(08-28-2021 11:16 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:05 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

Why should he try to mend fences?

Why reassert the allegations? It doesn't serve the B12 imo.

I think the allegations has kept ESPN in check which is why things are so quiet. Also says to me that he has the goods which is why he reasserted the claims. It will be interesting to see if ESPN and Aresco responds but my guess is they won't.

(08-28-2021 01:44 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:16 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:05 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

Why should he try to mend fences?

Why reassert the allegations? It doesn't serve the B12 imo.

I think the allegations has kept ESPN in check which is why things are so quiet. Also says to me that he has the goods which is why he reasserted the claims. It will be interesting to see if ESPN and Aresco responds but my guess is they won't.

Aresco will respond with actions. ESPN controls the situation. Bowlsby doesn't have the 'goods' or a viable lawsuit. He's an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

(08-28-2021 01:44 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:16 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:05 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

Why should he try to mend fences?

Why reassert the allegations? It doesn't serve the B12 imo.

I think the allegations has kept ESPN in check which is why things are so quiet. Also says to me that he has the goods which is why he reasserted the claims. It will be interesting to see if ESPN and Aresco responds but my guess is they won't.

Poor Bob. He must have got the word that ESPN has no interest in his leagues realignment plan. It's been a long month in the life of Bob. FOX has their head in the sand per an Big12 Associate AD. There is always Pluto TV Bob? Go AAC!!!

(08-28-2021 01:44 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:16 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:05 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

Why should he try to mend fences?

Why reassert the allegations? It doesn't serve the B12 imo.

I think the allegations has kept ESPN in check which is why things are so quiet. Also says to me that he has the goods which is why he reasserted the claims. It will be interesting to see if ESPN and Aresco responds but my guess is they won't.

If I were a XII school, I sure as hell would not want my commissioner (who is attached to me) attacking ESPN when ESPN controls the media narrative in the most lucrative college sport.

(08-28-2021 01:44 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:16 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:05 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

Why should he try to mend fences?

Why reassert the allegations? It doesn't serve the B12 imo.

I think the allegations has kept ESPN in check which is why things are so quiet. Also says to me that he has the goods which is why he reasserted the claims. It will be interesting to see if ESPN and Aresco responds but my guess is they won't.

Bowlsby likely has emails in which the value of certain proposed realignment moves involving B12 teams would affect payouts are discussed. He may even have emails where ESPN expresses a preference for various proposed conference combinations. Those are just theoretical "what would it be worth" questions that ESPN answers often. There is nothing wrong with that. Its just information.

What I seriously doubt Bowslby has is any emails or communication where ESPN, SEC, or AAC officials initiate contact actively soliciting a Big12 team to change conferences.

It is difficult to discern the upside for the L8 when their Commissioner continually twists the tail of the Mouse.

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

If he doesn't STFU I will personally start a class action lawsuit against the NCAA, FBS and any team tat ever left the BIG EAST and the Conferences they joined after leaving!!

I have suffered immensely from such actions.

(08-28-2021 12:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:03 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Texas and OU were going to leave eventually. Money talks. Networks werent willing to give pay raises to the conference in its current form. Adding G5 programs wasnt going to tip the balance favorably either.

I always thought TX/OU would prefer being top dogs in a small kennel but I was clearly wrong. Its always about money. Thats why if some of the AAC programs feel money will be better in another conference then theyll leave.

Like I said, he doesn't get a pass from me for being reactive. Texas and Oklahoma weren't the easiest to deal with but you took the commish position and it was your gig to keep it together. But in the end who cares, he'll retire with a full plethora of dough and benefits...

Wrong commissioner, in your little fantasy world you have already left the AAC... Reminds me of the classless way WVU and Rutgers departed the BIG EAST... Classless!

(08-28-2021 01:06 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I will now outline my concerns about what Bowlsby thinks:






Thank you.

The smartest thing that ive hear from a UC fan since 2015!

