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RE: I Cleaned Up Too Much Rep Abuse Last Night! You Are On Notice......
I don’t ever give negative reps. If somebody says something stupid I just called them an ignorant moron. Much better than giving negative reps. And yes I do expect the same treatment in reverse.
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I've given one neg rep point ever.

Gave Marine a neg 1 about 4-5 years ago as a joke, he hit me back and we both had a good chuckle.

Never reported anyone, don't even know how to since I've never looked.
No one on ignore, what's the point of that? Why be on a message board if you're going to ignore others messages? Seems kinda dumb to me. 07-coffee3
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Haha y’all still repping people? I had a guy make a bunch of false claims against me and didn’t care. Sad the people who call people snowflakes are so soft
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RE: I Cleaned Up Too Much Rep Abuse Last Night! You Are On Notice......
I've got no problem with positive reps or negative reps. I'll give out a negative rep if it's warranted... ie, Redwingtom telling UTSAMarine that he was an embarrassment to the uniform. I'm dumbfounded that somebody can continue posting here after a comment like that... Anyway, my personal request is that AUP rule #2 is enforced or clarified. Somebody should have to state their position. There are many One-liners that come off as trolling .

2. You are expected to defend your position.
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If there was some kind of actual penalty for having a well earned negative rep score, I’d care more about people giving points one way or the other. Otherwise, big deal.
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(09-09-2021 09:08 AM)b2b Wrote:  I've got no problem with positive reps or negative reps. I'll give out a negative rep if it's warranted... ie, Redwingtom telling UTSAMarine that he was an embarrassment to the uniform. I'm dumbfounded that somebody can continue posting here after a comment like that... Anyway, my personal request is that AUP rule #2 is enforced or clarified. Somebody should have to state their position. There are many One-liners that come off as trolling .

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(09-08-2021 10:27 PM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Haha y’all still repping people? I had a guy make a bunch of false claims against me and didn’t care. Sad the people who call people snowflakes are so soft

JR stated it was from both sides..
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I don’t believe I’ve ever used the negative rep for anyone. I don’t see the point. Though I’m a conservative I try to see the other side’s point of view and respect their right to have it. Most of the time I can find common ground.

Unfortunately I think we are beginning to see the “if I don’t agree with the opinion it should be removed” element moving onto our forum. The days of polite discourse are over.
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(09-09-2021 04:52 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don’t believe I’ve ever used the negative rep for anyone. I don’t see the point. Though I’m a conservative I try to see the other side’s point of view and respect their right to have it. Most of the time I can find common ground.

Unfortunately I think we are beginning to see the “if I don’t agree with the opinion it should be removed” element moving onto our forum. The days of polite discourse are over.

Every Society which practices muzzling dissent ends up with escalating civil violence, or ends in totalitarianism, which as one who has helped refugees and immigrants from totalitarian regimes I can assure you is a miserable existence, and far worse than any American can imagine no matter how bathed in victimization they believe themselves to be. Only those in the inner circles of power find any privilege or benefit in totalitarianism.

We have some cancel culture mentality filtering into this forum, but most of it consists of the high school mentality of name calling, which IMO, is way too tolerated here, but the board tends to set acceptable behavior and both sides hurl insults like drunken cowboys hurl cow patties.

But the next point of emphasis is board appropriateness. If you hurl insults and love it we have the Wild West Board. Have at it. But from here on out if you hurl an insult without engaging the OP in your remarks you will get dinged!

Most OP's have an issue or issues worthy of opposing viewpoints. Attack the argument and not the poster. A blanket statement of dismissal is not an argument and will be treated as a troll post.

The problem for moderators occurs when decent posters don't report a troll or insult only post, but respond in kind. Now the mod has to ding an otherwise decent poster in order to punish the instigator. Well I guess it's time for taking both out if necessary. Unless of course you simply refuse to engage the flame or troll and report it.

Rep wars are nothing but what happens when people are out of mud and start flinging pooh! It's the red flag that a crackdown is needed.

Take it for what you will, but both sides should have much more important issues to address.

JR
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Ok ladies, let me play Solomon here. Anyone with a brain, even the Libturds know this, knows that negative reps don't do a darn thing. Has anyone noticed any changes in the Prog Filth's posts because of their negative reps. Of course not silly. On the contrary it gives them a strange tickle in their vaginas that they have gotten to you, you know like when you used to argue with your little brother and you got his goat. It made you feel good, didn't it? This is what these Commies are striving for and you pea brains are falling for it. I used to P's off my antagonists by just laughing at their stupidity and most of the time they didn't know how to handle it.

