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And some actual reporting from a credible source...

Blinken denies Taliban blocking Americans from leaving Mazar-i-Sharif
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Reuters is credible? Blinken is not credible. Even that hack John McCain had once said that Blinken was the most dangerous man in America and should be kept far away from power.

So you post tweets from some unknown hack that replies to his own tweets only because he is somehow trying to dispute what everybody else knows.

From the linked Reuters article;

Quote:The confusion was the latest flashpoint following a chaotic U.S. military withdrawal completed after Taliban Islamist insurgents seized power in Kabul on Aug. 15, after the Western-backed government collapsed.

Exasperated by the delays, the organizer said the State Department had failed to tell the Taliban of its approval for flight departures from the international airport in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif or validate a landing site.

"They need to be held accountable for putting these people's lives in danger," said the organizer, who sought anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Reuters could not independently verify the details of the account.

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, challenged the idea that Americans were at risk, saying the U.S. government "has not confirmed any Americans are in Mazar-i-Sharif trying to leave from the airport."

The State Department is full of clowns and has been identified as one of the biggest impediments in getting Americans out of the country. They are liars. Blinken is a liar. Biden is a liar. Yet you continually try to defend them all.

Why is it that you always, without fail come down on the side of liars?
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Been discussing it here: https://csnbbs.com/thread-928645.html

What I've posted:







Quote:Six airplanes full of American citizens and Afghan refugees are reportedly being blocked from takeoff by the Taliban, in what has been referred to as a "hostage" situation. CBS News confirmed the news reported early Sunday morning by Fox News that Taliban is blocking planes holding Americans and green card holders.

As of Sunday morning, the planes have still not been cleared to take off, and there is no word on which the situation may change. According to the video released by CBS News, the US officials stationed in Doha, Qatar, have been negotiating with Taliban officials, but so far no deal has been made.

A State Department email viewed by CBS News said that the flights out of Afghanistan have permission to land in Qatar "if and when the Taliban agrees to takeoff." A senior congressional source told CBS News that the Taliban is "basically holding them hostage to get more out of the Americans."



"The group Ascend, an NGO that teaches young women leadership through athletics, told CBS News they have two planes that have been waiting for six days ready to take between 600 and 1200 people — including 19 American citizens and two permanent residents," the CBS News report added. "The planes are not currently loaded. The passengers are being held nearby, because the Taliban won't let them into the airport, according to a senior congressional source."

Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) went on Fox News to state Sunday that the Taliban are going to want something in return for letting the flights leave Afghanistan.



"They are not clearing the airplanes to depart. They've sat at the airport for the last couple days, these planes, and they're not allowed to leave," McCaul said.

"We know the reason why is because the Taliban wants something in exchange. This is really turning into a hostage situation, where they're not gonna allow American citizens to leave until they get full recognition [as an official government] by the USA," the Republican lawmaker said.

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Biden State Dept. Claims They Have No Resources To Rescue Trapped Flights, Americans In Afghanistan


Quote:The Biden administration is claiming that they have “no resources” to rescue trapped Americans and flights in Afghanistan.

The U.S. State Department claimed that it has few resources available to facilitate the evacuation and that they have no “reliable” information about the trapped flights.

“Individuals associated with an organization handling the flights that the State Department is the only obstacle to the chartered planes leaving the airport, but sources close to the situation told the Daily Wire Sunday that while the State Department is not negotiating landing zones, the Taliban is also making significant demands, effectively creating a “hostage situation” on the ground in Afghanistan,” the Daily Wire reported.

A State Department official reportedly said their hands are tied and that they do not have any resources on the ground to get trapped American home.

“We do not have personnel on the ground, we do not have air assets in the country, we do not control the airspace—whether over Afghanistan or elsewhere in the region,” the official told the Free Beacon. “We understand the concern that many people are feeling as they try to facilitate further charter and other passage out of Afghanistan.”

A spokesman added, “Given these constraints, we also do not have a reliable means to confirm the basic details of charter flights, including who may be organizing them, the number of U.S. citizens and other priority groups on-board, the accuracy of the rest of the manifest, and where they plan to land, among many other issues.”

The ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee said Sunday that the Taliban were holding Americans “hostage” by preventing them from leaving aboard a half-dozen planes that are ready for departure because they “want something” in return.

“We have six airplanes at Mazar Sharif Airport, six airplanes with American citizens on them as I speak, also with these interpreters, and the Taliban is holding them hostage for demands right now,” Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said during an interview with “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace.

“State has cleared these flights, and the Taliban will not let them leave the airport,” he continued, referring to the State Department.

Wallace continued to press the Texas Republican, which led McCaul to declare that the development is “turning into a hostage situation.”

“Well, they are not clearing airplanes to depart. They’ve sat at the airport for the last couple days, these planes, and they’re not allowed to leave,” McCaul said. “We know the reason why is because the Taliban want something in exchange.”

“This is really, Chris, turning into a hostage situation where they’re not gonna allow American citizens to leave until they get full recognition from the United States of America,” McCaul added.

The ranking Foreign Affairs Committee member is not the first Republican to broach the subject.

