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RE: Just wait until Houston, Cinci, and UCF grow into their P5 status
(10-14-2021 02:24 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote: (10-12-2021 11:12 AM)ShadyGrove Wrote: (10-12-2021 10:33 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote: (10-12-2021 12:40 AM)ShadyGrove Wrote: (09-06-2021 07:56 PM)bullet Wrote: Houston will only rarely win a recruiting battle head to head with Texas A&M, OU or Texas. They can compete with the rest. Texas A&M, OU and Texas compete with top programs from out of state. Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech and Oklahoma St. will occasionally get someone really high, but usually not someone those 3 were pursuing hard.
If Houston builds a consistent winner in the Big 12, and the university continues to improve, they will win the recruiting battle over OU. Texas and TAM may retain an advantage but Houston will be slotted in behind those two.
Houston has no chance recruiting against schools like Texas A&M, OU, and Texas. These three schools can recruit nationally as well as in the state of Texas. Plus, they will all be SEC schools. Houston and the other New Big 12 schools will be going up in recruiting against the SEC schools. Among the current top ten football recruits in Texas according to 247sports.com 2022 rankings, two are committed to Ohio State, one to Clemson, and one to Oregon. The Big Ten, ACC, and Pac-12 have at least one recruit in the top ten. The rest are going to OU, UT or an SEC school. There is not a single New Big 12 school in the top 25.
Once OU and UT offically join the SEC, the games are going to be can't miss TV for college football fans. This past weekend, OU vs UT was a thriller, Ole Miss held off Arkansas 52-51 and Texas A&M upset Alabama. That is what the SEC will look like in the future and that is going to be difficult to recruit against for the New Bg 12.
I have to disagree with you on OU. OU's main focus in Texas is the metroplex. There are enough high caliber athletes there alone to fill the roster for a number of schools.
In Houston, UH has a real shot in moving behind Texas and TAMU. Sure LSU and other schools recruit from Texas, but if the program continues to decline, and they are under Coach O, UH has a pretty bright future imo. Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes, Michael Strahan, Von Miller, Michael Bennett, Danny Amendola...etc...etc are all from Texas who weren't high on the list for recruiters. Find the right coach, have the institutional will, it's not hard to imagine getting a few of these guys. Herman managed to get Ed Oliver.
People forget that the SEC is where it is because there was a run of Saban - LSU, Meyer - UF, Saban - Alabama. Before there was a real argument that other conferences had better programs. Saban will not be at Alabam forever.
Ed Oliver was an exception to the norm. Below is the recruiting ranking of Houston football teams over the past five years according to 247sports.com:
2021 - No. 85
2020 - No. 72
2019 - No. 73
2018 - No. 73
2017 - No. 69
In these five years, Houston has not recruited a single five-star or four-star football player. In the 2022 recruiting class from Texas to this point, there is not one player in the Texas To 50 going to Houston:
https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Footba...l&State=TX
Among the NB12 schools, there is barely any activity in the Texas Top 50. It is not going to get better. Texas is going to become an SEC state once UT joins the SEC. The SEC, Big Ten, Pac-12, ACC and Notre Dame are able to recruit Texas better than the NB12 schools. That is going to be a problem for the NB12.
Nah. the top half of the SEC, Ohio St., Michigan, Penn St., USC, Oregon, Clemson, FSU and Notre Dame are able to recruit Texas better than the NB12. Not the rest.
Looking at it, SMU has 3 of the top 50, TCU 2, Oklahoma St. 1. Texas, Texas A&M and OU have a bunch. The out of state schools are Ohio St. (2), Oregon (2), Florida (2), FSU, Notre Dame, Penn St., Missouri, Stanford, Washington and Kentucky. Among the uncommitted, most are between Texas, Texas A&M, OU & an out of state school-and the only schools involved are Florida, Ohio St., Alabama and USC.
So you have 6 Big 12/AAC vs. 4 non-powers. And Stanford gets certain types of academically elite players, so its really just 3.
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