(09-03-2021 12:00 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:55 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:53 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I have stated my feelings in all the different threads asking same question. If we lose those three we work with ESPN and try to West.
Add
Air Force
Colorado State
Boise St
San Diego State

Work on keeping the AAC as the 6th best conference

Why would those schools want to join? Geographically makes no sense, and I don't think it's enough of a step-up from their current situation to outweigh the bad fit.

With East/West Divisions is it really that bad? Obviously all depends on TV, but if ESPN says we will keep you guys at 7 mil a team based on those additions, isn't the MWC deal closer to 4 mil a team? Nearly doubling your TV revenue, while moving the AAC into solidly the 6th best football conference might be worth it.

I seriously doubt the contract will stay at 7m per school. MW schools arent coming. Theyre already the 6th best conference after defections.

(09-03-2021 11:53 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I have stated my feelings in all the different threads asking same question. If we lose those three we work with ESPN and try to West.
Add
Air Force
Colorado State
Boise St
San Diego State

Work on keeping the AAC as the 6th best conference

Why not go ahead and get Alabama and Clemson while you are at it?

(09-03-2021 12:22 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  You guys are gone, along with UCF and UC. The Texas legislature did their job and elevated another one of the state's universities by throwing their muscle around.

the report yesterday literally said they like houston and it was beyond anything political...

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  The #6 will depend on who the AAC adds. If we're smart and prioritize football above all else I think we can be better than the MWC.

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I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close - kind of)

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  The #6 will depend on who the AAC adds. If we're smart and prioritize football above all else I think we can be better than the MWC.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close)

Appy St. just makes sense for the AAC, on several levels.

(09-03-2021 12:43 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  The #6 will depend on who the AAC adds. If we're smart and prioritize football above all else I think we can be better than the MWC.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close)

Appy St. just makes sense for the AAC, on several levels.

on 1 level... and makes no sense on like 10

(09-03-2021 12:22 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:41 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  Dude...nobody's "gone". At least wait until we see something more substantial than rumors.

You guys are gone, along with UCF and UC. The Texas legislature did their job and elevated another one of the state's universities by throwing their muscle around. It sucks for Memphis, but if the b12 was headquartered in Tennessee I would have expected our legislature to do the same thing.

The divide with the AAC will now grow larger, as three of the four biggest draws are gone and nobody can fully replace them. The upper tier of teams is set and will earn the most money in the future. With the NIL now in place that is the whole point, a semi-pro league centered on colleges.

For the AAC, MWC, etc., we will fall back to be more like what college sports was always supposed to be, with second and third tier athletes sprinkled with the occasional stud. Using the limited funds of the NIL for teams like ours will mean either spreading it out to get a better overall level of player, or concentrating on one or two stars. Many players won't get more than fast-food money, but will play because they love the game.

Nothing would please me more than being wrong about all of this, but I honestly don't think that I am. The differences between CUSA, the AAC, MWC, Sunbelt, will over the long haul become negligible.

It is what it is.

Go ahead and bash away, I'm expecting it, I'm used to it. But this post is not a fishing trip and it's not click bait.

It’s true, nobody’s gone
The B-12 has decided to release this 4 team list to see how much money espn will pay for said teams, what espn decides is anybody’s guess
What the b-12 is doing is fishing and we’re the bait once again...
I hope Tilman tells the b-12 to f**k off once again...

(09-03-2021 11:26 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  My quick take:

1) The P5 will become the P4.

2) The New Big 12 will be a "tweener" league in terms of "power". Will retain Autonomy but fall closer to G-level in terms of TV money and revenue in a new expanded playoff, if contract bowls still exist, will not have one.

3) The AAC will now struggle with the MW to be the second-best G-league after the NB12.

So .... a new pecking order of P4/G6 or P4/T/G5.

No?

Agree for the most part. If the AAC makes a few shrewd adds if we lose teams it can still be a strong league and the 6th best league. There will still be plenty of good football teams in the AAC.

I think Aresco is a smart guy he will figure it out. If the new playoff keeps with auto bids for the 6 best conference champs the AAC will still be in a good position to get its champ in every year.

(09-03-2021 12:35 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:53 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I have stated my feelings in all the different threads asking same question. If we lose those three we work with ESPN and try to West.
Add
Air Force
Colorado State
Boise St
San Diego State

Work on keeping the AAC as the 6th best conference

Why not go ahead and get Alabama and Clemson while you are at it?

LOL you think those are comparable to Alabama and Clemson. Thought GT people were smarter than that.

(09-03-2021 12:30 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:00 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:55 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:53 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I have stated my feelings in all the different threads asking same question. If we lose those three we work with ESPN and try to West.
Add
Air Force
Colorado State
Boise St
San Diego State

Work on keeping the AAC as the 6th best conference

Why would those schools want to join? Geographically makes no sense, and I don't think it's enough of a step-up from their current situation to outweigh the bad fit.

With East/West Divisions is it really that bad? Obviously all depends on TV, but if ESPN says we will keep you guys at 7 mil a team based on those additions, isn't the MWC deal closer to 4 mil a team? Nearly doubling your TV revenue, while moving the AAC into solidly the 6th best football conference might be worth it.

I seriously doubt the contract will stay at 7m per school. MW schools arent coming. Theyre already the 6th best conference after defections.

Ok sure.

(09-03-2021 12:43 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  The #6 will depend on who the AAC adds. If we're smart and prioritize football above all else I think we can be better than the MWC.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close)

Appy St. just makes sense for the AAC, on several levels.