So what's the answer? The answer is to eliminate the Negative Rep but keep the Positive Rep as that does more good because at least it shows that there's someone on your side and agreeing with you instead of just blowing you to the wind with the post. Negative Reps only encourage those pea brains to continue razzing you and I guess if you're a complete masochist you let them.

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RE: I Cleaned Up Too Much Rep Abuse Last Night! You Are On Notice......
So if I understand correctly, the trolls can troll and the best thing everyone else can do is put them on ignore. Easy peasy.
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(09-09-2021 08:53 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So if I understand correctly, the trolls can troll and the best thing everyone else can do is put them on ignore. Easy peasy.

1. Report them.
2. Quit trolling back.
3. Nothing is easier than a ban.
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RE: I Cleaned Up Too Much Rep Abuse Last Night! You Are On Notice......
(09-08-2021 10:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 10:21 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 08:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 08:45 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Is it possible that the whole concept of “reputation points” has outlived its usefulness?

been there - done that

it serves a purpose…

I don’t believe in neg reps…and I read ‘em all/ignore no one…

Not sure why anyone would want to dilute the negative or positive point system. The system IMO was put in place to be used only when a specific or important point or humor is made for positive or when someone crosses the line in subhuman behavior for negative. I have used both and anyone who has seen my negatives would see why I used them. But, once it used your point has been made to the poster. Multiples just makes it redundant and takes away from its original meaning.

To me, the issue is that when someone receives a neg rep, their immediate reaction is not to think what they might have done to deserve it, but to quickly go and neg rep the person back. It then just all turns rather childish.

And no, I'm not claiming that I have not engaged in similar behavior with certain posters...but those posters are WELL aware of what they're doing.

I really don't pay attention to any negative reps I get.

But some posts deserve negative reps and I will occassionally give them.
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(09-09-2021 05:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-09-2021 04:52 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don’t believe I’ve ever used the negative rep for anyone. I don’t see the point. Though I’m a conservative I try to see the other side’s point of view and respect their right to have it. Most of the time I can find common ground.

Unfortunately I think we are beginning to see the “if I don’t agree with the opinion it should be removed” element moving onto our forum. The days of polite discourse are over.

Every Society which practices muzzling dissent ends up with escalating civil violence, or ends in totalitarianism, which as one who has helped refugees and immigrants from totalitarian regimes I can assure you is a miserable existence, and far worse than any American can imagine no matter how bathed in victimization they believe themselves to be. Only those in the inner circles of power find any privilege or benefit in totalitarianism.

We have some cancel culture mentality filtering into this forum, but most of it consists of the high school mentality of name calling, which IMO, is way too tolerated here, but the board tends to set acceptable behavior and both sides hurl insults like drunken cowboys hurl cow patties.

But the next point of emphasis is board appropriateness. If you hurl insults and love it we have the Wild West Board. Have at it. But from here on out if you hurl an insult without engaging the OP in your remarks you will get dinged!

Most OP's have an issue or issues worthy of opposing viewpoints. Attack the argument and not the poster. A blanket statement of dismissal is not an argument and will be treated as a troll post.

The problem for moderators occurs when decent posters don't report a troll or insult only post, but respond in kind. Now the mod has to ding an otherwise decent poster in order to punish the instigator. Well I guess it's time for taking both out if necessary. Unless of course you simply refuse to engage the flame or troll and report it.

Rep wars are nothing but what happens when people are out of mud and start flinging pooh! It's the red flag that a crackdown is needed.

Take it for what you will, but both sides should have much more important issues to address.

JR

Wait, drunk cowboys pick up and throw manure? Okay 03-lol

But anyway...I think it might help if there was a mechanism to know whether your reported post has been read and acted upon in some way...either with a response of "warning issued" or "no action taken", or maybe just a read receipt.

Since you seem to be the only moderator currently who gives a damn...and you don't technically moderate this forum...it seems like reporting a post is just pointless as nothing seems to happen. Basically, if we knew our reported post accomplished something, we might be more willing to comply.

