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ACC exploring possible move from original home of Greensboro
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Interesting post….Thanks for sharing

I find it interesting Jim Delaney is working for an ACC consultant.

“Newmark, a Texas-based real estate advisory firm, is evaluating the ACC’s location. Former Power Five commissioners Kevin Weiberg (Big 12) and Jim Delany (Big Ten) are assessing matters such as governance, budgets, staffing, revenue generation and branding.”

As for the conference office location, I like Atlanta or New York but knowing league politics, if it moves at all it will be to Charlotte.

I knew Phillips was going to quickly make his mark. I’m just surprised the way he has started.
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RE: ACC exploring possible move from original home of Greensboro
(08-26-2021 04:44 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://richmond.com/sports/college/teel...d3995.html

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Great Find Terp. From the article:

“He knows it’s unsettling for the staff,” said North Carolina athletic director Bubba Cunningham, the 2021-22 chairman of the league’s ADs. “He’s been very complimentary of, and open with, the staff. But I think the reality of 15 schools, many of them from the Big East, they don’t quite understand or appreciate the history of the league, the founding of it in Greensboro, and so, he owes it to them to explore. Now, I’m very biased in what I hope the outcome is, [staying in Greensboro], but I think it’s a fair thing to do for the membership.”




If the league offices end up leaving NC, Phillips will become the most hated man in NC, lol.
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RE: ACC exploring possible move from original home of Greensboro
(08-26-2021 05:12 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(08-26-2021 04:44 PM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  https://richmond.com/sports/college/teel...d3995.html

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Great Find Terp. From the article:

“He knows it’s unsettling for the staff,” said North Carolina athletic director Bubba Cunningham, the 2021-22 chairman of the league’s ADs. “He’s been very complimentary of, and open with, the staff. But I think the reality of 15 schools, many of them from the Big East, they don’t quite understand or appreciate the history of the league, the founding of it in Greensboro, and so, he owes it to them to explore. Now, I’m very biased in what I hope the outcome is, [staying in Greensboro], but I think it’s a fair thing to do for the membership.”




If the league offices end up leaving NC, Phillips will become the most hated man in NC, lol.

Yeah. I don’t think that Cunningham’s quote is helpful.

Chances are that Greensboro makes sense, and Charlotte would be the next in line. Pushing back on the process, from the start, doesn’t help the conference.
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It makes budgetary sense to move it to an air hub. The ACC probably pays a not insignificant penalty in airfare by starting in at Piedmont Triad.

In that vein: Charlotte, NC. Reston, VA. If the league office moves to Atlanta, GA then maybe there's something to an ACC-SEC merger.
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If Phillips tries to move the ACC headquarters especially after his milquetoast performance during the "alliance" press conference, he won't have his current position much longer, or he won't have the full compliment of current ACC membership to work with.05-mafia
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(08-26-2021 05:26 PM)XLance Wrote:  If Phillips tries to move the ACC headquarters especially after his milquetoast performance during the "alliance" press conference, he won't have his current position much longer, or he won't have the full compliment of current ACC membership to work with.05-mafia


Maybe Jim is exactly the man for this job after all.
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Confronting a question that has long simmered internally, one fraught with sentiment and politics, the Atlantic Coast Conference is formally exploring whether to move from its original home of Greensboro, N.C., the Richmond Times-Dispatch has learned.

That appraisal is part of what new ACC commissioner Jim Phillips calls “a holistic and transparent review” of the league’s structure, which the conference has outsourced to a pair of consulting groups.

Newmark, a Texas-based real estate advisory firm, is evaluating the ACC’s location. Former Power Five commissioners Kevin Weiberg (Big 12) and Jim Delany (Big Ten) are assessing matters such as governance, budgets, staffing, revenue generation and branding.

The two consulting teams are working simultaneously, meeting with staff members, campus leadership and Greensboro officials (Newmark only). Phillips expects their recommendations by mid-November.

“If you’re going to do an assessment, I have a responsibility to do it in a complete manner,” Phillips said in an exclusive interview, “and it wouldn’t be complete unless we looked at [potential relocation] as well. … Greensboro has been amazing. I’ve loved it. The community’s fantastic, the office is great, the location of the office is great.