Bigest drawback is Ap St isn't in big town. Boone isn't tiny but not very big either.

I ski in Boone. It’s nice but it’s tiny.

(09-03-2021 12:52 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:43 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close)

Appy St. just makes sense for the AAC, on several levels.

Bigest drawback is Ap St isn't in big town. Boone isn't tiny but not very big either.

If college football had a real playoffs it wouldn’t matter what size their city is or how friggin small their stadium is, i know i don’t give a rats ass about that stupid sh!t
To me it’s only about what they bring to the gridiron

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  The #6 will depend on who the AAC adds. If we're smart and prioritize football above all else I think we can be better than the MWC.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close)

Not really. AppSt is not a research university. AppSt is not even a "national university" as classified by USNWR. Every AAC schools is a "national university". Finding some random academic stat where AppSt is better than one of the two lowest rated AAC schools is not likely to be the academic bar the presidents will be looking for candidates to clear. And understand---I say that as one who thinks AppSt should be one of the 2 teams the AAC looks to add. When I look at who will be doing the voting---I think its very likely that academics will play an outsized role in the decision making---especially if there is little difference in the payout between differing candidates. I can easily see UAB and Buffalo emerging from the AAC expansion process.

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:22 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  You guys are gone, along with UCF and UC. The Texas legislature did their job and elevated another one of the state's universities by throwing their muscle around.

the report yesterday literally said they like houston and it was beyond anything political...

In the end, the why doesn't really matter.

(09-03-2021 12:48 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:35 PM)Ramblin Wreck Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:53 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I have stated my feelings in all the different threads asking same question. If we lose those three we work with ESPN and try to West.
Add
Air Force
Colorado State
Boise St
San Diego State

Work on keeping the AAC as the 6th best conference

Why not go ahead and get Alabama and Clemson while you are at it?

LOL you think those are comparable to Alabama and Clemson. Thought GT people were smarter than that.

I don’t, but the arrogance on this board is comical at times. So many thought the Big 12 schools would join the AAC. MWC was considered as a potential Power conference long before the AAC. I loved the original version of CUSA before the AAC split off. It was a basketball power house along with what would be a good football conference today.

In my view the best additions would be UAB, Buffalo, and UMass for all sports. UConn football only. Dayton, VCU, and St. louis for all sports minus football.

North: UMass, UConn, Temple, Navy, Buffalo, ECU
South: UAB, Memphis, USF, Tulsa, Tulane, SMU

Basketball includes 10 all sports schools above plus Wichita State, St. louis, Dayton, and VCU.

This alignment does the following
1. Gets the conference back into the northeast in football where in there is not a lot of competition.
2. Creates a highly competitive southern division
3. Gets the conference into more metro areas.
4. Improved basketball by adding quality programs with large fan bases.

(09-03-2021 12:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:38 PM)Goronic Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 12:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:38 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  The #6 will depend on who the AAC adds. If we're smart and prioritize football above all else I think we can be better than the MWC.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

I agree that football should be the main factor. Hoops matter but football has to be the big issue. I like:

App State
ULL
Georgia State
UAB

As my first four options. You?

If you look at who's going to be doing the voting---you have 4 highly respected private schools, an academically minded Naval academy, and one public that lies just outside the top 100 USNWR schools. Academics is going to matter a great deal to that 6 team voting bloc. Though I really like the idea of adding AppSt---both ULL and AppSt (and probably Marshall and LaTech as well) are probably DOA. Im thinking Buffalo and UAB may be the schools that can amass the votes needed to grab an invite. Two is all that I suspect will get added.

Interesting take on academics of AAC schools vs App State. I'll just use ECU (same state).

https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/c...university

TLDR:
- The average SAT score at Appalachian State University (1157) is 104 points higher than at ECU (1053)
- Incoming ASU students have a 3 point higher average ACT score (26) than students at ECU (23)
- ECU has a higher acceptance rate (78.7%) than ASU (76.8%)

- Avg High School GPA 4.05 (App) 3.59 (ECU)
- Admissions Standards Difficult (App) Easy (ECU)
- SAT Range 1100/1270 (App) 1040/1190 (ECU)

So we can rule out academics as a missed AAC requirement for App State. It's well known in the state of North Carolina App is harder to get in to. (But to be fair - it is fairly close)

Not really. AppSt is not a research university. AppSt is not even a "national university" as classified by USNWR. Every AAC schools is a "national university". Finding some random academic stat where AppSt is better than one of the two lowest rated AAC schools is not likely to be the academic bar the presidents will looking for candidates to clear. And understand---I say that as one who thinks AppSt should be one of the 2 teams the AAC looks to add. When I look at who will be doing the voting---I think its very likely that academics will play an outsized role in the decision making---especially if there is little difference in the payout between differing candidates. I can easily see UAB and Buffalo emerging from the AAC expansion process.

See what your talking about , why would anything you just said even matter if college football had a real playoffs for all D1 conferences, y’all are so used to the system that you don’t even realize it, like being in the Matrix
my Suggestion is the red pill...

Why would the Big 12 be a "tweener" any more than the PAC12? The Big 12 with the new additions will be top the bottom bigger than the PAC12 and probably squarely on par with the ACC sans Clemson.

There will still be a Power 5 since it's already established, it'll simply be dominated by the SEC with everyone else lagging behind.

(09-03-2021 11:41 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  Dude...nobody's "gone". At least wait until we see something more substantial than rumors.

The OPs title is fake news, misinformation to include “ gone” and she knows better or should know better