(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

(08-27-2021 06:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

The Vandals are fading while the Broncos are strengthening. UofI had alums with the power on the State Board of Education to surpress Boise State’s rise for many years. Now that the board is finally giving us equal billing (and funding), we’re now progressing rapidly, while they are in decline.

The University of Idaho is the only former FBS school to relegate back to FCS. Why? It became apparent they could not compete with Boise State. If the board allows, the same will be true in the classroom and the endowment coffers.

(08-27-2021 03:53 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  San Diego State is playing it's games in Carson, CA, 2 1/2 hours on a good traffic day from campus.

We are playing in Carson for one more year till our new stadium is finished. We are opening it in the fall of 22.

Stadium Cam.
https://oxblue.com/pro/videoRedirect.php...7ba36d9a75

(08-27-2021 03:02 PM)Reverend Wrote:  Boise state is gonna be in the Big 12. People can complain all they want BYU wants Boise State in, FOX and ESPN both want Boise State in. And they earned it on the field over the last two decades.

Wanna bet?

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(08-27-2021 06:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

It was hurtful to Boise St that Idaho called itself the flagship . So they forced Idaho to stop using the term. Nothing changed Idaho is on track to be R1 soon . With over five times more research than the other three state schools combined. Boise's fan board calls themselves the athletic flagship . Athletically I would put SDSU as an equal to BSU because of basketball . Recruiting and market new stadium would be enough to give SDSU the edge. Academics matter to power conferences so its no contest SDSU . If they take a lower academically ranked team its Memphis. They are better in that category than Boise. The plus for Memphis great support for their level of success and competition. Geography big nice facilities and probably the biggest jump in attendance of any candidate after the move.

(08-27-2021 06:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

Idaho strikes me as a state without a flagship school. It's big school is an open admission urban commuter, and it's namesake is in the back country a zillion miles from everywhere (which is it's neighbor WSU problem as well). Neither is thought of as a very selective school or high level research school, the two key elements one expects in a true flagship.

(08-28-2021 06:12 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

Idaho strikes me as a state without a flagship school. It's big school is an open admission urban commuter, and it's namesake is in the back country a zillion miles from everywhere (which is it's neighbor WSU problem as well). Neither is thought of as a very selective school or high level research school, the two key elements one expects in a true flagship.

From the news articles that I read, Moscow is so small, and it could hurt UI to get the AAU tag. The money for education is flowing to Boise for that reason. That is the advantage that Boise State have over the University of Idaho. Boise State is growing faster while Idaho lost their flavor in the state.

(08-27-2021 02:18 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  BOISE & SDSU are not in the BIG12 Expansion talks IMHO. Top four are BYU, Cinci, UCF, Houston... The next two would be USF & Memphis IMHO

Not an unreasonable list.

Which of Boise St and SDSU are ahead of the other in the "never in the running" list is kind of a moot point.

The first two coming from those four seems short odds, and the first two coming from those six seems like 90%+

Indeed, even if the media consultants say that there is a second pair that adds enough value to include, the odds the four come from that list also seems like 90%+

(08-28-2021 06:12 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

Idaho strikes me as a state without a flagship school. It's big school is an open admission urban commuter, and it's namesake is in the back country a zillion miles from everywhere (which is it's neighbor WSU problem as well). Neither is thought of as a very selective school or high level research school, the two key elements one expects in a true flagship.

Idaho is similar to other small state flagship schools . Like The Montana and Dakota schools Maine . Idaho has had over a hundred million in research every year since their new research center opened. Idaho St is starting a vet school . Boise has made improvements going from regional to national unranked. They were regional and equal to Idaho St when they cried about Idaho being the flagship. Idaho St was a branch of Idaho and is bigger than Idaho. If Idaho wanted a P5 school they would have one University like Wyoming. They could have left Boise junior college a junior college. Created a Boise campus of Idaho and moved athletics to that campus. Idaho has history of being conference mates with most Pac 12 schools . A three campus U of I with 50k total students 20k in Boise. Lose the stupid blue rug win the same in football maybe the Big 12 would take them. But that is not how they did it so no P5 for the state of Idaho.

(08-27-2021 06:10 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 06:04 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 05:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Idaho is still the Flagship. And the Flagship of a tiny state doesn't mean much

Wrong. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesm...ontent=amp

Interesting. But Boise isn't the unofficial or official flagship, and Idaho is still the Land Grant.

Anyone outside of Idaho would view U of Idaho as the Premier institution, no matter what the Blue-ruggers think

Absolutely true in my experience.

If the Big 12 is keeping its auto-status then BYU should jump in. At that point Cincinnati & Houston make sense. Don't be surprised with the BYU addition, then Colorado State gets the last invite.

BYU could be number one in their state .
I like Cincinnati as a solid number two in a big state.
Beyond those two I like one each from the ACC and MWC.
I think the Big 12 could be stronger as a national conference .
They have that ability because their in the center of the country.
Yes the East has the people but they also have 3 of the other 4 power conferences.

(08-28-2021 03:53 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  It was hurtful to Boise St that Idaho called itself the flagship . So they forced Idaho to stop using the term. Nothing changed Idaho is on track to be R1 soon . With over five times more research than the other three state schools combined. ...

The state of Idaho can't stop out Academics who work at Universities outside of Idaho from calling Idaho the flagship.

Idaho is the flagship.

See? They couldn't stop me.

BRB, there's someone knocking at my door ...

I think Boise is a lot more valauable than many around here seem to think. They have a national brand. Maybe the only G5 that does.

(08-29-2021 07:31 PM)Realignment Wrote:  If the Big 12 is keeping its auto-status then BYU should jump in. At that point Cincinnati & Houston make sense. Don't be surprised with the BYU addition, then Colorado State gets the last invite.

This is the combo that makes sense to me too. Houston/Memphis/UCF (in that order) are kinda all vying for that final spot. I feel like CSU solidifies BYU, which is priority 1 for the Big 12.

(08-27-2021 03:26 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-27-2021 02:16 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  SDSU should have joined the AAC when they had the invite. They would be in a much better position today.

Not really

I’m torn on this one. Yes for football enhancement. No for the ollies. Even if the Big West would fit like a glove, SDSU would benefit seeing Houston, UCF, and Cincy football.