(09-06-2021 08:22 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  Did you really post all that about the "importance of past relationships " with the AAC teams and then not mention Charlotte, who has a longer history with most of those schools (especially within the last 30 years) than any of the schools you did list?

I was just using the ones he mentioned as being considered for AAC membership. Many schools in the two conferences have had varying relationships with others off and on for decades.

If we lose UAB, Marshall and two others it will really weaken the conference. It would be bad for WKU IMO. The conference would be going backwards. Who could we even get to go to twelve that would really add strength and what motivation would they have to even join? Still spread out but weaker overall.

Hopefully there is a bigger shakeup that creates multiple opportunities. OR a smaller shakeup to only lose UAB and RICE-- that wouldn't hurt near as much.

Here is a thought. How about nobody
Agree to join the AAC
Then nobody would owe an exit fee
And the AAC would not be close to being
A P6. Just another in the group of 5

(09-06-2021 10:16 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  Here is a thought. How about nobody
Agree to join the AAC
Then nobody would owe an exit fee
And the AAC would not be close to being
A P6. Just another in the group of 5

If everyone agreed to that from the other 4 G5’s it would work. We’d probably even see ECU and USF come back. But it will never happen for the same reasons the AAC couldn’t stay together and poach the B12.

(09-06-2021 10:27 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 10:16 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  Here is a thought. How about nobody
Agree to join the AAC
Then nobody would owe an exit fee
And the AAC would not be close to being
A P6. Just another in the group of 5

If everyone agreed to that from the other 4 G5’s it would work. We’d probably even see ECU and USF come back. But it will never happen for the same reasons the AAC couldn’t stay together and poach the B12.

Exactly, unfortunately UAB and Rice can not turn down AAC offers. Their alumni expect it.

(09-06-2021 08:29 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 08:22 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  Did you really post all that about the "importance of past relationships " with the AAC teams and then not mention Charlotte, who has a longer history with most of those schools (especially within the last 30 years) than any of the schools you did list?

I was just using the ones he mentioned as being considered for AAC membership. Many schools in the two conferences have had varying relationships with others off and on for decades.

Even though WKU, Charlotte, and ODU have successful and storied basketball programs the lack of FBS football history will be the deciding factors.

Of course we know UAB, Marshall and USM having history with the AAC schools. Rice and UTEP joined in 2005. Tech was literally a vote short of being included in CUSA and Memphis decided to vote for UTEP.

Tech has the support of several current AAC so does USM. Marshall has the support of several also. I really see the old band getting back together. UAB and Rice are locks, then USM and Marshall getting the nods

We all know how the world works, it’s not about what you know or who is most deserving.

The use of non-qualifiers by Marshall really irked some of the more academic AAC schools. Not saying it will be a deciding factor but I can
tell you they did not like it at all.

(09-06-2021 11:40 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The use of non-qualifiers by Marshall really irked some of the more academic AAC schools. Not saying it will be a deciding factor but I can
tell you they did not like it at all.

LOL....we haven't used NQs in the last few classes in football and I don't know if we have ever used them in basketball.

Are you claiming to have inside sources? Or is all your info from the last two posts just some he said she said stuff? Just curious?

Rice? You guys think we're going to lose our top half of our football powers (the sport that literally runs this all) and replace them with....... the Rice Owls......

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certaintythat half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

100% certainty, huh? So now you’d have us believe that you are aresco. But I would bet my bottom dollar that even he is no where near ‘100%’ sure of anything.

The only sane way to even come close to doing an unbiased guess in this whole restructure game is to turn off our respective school/conf biases.

There are some UL homers who are just as certain we are a lock for the B12 so there’s that too.

(09-07-2021 12:28 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 11:40 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  The use of non-qualifiers by Marshall really irked some of the more academic AAC schools. Not saying it will be a deciding factor but I can
tell you they did not like it at all.

LOL....we haven't used NQs in the last few classes in football and I don't know if we have ever used them in basketball.

