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Who Benefits From The Afghanistan Withdrawal?


Quote:How does a leader decide what to do?

The most logical response is: “Cui bono?” — “Who benefits?” — from the decision.

If some policy benefits your country most, you should, within moral bounds, pursue it.

If your enemies benefit most, you should avoid it.

I’d be curious to learn what answer proponents of America leaving Afghanistan — conservative or liberal — would give to the question, “Cui bono?”

I can say that until this moment, I have not read or heard a single cogent argument from proponents of American withdrawal as to how exactly it benefits America.

“Twenty years is too long,” or its variant, “we have to end these endless wars,” the most commonly offered argument for withdrawal, has nothing to do with benefiting America.

It is an emotional sentiment, not a rational argument.

The withdrawal has already cost us in a single day more service members’ lives than we lost on any one day in Afghanistan since June 2014, seven years ago.

The number of American servicemen killed in Afghanistan per year from 2015 to 2020 is respectively 22, 9, 14, 14, 21 and 11. No one can seriously argue that we are leaving Afghanistan because of high American casualties.

So, while America doesn’t benefit at all from leaving Afghanistan, it does get hurt.

The damage to the reputation of America — as an ally and as a strong country — is not easily overstated.

The damage done to NATO, whose members President Joe Biden didn’t bother to consult, is greater than any damage former President Donald Trump — whom the left-wing mainstream media constantly attacked for damaging NATO — was alleged to have done.

On the other hand, “Cui bono?” has some very clear answers: China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, every Islamic terror group in the world and every other anti-American regime and movement.

In The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro compiled a list of recent Western weakness in the face of tyrants and the commensurate strengthening of those tyrants:

“The West’s abandonment of Hong Kong in the face of Chinese aggression last year.

“The West’s continuing desire for a rapprochement with the Iranian mullahcracy.

“The West’s routine appeasement of Russia.

“All speak to the unwillingness of the West — and the West’s leader, the United States — to stand up for allies anywhere on earth.

“Afghanistan is simply the latest, and by far the most stunning, example of abandonment of an American ally …

“China’s Global Times, a Communist Party mouthpiece, chortled, ‘From what happened in Afghanistan, those in Taiwan should perceive that once a war breaks out in the Straits, the island’s defense will collapse in hours and U.S. military won’t come to help. As a result (Taiwan) will quickly surrender.’

“Indeed, given the window presented by the Biden administration, it would be somewhat of a surprise if China didn’t attempt some sort of action against Taiwan in the next few years …

“Foreign policy abhors vacuums, and the United States has now created one. That means that erstwhile American allies will begin to play footsie with countries like Russia and China, believing that American commitments mean little. They have reason for such suspicions, obviously.”

The effects on Americans’ perceptions of the military constitute another terrible price paid by leaving Afghanistan. More and more Americans see the military as more concerned with fighting white supremacy in America and transphobia in the military than with fighting for the supremacy of freedom on earth. This is new. And it will have a devastating effect on both America and the military. One obvious consequence: Who will want to enlist in a woke military? (Perhaps that’s the goal.)

It seems that every generation has to relearn the basic laws of life, such as this one: There are many bad people and many bad countries in the world, and only a fear of good countries prevents them from conquering other countries.

There is less fear of good countries in the world today than at any time since World War II. And that is especially so because the good countries are preoccupied with their own alleged evils rather than with the world’s real evils.
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The very fact the Taliban and Pakistan are allies is why the war there was never ever going to be winnable, other than as a base in which to weed out Bin Laden. Once it went beyond Bin Laden's capture, it was instantly another Vietnam situation. How anyone can fault Biden for being the first President to finally have the balls to take the heat in physically getting us out of there is totally ridiculous.
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(09-06-2021 11:49 PM)scorpius Wrote:  How anyone can fault Biden for being the first President to finally have the balls to take the heat in physically getting us out of there is totally ridiculous.

So Trump didn’t make him do it?
He came up with the idea himself?
Its not worth anymore of my time, or anyone else here for that matter, responding to your total ignorance.
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The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.
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European Union to Re-Establish a Diplomatic Presence in Taliban-Run Afghanistan


Quote:The European Union is set to establish a diplomatic presence in Taliban-controlled Kabul amid increasing concerns over the influence of Communist China and Russia in Afghanistan, as well as a potential Afghan migrant crisis.

On Friday, the Foreign Affairs and Security Policy representative for the EU, Josep Borrell, said that the decision to forge a diplomatic presence in Afghanistan should not be understood as diplomatically recognising the Islamist Taliban as the government of the country, somehow.

