we already have. BTW the e-mail seems very confident about getting R1 status.

I want to hear the coaches talk about our upcoming wins over Whoston, UCF, and Cindy. The whole American needs to kick there asses all the way to Idaho.

(09-10-2021 10:00 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's a call to not screw the pooch in the next 2 years with regard to filling the stands at the games and continuing to financially support the athletic department while we are in a holding pattern for "Big12 expansion part deux". At this point, the smoke says Memphis and Boise. That list could change if our support falls off a cliff.

This right here.

(09-10-2021 10:00 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  It's a call to not screw the pooch in the next 2 years with regard to filling the stands at the games and continuing to financially support the athletic department while we are in a holding pattern for "Big12 expansion part deux". At this point, the smoke says Memphis and Boise. That list could change if our support falls off a cliff.

I think that's exactly what they said without being too bold to say it.

(09-10-2021 11:58 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 09:43 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike didn't see a reference to upgrading the OOC SCHEDULE

Ike hasn't seen his brain cells since 2nd grade

You say that as if two years is a long time.

We could find ourselves in a position where we are almost guaranteed to be the G5 representative to the New Years Bowl and future playoffs.

(09-10-2021 12:10 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  "Our understanding is that this latest round of expansion for the Big 12 essentially came down to the size of the institutions and the markets in which they reside."

This confirms what many of us have speculated. The university can't control being in the #51 TV market when the other schools selected are all #8 through #37. The university can't control that it's in a metro area with virtually zero net population growth and is ranked as one of the poorest among the top 50 metros. It can control its own size to some extent, but going all-out to grow the enrollment risks watering down the academic standing. And being in a low-growth region also makes it challenging to increase enrollment.

So we wait for the next opportunity, and in the meantime do what is necessary to maintain the momentum we already have. BTW the e-mail seems very confident about getting R1 status.

Stop making this argument, it’s silly.

What’s the TV market in South Bend Indiana? Or Oxford MS? Or (insert college town here)

TV markets are a really small part of the equation.

What matters is:

* Eyeballs to watch the team (ie fans of the team guaranteed to tune in)
* Quality of program (or potential thereof) to make the casual fan tune in to matchup A vs matchup B - TV networks competing against one another for eyeballs and, by the extension, dollars.

TV markets only matter when you have a large fanbase of a school within that (large) market.

(09-10-2021 02:51 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 12:10 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  "Our understanding is that this latest round of expansion for the Big 12 essentially came down to the size of the institutions and the markets in which they reside."

This confirms what many of us have speculated. The university can't control being in the #51 TV market when the other schools selected are all #8 through #37. The university can't control that it's in a metro area with virtually zero net population growth and is ranked as one of the poorest among the top 50 metros. It can control its own size to some extent, but going all-out to grow the enrollment risks watering down the academic standing. And being in a low-growth region also makes it challenging to increase enrollment.

So we wait for the next opportunity, and in the meantime do what is necessary to maintain the momentum we already have. BTW the e-mail seems very confident about getting R1 status.

Stop making this argument, it’s silly.

What’s the TV market in South Bend Indiana? Or Oxford MS? Or (insert college town here)

TV markets are a really small part of the equation.

What matters is:

* Eyeballs to watch the team (ie fans of the team guaranteed to tune in)
* Quality of program (or potential thereof) to make the casual fan tune in to matchup A vs matchup B - TV networks competing against one another for eyeballs and, by the extension, dollars.

TV markets only matter when you have a large fanbase of a school within that (large) market.

It also came down to universities that show a high commitment to their programs and facilities. Not programs that talk about minimal improvements for 10 years and still don’t get them done.

I hope they expand soon or others will pass up by again. And they’ll still be talking about the press boxes….

(09-10-2021 03:25 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 02:51 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 12:10 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  "Our understanding is that this latest round of expansion for the Big 12 essentially came down to the size of the institutions and the markets in which they reside."

This confirms what many of us have speculated. The university can't control being in the #51 TV market when the other schools selected are all #8 through #37. The university can't control that it's in a metro area with virtually zero net population growth and is ranked as one of the poorest among the top 50 metros. It can control its own size to some extent, but going all-out to grow the enrollment risks watering down the academic standing. And being in a low-growth region also makes it challenging to increase enrollment.

So we wait for the next opportunity, and in the meantime do what is necessary to maintain the momentum we already have. BTW the e-mail seems very confident about getting R1 status.

Stop making this argument, it’s silly.

What’s the TV market in South Bend Indiana? Or Oxford MS? Or (insert college town here)

TV markets are a really small part of the equation.

What matters is:

* Eyeballs to watch the team (ie fans of the team guaranteed to tune in)
* Quality of program (or potential thereof) to make the casual fan tune in to matchup A vs matchup B - TV networks competing against one another for eyeballs and, by the extension, dollars.

TV markets only matter when you have a large fanbase of a school within that (large) market.

It also came down to universities that show a high commitment to their programs and facilities. Not programs that talk about minimal improvements for 10 years and still don’t get them done.

I hope they expand soon or others will pass up by again. And they’ll still be talking about the press boxes….

Correct - potential to build a fanbase over time. And to do that you need commitment.

But at the end of the day it’s all about eyeballs and dollars.

(09-10-2021 11:58 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 09:43 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike didn't see a reference to upgrading the OOC SCHEDULE

Ike hasn't seen his brain cells since 2nd grade

this weekend

alabama vs mercer
ole miss vs austin peay

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3383...NwxmlyjxB0

(09-10-2021 05:45 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3383...NwxmlyjxB0

He’s right about us being the biggest loser. Our conference got decimated and we’re stuck in it. There are no quality replacements that would accept an invite. Let’s hope the Big 12 moves fast on round 2.

(09-10-2021 11:58 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 09:43 AM)memphisike Wrote:  Ike didn't see a reference to upgrading the OOC SCHEDULE

Ike hasn't seen his brain cells since 2nd grade

I agree but fun to read his post

(09-10-2021 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(09-10-2021 05:45 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote:  https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3383...NwxmlyjxB0

He’s right about us being the biggest loser. Our conference got decimated and we’re stuck in it. There are no quality replacements that would accept an invite. Let’s hope the Big 12 moves fast on round 2.

Yep. Now, the AAC will stay as it is for this season and probably one more. After that, if we don't get 'in' understand that P5 schools will now outnumber G5 for the first time..... That does not bode well for those left behind.