Are you claiming to have inside sources? Or is all your info from the last two posts just some he said she said stuff? Just curious?

He doesn't have any inside info. It's just fan speculation on a message board. He's always posted with tons of bravado and homerism but not much substance

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(09-07-2021 01:42 AM)grapes Wrote:  Rice? You guys think we're going to lose our top half of our football powers (the sport that literally runs this all) and replace them with....... the Rice Owls......

As much as it pains me to agree with you.....

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

Show me any proof the AAC has reached out to these 5 schools.

(09-07-2021 06:59 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

Show me any proof the AAC has reached out to these 5 schools.

It's standard procedure in realignment threads to always create a list that includes your own school. But having said that, if we had access to Aresco's list, I would bet that Army and Air Force are 1 and 2. Once they get a no thanks from those 2 you then have a fairly long list that includes those 5 listed plus ULL, App St, FAU, Buffalo and a few more that I'm unaware of.

(09-07-2021 07:06 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 06:59 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

Show me any proof the AAC has reached out to these 5 schools.

It's standard procedure in realignment threads to always create a list that includes your own school. But having said that, if we had access to Aresco's list, I would bet that Army and Air Force are 1 and 2. Once they get a no thanks from those 2 you then have a fairly long list that includes those 5 listed plus ULL, App St, FAU, Buffalo and a few more that I'm unaware of.

Exactly, the only proof will be pointing to another realignment thread on this or another message board where someone else included La Tech.

These threads are quite hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

(09-07-2021 06:59 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

Show me any proof the AAC has reached out to these 5 schools.

I think he meant those schools have reached out to the AAC and the AAC has responded in kind.

(09-07-2021 07:46 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 06:59 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

Show me any proof the AAC has reached out to these 5 schools.

I think he meant those schools have reached out to the AAC and the AAC has responded in kind.

I don’t believe that is what he said and if if it was, I know those are not the only teams that reached out to the AAC so either way it’s baloney.

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

As a Troy fan I can 100% agree Troy isn’t on the radar of AAC schools and if any Troy fan does they are crazy.

We don’t match the academic standing, athletic budget, market size, or basketball success of the conference.

I think older CUSA 1.0 and 2.0 teams get the most looks because they are former peers and that means something.

(09-07-2021 08:13 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

As a Troy fan I can 100% agree Troy isn’t on the radar of AAC schools and if any Troy fan does they are crazy.

We don’t match the academic standing, athletic budget, market size, or basketball success of the conference.

I think older CUSA 1.0 and 2.0 teams get the most looks because they are former peers and that means something.

Yeah, and even if teams don't join this new american, there's definitely enough juice out there to form a pretty good conference.

(09-07-2021 07:46 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-07-2021 06:59 AM)Dusky Wrote:  

(09-06-2021 06:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Lets bring some sanity to this thread, I can tell for 100% certainty that half that list is not even in consideration. App State, most definitely not Troy or ULL. No SBC or MAC


Back in 2005 UTEP was pick over Tech for CUSA. Those relationships still do exist and the Memphis president is gone.

Five schools that the AAC has reached out to:

Rice
UAB
Marshall
USM
Tech

It is coming down between Marshall, USM and Tech for the 3rd and 4th spot

UAB and Rice seem to be locks. These chancellors and President have totally different set of criteria that any y’all are considering. I can tell you for 100% certainty that App state and Troy are not even be considered regardless of how many Sunbelt wins these schools have, trust me They don’t care.

Show me any proof the AAC has reached out to these 5 schools.

I think he meant those schools have reached out to the AAC and the AAC has responded in kind.

There is strong mutual interest. I know some fans of other schools will get their feelings hurt and start with personal attacks, even though juvenile I understand the sentiment. No offense to FAU or FIU but UCF and USF have made clear they do not want to be associated with either. Whether it is lack the fan support or lack of history, I don’t know the internal Florida politics but there is hardly any support for FAU or FIU.