Borrell claimed that engagement with the Taliban will be dependent on the Islamist group preventing Afghanistan once again becoming an exporter of terrorism abroad, respecting the rule of law, human rights, and a free press.

He also called on the Islamists to form an “inclusive” transitional government, to allow humanitarian aid workers to operate freely in the country, and to ensure the safety of foreign nationals attempting to flee the country.

“This requires engagement with the Taliban. We are going to see how we can do that in a coordinated manner, putting conditions and, according to the fulfilment of these conditions and according to the kind of government that the Taliban will form and how do they behave, we will be engaging successively with them,” Borrell said.

The Eurocrat said that the diplomatic presence will not come in the form of an embassy, for now, which he noted would amount to political recognition of the Taliban, but rather as a “humanitarian corridor” in order to help provide aid to the people of the country.

Borrell said that it should be seen as a “factual recognition”, explaining: “If you are in power and, certainly, they are in power, we have to recognise the reality.”

He went on to say that the European Union will have to adapt to the new political landscape in the region following President Joe Biden’s botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, saying that Brussels will need to determine how it “affects our relationship and our alliance with the United States” and how the EU will “manage the new regional landscape and the new role for Russia, China, Pakistan, Turkey and India.”

The move from the EU comes as Communist China has sought to become the first major ally of the Taliban regime. On Thursday, Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen announced that Beijing promised to maintain their embassy in Afghanistan following high-level talks with Communist officials.

The Taliban’s deputy leader in Doha, Qatar, Abdul Salam Hanafi, also revealed that they expect massive investments into Afghanistan under the guise of China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), which the communist state has successfully used to trap developing nations into debtor status through Chinese-run infrastructure projects.

“China has been a trustworthy friend of Afghanistan. The Afghan Taliban is willing to continue to promote friendly relations between Afghanistan,” Hanafi said.

The Taliban’s second-in-command added that the BRI “is conducive to the development and prosperity of Afghanistan and the region. Afghanistan hopes to continue to actively support and participate in it.”

Russia has yet to announce that it will politically recognise the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, however President Vladimir Putin said on Friday that Moscow hopes that the Islamist regime will “join the family of civilised nations,” adding that “Russia has no interest in the disintegration of Afghanistan.”

The United Kingdom, which officially broke with the European Union in January, has also signalled a willingness to cooperate with the Taliban in order to maintain stability in the region.

Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said on Friday that while Britain has not recognised the Taliban as the legitimate government, the British government sees “the importance of being able to engage and have a direct line of communication,” adding: “No one wants to see the economic and social fabric of Afghanistan collapse.”

Aside from geopolitical concerns, the move by the EU to re-establish a diplomatic presence in the country comes amid increasing concerns of an Afghan repeat of the 2015 European Migrant Crisis.

Estimates have raised the possibility of up to 3 million migrants from Afghanistan fleeing to Europe, more than that of which came during the previous migrant crisis.

EU ministers have raised the idea of paying off neighbouring countries to Afghanistan to host those fleeing from the Islamist regime, rather than having them come to Europe’s borders. Countries on the eastern external borders of the EU, including Poland, Greece, and Lithuania, among others, have begun constructing border walls in order to stem the flow of migrants.

Taliban to the West: ‘You Should Not Be Changing Our Culture’


Quote:A spokesperson for the Taliban has cautioned the United States regarding potential future interferences with their culture and treatment of women in Afghanistan.

According to Fox News, Taliban spokesperson Suhail Shaheen has advised the U.S. not to attempt to change or manage any cultural practices that the Taliban implements under an impending regime.

Shaheen told Fox News that women should not be educated without a hijab. After stating that women and girls should be required to wear hijabs in the classroom, the spokesperson aimed to appease any Western worries regarding human rights before making the Taliban’s wishes for autonomy on the world stage clear.

“There will be no issue about women’s rights. No problem about their education, their work,” Shaheen stated. “But we should not be after changing each other’s culture as we are not intending to change your culture, you should not be changing our culture.”

The spokesperson recalled the United States’ 20-year occupation in Afghanistan and made clear that a new era in the country has begun. “We have closed one chapter. For us it was occupation,” he began. “We ended that, we were staging resistance. But now that is closed. it is the past. We have to focus on the future that is better for them and for us.”

Shaheen also gave remarks regarding future diplomacy with the United States as he suggested, “we should be focusing how we can work together in a positive and constructive way which is in the best interest of both sides.”

Shaheen’s comments come off of the heels of a Reuters report that outlined a Taliban plan to implement a new government in Afghanistan. Co-founder of the Taliban, Mullah Abdul Ghani Barada, will be the leader of the government once installed and the son of fellow co-founder, Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob, as well as Sher Mohammad Abbas Stanikzai will be granted high-ranking positions.