“But … it can’t just be the emotional tie. It has to make a lot of sense.”

On Feb. 1, Phillips succeeded the longest-tenured commissioner (24 years) in ACC history, John Swofford. He is the first of the conference’s five commissioners not to have a direct ACC connection — he worked at league member Notre Dame when the Fighting Irish competed in the Big East.

But Phillips quickly immersed himself in a history lesson that dates to the conference’s 1953 founding in Greensboro. He also learned that a possible move has been discussed in ACC circles for years, especially among more recent members geographically and emotionally removed from the league’s roots.

Comprised of the conference’s presidents and chancellors, the ACC’s board of directors encouraged Phillips to undertake this comprehensive review.

“We wanted to provide the new commissioner with the resources necessary to think carefully whether the conference is built to succeed,” said Duke president Vincent Price, who chairs the board of directors.

Regarding a possible move, Price said: “I will say as a resident of North Carolina [that] I have my own personal views about the desirability of recognizing that traditional heart of the conference being here in this region, and I know that certainly will be among the factors we consider. … [But] I enter this decision about the conference review with an open mind, and I think all of us approach it this way.”

Greensboro Mayor Nancy Vaughan understands the city’s affection for the ACC like few others. Her father, the late Fred Barakat, was the conference’s associate commissioner for men’s basketball and managed the league tournament for 16 years until his 2007 retirement.

“Through [Barakat’s] passion and advocacy, as a family we are just totally in on the ACC and all the teams,” Vaughan said. “I’ve been wearing ACC gear since 1989. It is definitely something I feel strongly attached to, not only as mayor, but as a fan and family member. …

“I really appreciate that Commissioner Phillips has been completely transparent during this process. … Obviously the ACC is very important to the city of Greensboro and Guilford County. The ACC has grown and thrived here since 1953 and can continue to grow and thrive in our community.”

Since the ACC rarely hosts league meetings in Greensboro — pre-COVID, annual fall gatherings rotated among the 15 campuses, with winter and spring meetings in Florida — its calculation will center on business rather than accessibility.

“Should [conference headquarters] be aligned with media opportunities?” Phillips said. “Should it be aligned with Fortune 100, 200, 500 companies? Should it be aligned with corporate sponsorship opportunities? Should it be aligned with a city that could host championships or does host championships? …

“That’s what needs to be looked at. Are we leaving some money out there? Are we leaving some branding out there? Are we leaving some exposure out there? … In the end, we have to do what’s best for the conference.”

Phillips said the ACC would evaluate options only if Newmark recommends a move and that the final decision rests with the league’s membership.

The most mentioned alternative is Charlotte, about 90 miles southwest of Greensboro and home to the conference’s football championship game and annual preseason football gathering. Charlotte occasionally hosts the ACC men’s basketball tournament and houses an ESPN studio complex.

Other options could include the largest markets in the ACC footprint: New York, Boston, Washington D.C., and Atlanta.

“This is a review of Greensboro,” Phillips said. “This isn’t, hey, let’s go play footsie with somebody else. … I have not talked to one [other] city, not one. … I have not wanted to taint the process. … It’s too important to too many people to do anything less.”

A former athletic director at Northern Illinois and Northwestern, Phillips conducted initial evaluations at both of those schools, absent the relocation piece. But although new CEOs often assess the enterprise, Phillips understands the sensitivities for legions, including his staff and their families.

“The location thing is hard,” he said. “It’s hard. It’s just really hard. I know what May 8, 1953 means. I know what it means at Sedgefield Country Club, and I know the history of Greensboro and the ACC.”

An offshoot of the Southern Conference, the ACC was founded at Sedgefield on the date Phillips referenced and has called Greensboro home since. The city has hosted the league’s signature event, the men’s basketball tournament, a record 28 times, plus 21 women’s basketball tournaments and dozens of conference championships in Olympic sports such as swimming and golf.

Thanks in large measure to the city’s ACC connection, Greensboro Coliseum hosted 63 NCAA Division I men’s basketball tournament games from 1974-2012, third-most of any arena during that span. The NCAA has since awarded first- and second-round games to Greensboro for 2023.