(08-28-2021 12:21 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I don't doubt that Bowlsby is right about the collusion. I do doubt that he'll ever be able to prove it, though.

He'll be long gone when the next B12 deal is negotiated.

Fact, that deal will be renegotiated by Aresco on behalf of the expanded AAC.

(08-28-2021 02:32 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:03 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Texas and OU were going to leave eventually. Money talks. Networks werent willing to give pay raises to the conference in its current form. Adding G5 programs wasnt going to tip the balance favorably either.

I always thought TX/OU would prefer being top dogs in a small kennel but I was clearly wrong. Its always about money. Thats why if some of the AAC programs feel money will be better in another conference then theyll leave.

Like I said, he doesn't get a pass from me for being reactive. Texas and Oklahoma weren't the easiest to deal with but you took the commish position and it was your gig to keep it together. But in the end who cares, he'll retire with a full plethora of dough and benefits...

Wrong commissioner, in your little fantasy world you have already left the AAC... Reminds me of the classless way WVU and Rutgers departed the BIG EAST... Classless!

Why is it some Memphis fans and Cincy fans have become even more intolerable since this expansion stuff. Houston and UCF fans aren’t like this. I almost wish you’d get invites so you calm the f#ck down! ???

We'll see how things shake out.

(08-28-2021 02:39 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 02:32 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:03 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Texas and OU were going to leave eventually. Money talks. Networks werent willing to give pay raises to the conference in its current form. Adding G5 programs wasnt going to tip the balance favorably either.

I always thought TX/OU would prefer being top dogs in a small kennel but I was clearly wrong. Its always about money. Thats why if some of the AAC programs feel money will be better in another conference then theyll leave.

Like I said, he doesn't get a pass from me for being reactive. Texas and Oklahoma weren't the easiest to deal with but you took the commish position and it was your gig to keep it together. But in the end who cares, he'll retire with a full plethora of dough and benefits...

Wrong commissioner, in your little fantasy world you have already left the AAC... Reminds me of the classless way WVU and Rutgers departed the BIG EAST... Classless!

Why is it some Memphis fans and Cincy fans have become even more intolerable since this expansion stuff. Houston and UCF fans aren’t like this. I almost wish you’d get invites so you calm the f#ck down! ???

Funny thing is that Memphis ain't going no where. Cindy, yeah, everyone is talking it but Memphis? Naw, they CUSA 3.0 4 Life.

(08-28-2021 02:39 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  We'll see how things shake out.

Now that's confidence.

(08-28-2021 02:39 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 02:32 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:03 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Texas and OU were going to leave eventually. Money talks. Networks werent willing to give pay raises to the conference in its current form. Adding G5 programs wasnt going to tip the balance favorably either.

I always thought TX/OU would prefer being top dogs in a small kennel but I was clearly wrong. Its always about money. Thats why if some of the AAC programs feel money will be better in another conference then theyll leave.

Like I said, he doesn't get a pass from me for being reactive. Texas and Oklahoma weren't the easiest to deal with but you took the commish position and it was your gig to keep it together. But in the end who cares, he'll retire with a full plethora of dough and benefits...

Wrong commissioner, in your little fantasy world you have already left the AAC... Reminds me of the classless way WVU and Rutgers departed the BIG EAST... Classless!

Why is it some Memphis fans and Cincy fans have become even more intolerable since this expansion stuff. Houston and UCF fans aren’t like this. I almost wish you’d get invites so you calm the f#ck down! ???

Can someone point me to some posts where UC, UCF, Memphis, et al fans have said they were definitely leaving and that the AAC has been a horrible league? Or are you just parroting the incessant ramblings of a certain delusional Temple fan?

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

He's almost certainly correct, for all the good it'll do him.