All other government positions will only be occupied by members of the Taliban, which will entail 25 ministries and a committee of 12 Muslim scholars. As the Taliban prepares to organize a new regime, “all of the top leaders have arrived in Kabul, where preparations are in final stages to announce the new government,” according to an anonymous Taliban source.

The Taliban has an agenda to carry out a grand assembly in the next six to eight months known as a “loya jirga.” The assembly would require the participation of representatives throughout Afghanistan in order to establish a constitution and legitimized government.

Amidst growing uncertainty regarding the future rights of women in the country, dozens of Afghan women organized a demonstration to advocate on behalf of women’s rights close to the presidential palace. The protest came to halt as an armed Taliban member stepped on the scene.

Concerns for women’s rights were echoed by a former female Aghan judge, who faced imminent danger upon the Taliban’s release of prisoners she had previously sentenced to prison terms. The judge, who chose to remain anonymous after fleeing to Europe recalled, “four or five Taliban members came and asked people in my house: ‘Where is this woman judge?’ These were people who I had put in jail.”

Though it remains to be seen exactly what life will be like for Afghan women under a Taliban regime, worrying clues have become apparent.




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The ISI has been funding the taliban fight with US for almost the entire time we were there while receiving billions in aid from the US.

We have been funding the opposition, how is war like that ever going to be won. It just makes the MIC money until someone says enough
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(09-07-2021 06:50 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 11:49 PM)scorpius Wrote:  How anyone can fault Biden for being the first President to finally have the balls to take the heat in physically getting us out of there is totally ridiculous.

So Trump didn’t make him do it?
He came up with the idea himself?
Its not worth anymore of my time, or anyone else here for that matter, responding to your total ignorance.

Trump got the ball rolling likely to help his re-election campaign, but would he have gone through with it if re-elected? Afterall, Bush and Obama also got the ball rolling to get out while they were in office also, but never followed through with it. So history would suggest Trump would have chickened out as well since he didn't have the courage to do it while he was actually in office.

By the way I'm with you that any suggestion of Biden trying to pin this on Trump is pretty stupid since he is insisting he wanted to pull out regardless. But Biden usually only mentions Trump to put in context of when the actual decisions were made and under what conditions. I think it's more the right trying to say Biden is pinning it on Trump than Biden actually doing so.

(09-07-2021 10:21 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  The ISI has been funding the taliban fight with US for almost the entire time we were there while receiving billions in aid from the US.

We have been funding the opposition, how is war like that ever going to be won. It just makes the MIC money until someone says enough

This is why I was dumbfounded as to why we were still over there. But even if that weren't the case, the Taliban were hiding out in Pakistan, which we weren't allowed to enter or control. So it was like where in the Vietnam war the Vietcong were hiding out in Laos, in which we weren't allowed to enter or control. It's a completely unwinnable war unless we have the balls to actually fight and control the area where the enemy is hiding.
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(09-07-2021 07:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.


1. It wasn't Trump's idea. He just made the deal.

2. It was not a success. It was never going to be a success.
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(09-07-2021 03:20 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 07:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.


1. It wasn't Trump's idea. He just made the deal.

2. It was not a success. It was never going to be a success.
How can he make a deal if it wasn't his idea?
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(09-07-2021 03:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:20 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 07:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.


1. It wasn't Trump's idea. He just made the deal.

2. It was not a success. It was never going to be a success.
How can he make a deal if it wasn't his idea?

The deal may have been his idea but getting out of Afghanistan wasn't.

Our leaders have wanted to get out since early on.

Donald Rumesfield famously said we should get out and not care what happens after.

Joe Biden, while he was still Vice President, also urged the Generals to get out.
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(09-08-2021 09:53 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:20 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 07:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.


1. It wasn't Trump's idea. He just made the deal.

2. It was not a success. It was never going to be a success.
How can he make a deal if it wasn't his idea?

The deal may have been his idea but getting out of Afghanistan wasn't.

Our leaders have wanted to get out since early on.

Donald Rumesfield famously said we should get out and not care what happens after.

Joe Biden, while he was still Vice President, also urged the Generals to get out.

Stop.. You clearly are trying to troll but it appears you're too ignorant to do it properly.
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(09-08-2021 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 09:53 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:20 PM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 07:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.


1. It wasn't Trump's idea. He just made the deal.

2. It was not a success. It was never going to be a success.
How can he make a deal if it wasn't his idea?

The deal may have been his idea but getting out of Afghanistan wasn't.

Our leaders have wanted to get out since early on.

Donald Rumesfield famously said we should get out and not care what happens after.