McCaul’s Texas colleague, Rep. Ronny Jackson, formerly the White House physician, also said that the Taliban was currently blocking Americans from flying out of the country.

“They’ve already been manifested on flights,” he told “Greg Kelly Reports” before adding that the Taliban leadership wants something in return for allowing the Americans and their Afghani allies to leave, such as cash or recognition as the country’s legitimate government, which would be a major public relations feat.

“The airplanes are there. Everything is ready to go. They can’t get out, and the reason they can’t get out is because the Taliban won’t release the flight until Sept. 9 because they want to be recognized as an official government,” Jackson said.

“They want to be officially recognized as a legitimate government,” he continued.

“And I guarantee you these hostages, they’re hostages right now, are being held until the American, until the United States, until the Biden administration recognizes the Taliban as a government,” Jackson noted further.

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Simping for the Taliban Begins After Americans Taken Hostage


Quote:Right now, 11 different passenger planes are being denied the ability to leave Afghanistan by the Taliban. Those flights include over 100 Americans looking to escape the turmoil. RedState previously reported on the ongoing crisis, including the absurdity of Kamala Harris going to campaign in California while this is going on.

But now, likely because Glenn Beck is involved in eight of the flights, the simping for the Taliban by the news media has begun. Newsweek’s editor-at-large chimed in with perhaps the dumbest semantic argument I’ve ever seen. Though, to be fair, I’ve seen a lot of dumb semantic arguments.





According to this ridiculous clown, these Americans aren’t being denied exit from the country. Rather, they are being told their planes can’t leave the country. See the difference? Yeah, me neither. It’s a stupid, meaningless distinction being used to take a shot at GOP Rep. Michael McCaul instead of just reporting what’s happening on the ground.

Naveed Jamali promotes himself as a former “double agent,” so you’d expect that he’d be smart enough to recognize a hostage situation when he sees one. You see, the “impasse” between the State Department and the Taliban that he cites is because the Taliban are asking for something. And unless the Taliban get it, they are not going to allow the Americans to leave. In any normal setting, we call that holding someone hostage. There is no requirement that the Americans must be kept on the plane at gunpoint to qualify for the label.

The idea that there’s no evidence the Taliban are targeting the passengers is ludicrous. They clearly are, otherwise, they’d let them leave instead of tying them to talks with the State Department. Further, relying on NGO officials to characterize motive is asinine. Those NGO officials are at the mercy of the Taliban. They are not going to say anything that could jeopardize their access to Afghanistan. This is obviously a hostage situation. Perhaps it gets resolved, but as it sits, Americans are being confined by the Taliban, unable to return home, until they extract whatever concession they are looking for.

But the media are loathe to admit this is a hostage situation because that would mean they’d be beating up on Joe Biden again, and protecting him politically is far more important to many in the news industry than protecting Americans. Think about how incredible it is that we have over 100 Americans trapped in Afghanistan in just this specific situation, and the media have basically blacked it out. But worse, they are now defending the Taliban in order to excuse what’s going on.

Never trust these people. They will hang you out to dry, including leaving you in the hands of terrorists, if it means protecting their political narrative.

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This is a huge fckup. The entire State Department needs to resign immediately.
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So wait everyone says hey we got people stranded there, Tom says no because a Twitter person says so.

Yea..
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well tom has long been proven an idiot
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Give him a break. It has to be incredibly difficult to try to defend the clown show that is the Biden administration.
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(09-07-2021 01:00 PM)gdunn Wrote:  So wait everyone says hey we got people stranded there, Tom says no because a Twitter person says so.

Yea..

Tell me you either didn't read or can't understand my post without telling me you either didn't read or can't understand my post.

Yea...
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State Department: US Powerless To Stop Taliban From Grounding Planes

Quote:After promising to evacuate all American citizens from Afghanistan, the State Department said there is little it can do to help planes grounded by the Taliban.

“We do not have personnel on the ground, we do not have air assets in the country, we do not control the airspace — whether over Afghanistan or elsewhere in the region,” a State Department spokesman told the Washington Free Beacon. “We understand the concern that many people are feeling as they try to facilitate further charter and other passage out of Afghanistan.”

Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, said on Sunday that six planes carrying American citizens and Afghan interpreters were waiting at the airport.

“[The State Department] has cleared these flights and the Taliban will not let them leave the airport,” he told Fox News. “We know the reason why is because the Taliban want something in exchange.”

The Taliban denied the allegations, with spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid calling the claims “propaganda.”

The six flights awaiting takeoff were chartered by nonprofit groups and others. McCaul said the planes have been stuck at the airport for several days and include citizens trying to flee the Taliban.

Although Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Monday that the State Department would pursue “relentless effort” to evacuate the estimated 200 Americans left in Afghanistan, the department said it does not have “reliable means” to access information about the six stranded charter flights.

“Given these constraints, we also do not have a reliable means to confirm the basic details of charter flights, including who may be organizing them, the number of U.S. citizens and other priority groups on-board, the accuracy of the rest of the manifest, and where they plan to land, among many other issues,” the spokesman said.