Thanks again. I know you'd much rather be doing other things.
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I rarely have given negative reps. I have left to to the mods to clean up language and personal attacks on the forum. Unfortunately...that has gotten way out of hand lately. I hate to say it..but...Mods are not doing a very good job of stopping some of the nonsense. There you go. Ban me if you wish. I couldn't care less. I waste too much time on this silly mess anyway.
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(09-10-2021 11:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I rarely have given negative reps. I have left to to the mods to clean up language and personal attacks on the forum. Unfortunately...that has gotten way out of hand lately. I hate to say it..but...Mods are not doing a very good job of stopping some of the nonsense. There you go. Ban me if you wish. I couldn't care less. I waste too much time on this silly mess anyway.

Mods have to be present to do anything. Summertime has annually been problematic for Mod attendance, especially on this forum.

Mods don't get paid, are posters, and quite frankly have to dig deeply into threads to find out how cat fights get started and to appropriately clean up a mess. Rep wars can take a lot of time to clean up.

You people are allegedly adults. Yet when I first started posting in here about 3 years ago it was to cover for absent mods because the reported posts were piling up. Supermods are supposed to handle reported posts when board mods don't handle them within 24 hours. I now give it 48 hours because I don't like getting accused by absent mods of having "stepped on their turf" as if that is even a thing.

When I posted here I started enforcing AUP and cleaning up the insults. And the so called adults here demanded and went to GTS about their "rights as adults to swear". So AUP was walked back. Then the howls went up about people being man enough to handle insults. So insults were to be tolerated.

So perhaps you should take a good hard look at yourselves before you go blaming people who were nominated by the board, voted on by the board, and agreed to volunteer their time to clean up the crap you sling at each other?

I lived in an age where if two peers wanted to go at it everyone circled up and let the 2 of them beat the hell out of each other so the mess was settled and we could move on to achieving whatever it was we were assembled to accomplish.

I'm sure your mods here get damned tired of being accused of taking sides for stopping 2 a-holes from having a running feud.

Two polarized sides can't solve any issue by constantly ratcheting up the antagonism and rhetoric and if we are ever invaded most of you will be so busy counting coup with insults to even notice.

But hey message boards are for passing time, or killing it without working it to death, so whatever.

These are the worst times the nation has faced since 1941. Let's be more constructive, more open to being honest about truly horrid leadership on both sides of the aisle, and keep our eyes on who is profiting from all of it, Corporate Multi-nationals which sell out our security for a buck, and our enemies, and we have more than a few. Endless news stories just flame a divide which keeps us from focusing on the culprits by pitting us against each other. It is all of our grandkids who will suffer for it, not just those on the right or left.

Perhaps what pisses me off the most is that the majority of people who post on message boards vent and never do a damn thing at their location to make a better world. Message boards are the binky of adult cry babies and once they've had a tantrum they roll over, do nothing, and go back to sleep. It's the softest of blankets to pound your fists into because there isn't even a floor to crack your knuckles on.

It's why I call the Spin Room "Romper Room".

Now do you want to act like adults or do you want your snacks and a story time before your naps?
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(09-10-2021 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-10-2021 11:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I rarely have given negative reps. I have left to to the mods to clean up language and personal attacks on the forum. Unfortunately...that has gotten way out of hand lately. I hate to say it..but...Mods are not doing a very good job of stopping some of the nonsense. There you go. Ban me if you wish. I couldn't care less. I waste too much time on this silly mess anyway.

Mods have to be present to do anything. Summertime has annually been problematic for Mod attendance, especially on this forum.

Mods don't get paid, are posters, and quite frankly have to dig deeply into threads to find out how cat fights get started and to appropriately clean up a mess. Rep wars can take a lot of time to clean up.

You people are allegedly adults. Yet when I first started posting in here about 3 years ago it was to cover for absent mods because the reported posts were piling up. Supermods are supposed to handle reported posts when board mods don't handle them within 24 hours. I now give it 48 hours because I don't like getting accused by absent mods of having "stepped on their turf" as if that is even a thing.

When I posted here I started enforcing AUP and cleaning up the insults. And the so called adults here demanded and went to GTS about their "rights as adults to swear". So AUP was walked back. Then the howls went up about people being man enough to handle insults. So insults were to be tolerated.

So perhaps you should take a good hard look at yourselves before you go blaming people who were nominated by the board, voted on by the board, and agreed to volunteer their time to clean up the crap you sling at each other?

I lived in an age where if two peers wanted to go at it everyone circled up and let the 2 of them beat the hell out of each other so the mess was settled and we could move on to achieving whatever it was we were assembled to accomplish.