(08-28-2021 11:02 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Rather than a "no comment" or "we've moved on" Bowlsby reasserts that there was collusion between the a AC and ESPN. I mean no attempt at all to mend fences LOL

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...cusations/

Well, I guess we now know why the Big 12 won't be adding any schools until Texas and Oklahoma officially make their move to the SEC. Who knew ... "Adding teams could provide them with a legal excuse to leave and get out of their financial obligation?"

I guess everyone mays as well sit tight ...

(08-28-2021 11:44 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  This guy is going to retire sooner than later. The remaining B12 programs have to continue on while he rides into the sunset. He's probably a lame duck commish at this point. I've not been impressed with how all this went down on his watch. If you couldn't see your two biggest brands that were keeping your conference together by a string and you made no efforts to address the situation until after they said publicly they were moving on then I got no sympathy. This comes after the conference was previously raided to take Nebraska, Missouri and TXAM. While that was prior to Bowlsby's tenure, you have to know going in that the conference required constant relationship building and strong leadership. He's got zero credible evidence of collusion and his hurt feelings are out there for all to see. Billy Bobby, do the right thing and step aside for someone who knows how to take the reigns and still has a sack between his legs.


Done more with less.



Did less with more.

Long time lurker and occasional poster, so I mean no disrespect. What I wanted to point out is that the Big12 commish isn’t doing anything unless Texas and Oklahoma first signed off on it, particularly when it came to that whole expansion fiasco back in 2016. Yes it was really f#cked up what they did, but word is that Texas and Oklahoma said “Oh Hell No!” So if you are still upset about that fiasco, and you have every right to be, then I would suggest that perhaps some of your anger be directed at the two schools leaving the Big12 as opposed to the front man they hired to make the announcements. It’s just a thought. No matter what, I wish all your schools the best. Honestly, I’m just glad it’s football season again. God bless.

(08-29-2021 03:43 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  Long time lurker and occasional poster, so I mean no disrespect. What I wanted to point out is that the Big12 commish isn’t doing anything unless Texas and Oklahoma first signed off on it, particularly when it came to that whole expansion fiasco back in 2016. Yes it was really f#cked up what they did, but word is that Texas and Oklahoma said “Oh Hell No!” So if you are still upset about that fiasco, and you have every right to be, then I would suggest that perhaps some of your anger be directed at the two schools leaving the Big12 as opposed to the front man they hired to make the announcements. It’s just a thought. No matter what, I wish all your schools the best. Honestly, I’m just glad it’s football season again. God bless.

No anger from me. That was over five years ago. I just don't hold Billy Bobby in high regard.

(08-28-2021 12:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:05 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-28-2021 12:03 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  Texas and OU were going to leave eventually. Money talks. Networks werent willing to give pay raises to the conference in its current form. Adding G5 programs wasnt going to tip the balance favorably either.

I always thought TX/OU would prefer being top dogs in a small kennel but I was clearly wrong. Its always about money. Thats why if some of the AAC programs feel money will be better in another conference then theyll leave.

Like I said, he doesn't get a pass from me for being reactive. Texas and Oklahoma weren't the easiest to deal with but you took the commish position and it was your gig to keep it together. But in the end who cares, he'll retire with a full plethora of dough and benefits...

Bowlsby has been horrible... i do not want him, he is reactive and scared.. nothing proactive, and some realignment cant be blamed on the commissioner but this one has some blame on him, what triggered the realignment was him trying to force an extend GOR on texas

he had so many options to push innovation on the league but didnt...
up until 2/3 months ago the big 12 was considered drastically better than the pac 12 in all sports, and did absolutely nothing to try and captilize

even now, they are talking about not making an expansion decision for years, despite having a committee this year

the talk lacking markets.... but had the ability to gain markets ... big 12 w/ ou and texas had the power to drastically elevate teams....
look at utah with the pac 12

they could have picked a random g5 and spent the last 10 years elevating them..

The Pac 12 North was even with the Sun Belt East last season. The Sun Belt East was the highest rated non-power conference, but still, they are a glorified G5 football conference in football in every way except for money.