Since President Joe Biden’s botched withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, reports from the Taliban-controlled region show that some Americans were beaten and harassed by the Taliban. Biden previously said in an Aug. 18 interview with George Stephanopoulos that “if there’s American citizens left, we are going to stay until we get them all out.”

But with six planes stranded, an estimated 200 Americans left waiting for help, and a State Department that can’t confirm a “reliable means” to get its citizens out of Afghanistan, the Biden administration’s promises look empty.
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Both Psaki and Blinken Try to Downplay Hostage Situation With Taliban in Mazar-i-Sharif


Quote:The Biden administration owes us a lot of answers when it comes to leaving Americans in Afghanistan and what they are doing to try to get them out.

As we reported over the weekend, there were multiple situations they didn’t handle well. There was an American family — a mother and three children — who a private organization got out of the country overland, after weeks of trying to get them out. The State Department tried to take credit for the rescue when all they seem to have done is get the family tourist visas after they were already out of Afghanistan and they had to be called out by the people involved in the actual extraction who said that was a lie.

Then, there have been planes being held up for at least six days in Mazar-i-Sharif with Americans and Afghan allies waiting to fly out. According to Newsweek, there were at least 142 Americans as part of the group trying to get out with hundreds of Afghans. Private organizers of the rescue said that at least part of the problem was the State Department failing to clear people out of the airport fast enough. Because of that, it then developed basically into a hostage situation with the Taliban reportedly holding the planes up until they got something from the United States, according to Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX).

So when White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki was asked today about Americans still stranded and specifically what they were doing about the Mazar-i-Sharif situation now being held up by the Taliban, Psaki once again tried to play word games rather than simply answer honestly about getting Americans out.

The same folks who said they weren’t going to strand people in Afghanistan (and then did) are now trying to downplay the situation on the ground in Mazar-i-Sharif, not taking any responsibility for their part in the delay, covering for the Taliban holding up the planes. Psaki refused to even ascribe blame there, between the State Department and the Taliban, just calling it a problem of “incorrect paperwork” — that’s now held the planes up for more than six days. That’s crazy and those people are still in great danger from the Taliban, not to mention any other terrorists who now know about them waiting for the planes there. Why are they still there and why has it taken the Biden bunch all this time — and they’re not even done yet — dealing with “paperwork?” That’s how you know that this is nonsense and you have to ask what is actually going on behind the scenes.

Psaki claimed that there were just under 100 Americans still in Afghanistan. This is refuted by just the reported number according to Newsweek waiting to go out on the planes Mazar-i-Sharif — at least 142 Americans (minus the four who got out overland). Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) has also said, based upon his understanding of people they’ve been in contact with, there are closer to 500 Americans.

From NY Post:

Questioned about the planes sitting for days on the tarmac at the Mazar-i-Sharif airport, Psaki echoed Secretary of State Antony Blinken in blaming documentation for the delays.

“We’re working to get every single American citizen, any individual who has documentation out of the country, and I think our secretary of state also spoke to this on the ground in Qatar where he conveyed that he has not received reports … that individuals who have documentation have been stopped,” she said.

Blinken acknowledged that there was a “relatively small number” of Americans trying to leave Mazar-i-Sharif and that the Taliban were allowing US citizens and Afghan allies and their families to depart as long as they have the proper travel documents. ​

But those lacking the correct paperwork are being held up, he said.

“On these charter flights, as I mentioned, one of the challenges has been that, as we understand it, there are groups of people who are grouped together, some of whom have the appropriate travel documents — an American passport, a green card, a visa — and others do not,” Blinken said.

“​And it’s my understanding that the Taliban has not denied exit to anyone holding a valid document, but they have said that those without valid documents at this point can’t leave. But because all of these people are grouped together, that’s meant that flights have not been allowed to go​,” he continued. [….]

“We are not aware of anyone being held on an aircraft or any hostage life situation in Mazar-i-Sharif,”

While they’re trying to downplay the hostage situation, what else do you want to call it if they can’t leave and what are you doing to resolve it? They don’t give any indication that they are any closer today to resolving it than days ago. The people were at last check still waiting in safe houses, waiting for the planes to be cleared.

Psaki then tried to steal credit for the rescue of the four Americans as well, something which we already reported the Biden team wasn’t responsible for.

“I think the State Department has given numbers that as you may have seen out there reported over the weekend, there were four American citizens who were able to depart overland. That’s one of the ways that we are working with American citizens to get out of the country,” Psaki said.

Yeah, no, that was a lie, you didn’t do anything to rescue them.

They really have no shame at all, especially given that they put them in this situation.

Imagine, the Biden folks let all kinds of folks across the border without any form of ID but they held up Americans whose lives are actually in danger because of “paperwork” and allowed this to fall into the hands of the Taliban. They can’t just get them out, hold them in a foreign country and figure it out there? They’d rather endanger everyone’s lives because of it? These people are seriously twisted human beings.
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(09-07-2021 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And some actual reporting from a credible source...

Blinken denies Taliban blocking Americans from leaving Mazar-i-Sharif



https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1...3435509764

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