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Data Sheet: January 6th vs. Antifa-BLM
Many in the political and media establishment have cast the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol as one of the darkest episodes in American history, comparing an episode in which one person was slain (a protester shot by police) to 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Civil War, and the British sacking of the capital city in 1814. Seizing on the gravity of a mob trying to interfere with the process of recording Electoral College votes after a presidential election, Democrats impeached Donald Trump over the Jan. 6 breach and put him on trial in the Senate. Democrats have also spearheaded a congressional investigation – one focused on the former president – that will likely stretch into next election season.

Republicans, Trump supporters, and others see a double standard at play in Democrats’ emphasis on Jan. 6. They note that many Democrats cheered nationwide protests and some even put up bail after the May 2020 murder of George Floyd, a black man, by a white police officer -- prolonged unrest that generated far more death and destruction. They argue that groups associated with the summer’s violence, such as Black Lives Matter and Antifa, themselves aim to subvert democracy, and acted accordingly in targeting cops, public offices, and private businesses.

The electorate itself is divided, but doesn’t necessarily view this issue as an either/or choice. Polling shows that a large majority of Americans support the idea of examining the causes of both the 2020 summer riots in America’s cities and the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

It is clear, then, that many Americans see two sides to this story. In keeping with its mission to fill gaps in press coverage, RealClearInvestigations is launching a running compendium of data, with hyperlinked sourcing, comparing the damage done on Jan. 6, and the subsequent treatment of those accused of perpetrating it, with two other recent events: the summer 2020 riots and – in some ways a closer analogy – the all-but-forgotten riot in Washington on Inauguration Day 2017, as protesters challenged Donald Trump’s election and legitimacy much as Jan. 6 rioters challenged Joe Biden's.

RealClearInvestigations has found that:

The summer 2020 riots resulted in some 15 times more injured police officers, 30 times as many arrests, and estimated damages in dollar terms up to 1,300 times more costly than those of the Capitol riot. George Floyd rioters were found to have used more sophisticated and dangerous tactics than did the Capitol rioters, and in some cases weapons of greater lethality.

Authorities have pursued the largely Trump-supporting Capitol rioters with substantially more vigor than suspected wrongdoers in the earlier two cases. Many accused Capitol rioters, unlike accused participants in the other riots, have been held in pretrial detention for months – with one defendant serving more time than the maximum sentence for the charge to which he pleaded guilty. Some allegedly endured solitary confinement and other mistreatment.

With authorities applying lenient prosecutorial standards in many major cities torn by the summer riots, the vast majority of charges last year were dismissed, as were charges in the Inauguration 2017 unrest. Charges have to date been dropped in only a single Capitol riot case.
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(09-10-2021 11:49 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  With authorities applying lenient prosecutorial standards in many major cities torn by the summer riots, the vast majority of charges last year were dismissed, as were charges in the Inauguration 2017 unrest. Charges have to date been dropped in only a single Capitol riot case.
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Technically two cases - oops Asley Babbit's murderer was never charged
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I disagree 100%.

Jan. 6th was a big nothing burger. It was the saddest attempt of a coup that I have ever seen.

To think that anyone ever feared what Trump supporters might do if Trump lost.

What a joke.
09-13-2021 12:31 PM
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The left wants January 6 to be a Reichstag Fire event, in order to justify more suppression of dissent and civil liberties.
09-13-2021 03:29 PM
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(09-13-2021 03:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left wants January 6 to be a Reichstag Fire event, in order to justify more suppression of dissent and civil liberties.

I know when it first happened it was thought of as a big deal because I think most people thought it was the beginning of something much bigger. The first battle in the revolution so to speak.

It turns out that Jan. 6th was the climax of the Trump movement.

It was like much anticipated sex followed by premature ejaculation.
09-14-2021 11:56 AM
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(09-13-2021 03:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left wants January 6 to be a Reichstag Fire event, in order to justify more suppression of dissent and civil liberties.
This.

(09-14-2021 11:56 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I know when it first happened it was thought of as a big deal because I think most people thought it was the beginning of something much bigger. The first battle in the revolution so to speak.
No one that was paying any attention thought that. Those who were not paying attention, along with stupid/ignorant people may have thought that. And certainly the more dishonest elements of American media encouraged that line of thought. But it was never going to go beyond that one day.

Quote:It turns out that Jan. 6th was the climax of the Trump movement.

It was like much anticipated sex followed by premature ejaculation.
I admit it: I laughed at this.

But the climax of the Trump movement actually occurred way back on 09th November 2016, when “It’s Her Turn” conceded the election.
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And not one single weapon was found at the "Insurrection". Seems like if you were planning to take over the government, you would at least bring a sling shot and some balls at least.
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(09-14-2021 12:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 03:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left wants January 6 to be a Reichstag Fire event, in order to justify more suppression of dissent and civil liberties.
This.

(09-14-2021 11:56 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I know when it first happened it was thought of as a big deal because I think most people thought it was the beginning of something much bigger. The first battle in the revolution so to speak.
No one that was paying any attention thought that. Those who were not paying attention, along with stupid/ignorant people may have thought that. And certainly the more dishonest elements of American media encouraged that line of thought. But it was never going to go beyond that one day.

Quote:It turns out that Jan. 6th was the climax of the Trump movement.

It was like much anticipated sex followed by premature ejaculation.
I admit it: I laughed at this.

But the climax of the Trump movement actually occurred way back on 09th November 2016, when “It’s Her Turn” conceded the election.

While I still contend that it wasn't that big of a deal, one cannot deny that the reason for the riots were very different.

One was in essence because a person was killed the other was, in essence to overturn an election.
09-15-2021 12:10 PM
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LOL!
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I wonder how thing are going to go tomorrow. Are they gonna do something this time or more of the same?
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Define "they"
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(09-17-2021 09:13 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I wonder how thing are going to go tomorrow. Are they gonna do something this time or more of the same?

So basically nothing.... 07-coffee307-coffee3
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