I'm sure your mods here get damned tired of being accused of taking sides for stopping 2 a-holes from having a running feud.

Two polarized sides can't solve any issue by constantly ratcheting up the antagonism and rhetoric and if we are ever invaded most of you will be so busy counting coup with insults to even notice.

But hey message boards are for passing time, or killing it without working it to death, so whatever.

These are the worst times the nation has faced since 1941. Let's be more constructive, more open to being honest about truly horrid leadership on both sides of the aisle, and keep our eyes on who is profiting from all of it, Corporate Multi-nationals which sell out our security for a buck, and our enemies, and we have more than a few. Endless news stories just flame a divide which keeps us from focusing on the culprits by pitting us against each other. It is all of our grandkids who will suffer for it, not just those on the right or left.

Perhaps what pisses me off the most is that the majority of people who post on message boards vent and never do a damn thing at their location to make a better world. Message boards are the binky of adult cry babies and once they've had a tantrum they roll over, do nothing, and go back to sleep. It's the softest of blankets to pound your fists into because there isn't even a floor to crack your knuckles on.

It's why I call the Spin Room "Romper Room".

Now do you want to act like adults or do you want your snacks and a story time before your naps?

Nice Post JR 04-cheers
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(09-10-2021 12:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-10-2021 11:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I rarely have given negative reps. I have left to to the mods to clean up language and personal attacks on the forum. Unfortunately...that has gotten way out of hand lately. I hate to say it..but...Mods are not doing a very good job of stopping some of the nonsense. There you go. Ban me if you wish. I couldn't care less. I waste too much time on this silly mess anyway.

Mods have to be present to do anything. Summertime has annually been problematic for Mod attendance, especially on this forum.

Mods don't get paid, are posters, and quite frankly have to dig deeply into threads to find out how cat fights get started and to appropriately clean up a mess. Rep wars can take a lot of time to clean up.

You people are allegedly adults. Yet when I first started posting in here about 3 years ago it was to cover for absent mods because the reported posts were piling up. Supermods are supposed to handle reported posts when board mods don't handle them within 24 hours. I now give it 48 hours because I don't like getting accused by absent mods of having "stepped on their turf" as if that is even a thing.

When I posted here I started enforcing AUP and cleaning up the insults. And the so called adults here demanded and went to GTS about their "rights as adults to swear". So AUP was walked back. Then the howls went up about people being man enough to handle insults. So insults were to be tolerated.

So perhaps you should take a good hard look at yourselves before you go blaming people who were nominated by the board, voted on by the board, and agreed to volunteer their time to clean up the crap you sling at each other?

I lived in an age where if two peers wanted to go at it everyone circled up and let the 2 of them beat the hell out of each other so the mess was settled and we could move on to achieving whatever it was we were assembled to accomplish.

I'm sure your mods here get damned tired of being accused of taking sides for stopping 2 a-holes from having a running feud.

Two polarized sides can't solve any issue by constantly ratcheting up the antagonism and rhetoric and if we are ever invaded most of you will be so busy counting coup with insults to even notice.

But hey message boards are for passing time, or killing it without working it to death, so whatever.

These are the worst times the nation has faced since 1941. Let's be more constructive, more open to being honest about truly horrid leadership on both sides of the aisle, and keep our eyes on who is profiting from all of it, Corporate Multi-nationals which sell out our security for a buck, and our enemies, and we have more than a few. Endless news stories just flame a divide which keeps us from focusing on the culprits by pitting us against each other. It is all of our grandkids who will suffer for it, not just those on the right or left.

Perhaps what pisses me off the most is that the majority of people who post on message boards vent and never do a damn thing at their location to make a better world. Message boards are the binky of adult cry babies and once they've had a tantrum they roll over, do nothing, and go back to sleep. It's the softest of blankets to pound your fists into because there isn't even a floor to crack your knuckles on.

It's why I call the Spin Room "Romper Room".

Now do you want to act like adults or do you want your snacks and a story time before your naps?

Your explanation is enough for me and I appreciate your efforts. I will continue to do as I have in the past and try my best NOT to get into cat fights here and ignore those that seem to relish in it.
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Wait.

We're supposed to get snacks here?

Did I miss the sign up or something?!?
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(09-10-2021 03:02 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Wait.

We're supposed to get snacks here?

Did I miss the sign up or something?!?

Yeah, I missed that part too. But, I don't miss the fist fights JR alluded to. Of course my variety always included wallowing in the gravel as well.
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