Opened in 2011, the ACC’s Hall of Champions museum resides in the coliseum complex.

“We always want to be in the mix, no matter what happens, for [ACC] tournament play,” Vaughan said. “I think we have some of the best facilities in the country, and our staff puts on a great tournament, no matter what the [sport] is, and it’s all about the ACC. …

“We have invested in facilities specifically that would lead to more tournaments, more functions. We’ve got the largest aquatic center in the country right now. I’d say it’s the best. We’ve got a premier coliseum, we’ve got wonderful baseball and golf facilities.”

Vaughan said she is scheduled to meet with Newmark officials in early September and will enlist other civic and business leaders to help present Greensboro’s case.

“Newmark won’t be familiar with Greensboro and Guilford County,” Vaughan said, “and I think it’s important for them to realize that we are not a small town.”

The ACC has changed Greensboro addresses several times, always in cramped spaces until moving to its current office, near the Grandover Resort, in 1997. The conference owns the 18,500-square foot building, which Guilford County appraises for $2,755,100.

The late Gene Corrigan served as commissioner from 1987-97 and took over a headquarters on Battleground Avenue. His son Boo, North Carolina State’s athletic director, applauded Greensboro but wants “whatever is best for the conference.”

“It’s really a tribute to Jim’s style,” Corrigan said. “He’s done a great job with being inclusive and, quite frankly, having hard conversations, telling people, ‘Here’s where we are, and here’s our thought-out approach as to what we’re going to do.’

“So many things have changed since Commissioner Swofford took over [in 1997]. So it’s probably a good thing to go through a full review, and the best time to do that is on your way in the door.”

Before starting the review, Phillips informed his staff of approximately 50. Then he connected with Vaughan, followed by athletic directors, senior women’s administrators and athletic faculty representatives at member schools.

In a lengthy email to the membership obtained by The Times-Dispatch, Phillips wrote of a “fiduciary responsibility to ensure that remaining headquartered in Greensboro is what is in the best long-term interests of the conference and of our 15 member institutions.”

“He knows it’s unsettling for the staff,” said North Carolina athletic director Bubba Cunningham, the 2021-22 chairman of the league’s ADs. “He’s been very complimentary of, and open with, the staff. But I think the reality of 15 schools, many of them from the Big East, they don’t quite understand or appreciate the history of the league, the founding of it in Greensboro, and so, he owes it to them to explore. Now, I’m very biased in what I hope the outcome is, [staying in Greensboro], but I think it’s a fair thing to do for the membership.”

The ACC’s potential move spilled into public view Aug. 12 at a breakfast sponsored by the Wyndham Championship golf tournament — the PGA Tour event was played at Sedgefield that week — and attended by Phillips, Swofford and their wives. The event’s emcee, High Point University president Nido Qubein, good-naturedly asked Phillips to take a solemn vow not to relocate the conference.

Phillips deftly side-stepped the matter, according to sources at the breakfast.

“Transparency matters,” Phillips said in the interview. “No predetermined outcomes. … I owe that to my staff. I owe it to the membership. I owe it to the city on the location piece. … So there have been no secrets, and nobody’s been surprised about any of it. …

“It’s not pleasant or easy. But it’s a responsibility of the new commissioner, and I can’t walk away from that.”
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(08-26-2021 05:28 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(08-26-2021 05:26 PM)XLance Wrote:  If Phillips tries to move the ACC headquarters especially after his milquetoast performance during the "alliance" press conference, he won't have his current position much longer, or he won't have the full compliment of current ACC membership to work with.05-mafia


Maybe Jim is exactly the man for this job after all.

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I would have no problem with the largest and most accessible City in N C being the HQ of the ACC. IF not, then Atlanta. Both are serious communications centers.
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(08-26-2021 05:24 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It makes budgetary sense to move it to an air hub. The ACC probably pays a not insignificant penalty in airfare by starting in at Piedmont Triad.

In that vein: Charlotte, NC. Reston, VA. If the league office moves to Atlanta, GA then maybe there's something to an ACC-SEC merger.