Joe Biden, while he was still Vice President, also urged the Generals to get out.

Stop.. You clearly are trying to troll but it appears you're too ignorant to do it properly.

Educate yourself.

https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/07/donald...ilder.html
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(09-09-2021 09:20 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 12:21 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 09:53 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 03:20 PM)Danforth Wrote:  1. It wasn't Trump's idea. He just made the deal.

2. It was not a success. It was never going to be a success.
How can he make a deal if it wasn't his idea?

The deal may have been his idea but getting out of Afghanistan wasn't.

Our leaders have wanted to get out since early on.

Donald Rumesfield famously said we should get out and not care what happens after.

Joe Biden, while he was still Vice President, also urged the Generals to get out.

Stop.. You clearly are trying to troll but it appears you're too ignorant to do it properly.

Educate yourself.

https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/07/donald...ilder.html
Why do I need to educate myself you seem to think that the botched pull out was all Trump who’s currently a private citizen. Educate yourself.
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(09-07-2021 07:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The left has had two responses to criticism of Afghanistan:

1) It was Trump's idea.
2) It was a smashing success.

So, Trump's idea was a smashing success. Gotcha.


Getting out of Afghanistan wasn't Trump's idea. He just negotiated with the terrorists to make it happen.

It wasn't a smashing success either but it wasn't all bad.
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Top Taliban Members ‘Brawled’ Over Who Should Get Credit For U.S. Withdrawal And Now Two ‘Moderate’ Leaders Are ‘Missing’


Quote:Top Taliban members “brawled” on the floor of the Afghan presidential palace in Kabul, Afghanistan, over which faction — the hardliners or the moderates — should receive credit for the United States’ hasty withdrawal, according to the BBC, and whether the hardliners or the moderates should fill key cabinet positions.

Two top Taliban “moderates,” including the faction’s leader, Mullah Baradar, are also now reportedly missing.

Baradar is rumored to have sparked the clash after “exchang[ing] strong words with hardliner and member of the Haqqani terror network, Khalil ur-Rahman Haqqani, who serves as the new Afghan minister of refugees. Baradar, it seems, has not appeared in public in nearly two weeks, leading to rumors that he was injured or killed following the knock-down-drag-out at the presidential palace.

“Supporters of two rival factions reportedly brawled at the presidential palace in the capital Kabul,” the BBC noted Wednesday. “The dispute came to light after a Taliban co-founder, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, disappeared from view for several days.”

A Taliban source, who refused to be named, “told BBC Pashto that Mr. Baradar and Khalil ur-Rahman Haqqani – the minister for refugees and a prominent figure within the militant Haqqani network – had exchanged strong words, as their followers brawled with each other nearby.”

“The sources said the argument had broken out because Mr. Baradar, the new deputy prime minister, was unhappy about the structure of their interim government,” the BBC continued. “The row also reportedly stemmed from divisions over who in the Taliban should take credit for their victory in Afghanistan.”

Baradar reportedly claimed credit for the victory, pointing out that he improved diplomatic relations with the United States after engaging in peace talks with then-president Donald Trump. The Haqqani network reportedly claimed victory for themselves, noting that they are “associated with some of the most violent attacks that have occurred in Afghanistan against Afghan forces and their Western allies in recent years,” leading to the collapse of Afghan security forces and, by extension, the U.S. withdrawal.

Taliban sources denied reports of a fraction and of the physical altercation.

Baradar has not appeared in public, physically, for more than a week. In an audio recording, a voice, purportedly Baradar, claims the official has been “on trips” and that “we are all well.”

“There are some talks in media,” the voice says. “I had been out on a trip during these days. I had gone somewhere and praises to God we are all well. Some of these media networks do this kind of propaganda and tell such shameful lies. Reject this talk with courage. There are no issues no problems, praises to God. I am assuring you 100%.”

“The last time Baradar was seen was in a fleeting appearance at a Kabul hotel in the first week of September,” CNN reported Wednesday. A Taliban leader told international media that Baradar had gone to meet with the Taliban’s supreme leader and that Baradar was “tired and wanted some rest.”

Oddly, though, the Taliban’s “supreme leader” is also missing. Haibatullah Akhundzada, also a more “moderate” member of the Taliban, has yet to be seen.

“Taliban officials have repeatedly said that the movement’s supreme leader and commander-in-chief, Haibatullah Akhundzada, would soon make a public appearance. He hasn’t — fueling rumors that he is sick or even dead,” CNN noted.

Pretending that leadership is more animated than they truly are is a pastime for the Taliban. The group admitted, back in 2015, that it covered up their founder, Mullah Omar’s, death for more than two years.
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