You think so? You must not fly out of Charlotte very much.

What does the conference gain by moving to a Pro Town like Charlotte, Atlanta, or DC?

There are now more people in Wake County - home of Raleigh, than there are in Mecklenburg home of Charlotte. But the point is that Charlotte is not much of a step up from Greensboro.
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(08-26-2021 06:33 PM)Statefan Wrote:  
(08-26-2021 05:24 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It makes budgetary sense to move it to an air hub. The ACC probably pays a not insignificant penalty in airfare by starting in at Piedmont Triad.

In that vein: Charlotte, NC. Reston, VA. If the league office moves to Atlanta, GA then maybe there's something to an ACC-SEC merger.

You think so? You must not fly out of Charlotte very much.

What does the conference gain by moving to a Pro Town like Charlotte, Atlanta, or DC?

There are now more people in Wake County - home of Raleigh, than there are in Mecklenburg home of Charlotte. But the point is that Charlotte is not much of a step up from Greensboro.

I flew out of KCLT until Southwest forced price competition at KGSP. KCLT is cheaper to fly out of PARTICULARLY FOR BUSINESS. If you're a leisure traveler booking months in advance yea Piedmont Triad might be competitive or even cheaper. But that's a different universe from business travel, typically booked on short notice and with high sensitivity to departure/arrival times.
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The RTP should be the home of the ACC - access to RDU airport, fastest growing part of NC, wealthiest, best educated, etc. However I realize that UNC's and Duke's physical proximity makes that impossible, but be aware, move it to Charlotte and you will have landed in a UNC/Duke town and will not achieve the goal of distancing them from the office.
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(08-26-2021 07:45 PM)Statefan Wrote:  The RTP should be the home of the ACC - access to RDU airport, fastest growing part of NC, wealthiest, best educated, etc. However I realize that UNC's and Duke's physical proximity makes that impossible, but be aware, move it to Charlotte and you will have landed in a UNC/Duke town and will not achieve the goal of distancing them from the office.

Yeah, Charlotte might not be enough distance. Maybe somewhere in Virginia? NYC might be a bridge too far.
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(08-26-2021 07:45 PM)Statefan Wrote:  The RTP should be the home of the ACC - access to RDU airport, fastest growing part of NC, wealthiest, best educated, etc. However I realize that UNC's and Duke's physical proximity makes that impossible, but be aware, move it to Charlotte and you will have landed in a UNC/Duke town and will not achieve the goal of distancing them from the office.

Yeah, Charlotte might not be enough distance. Maybe somewhere in Virginia? NYC might be a bridge too far.

Reston, VA is right by Dulles. And where it is "cheap"-ish to be in NoVA, effectively DC.
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What difference does it make where the conference office is? It's not like members regularly go there. Every meeting seems to be at a Florida resort. I don't think the office location defines the conference.

The SEC being in Birmingham doesn't seem to have held them back. Moving the office is a distraction and a waste of money.
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(08-26-2021 08:18 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  What difference does it make where the conference office is? It's not like members regularly go there. Every meeting seems to be at a Florida resort. I don't think the office location defines the conference.

The SEC being in Birmingham doesn't seem to have held them back. Moving the office is a distraction and a waste of money.

I think it's of paramount importance to get away from Greensboro. Swofford, a blithering idiot, ran the conference like a country club rather than a business and it's set us back by decades. Purge his regime completely. Leave no trace.
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Plausible ACC HQ Sites:

Raleigh CMSA
46.9% with at least a BA
20% with post grad
2.1 M
12.6% Foreign Born
NC State, UNC, Duke in metro
Med Schools – 2
Other Universities – NC Central, Meredith
Pro Teams – Carolina Hurricanes
ACC schools in 3 hour drive – NCSU, UVA, VT, Duke, WF, UNC
3.5 seasons – very mild winter

Charlotte CMSA
36.2 % with at least a BA
2.6 M
12% with post grad
11% Foreign Born
No P-5 in Metro
Med School 0 (WF building one)
Other Universities – UNC Charlotte
Pro Teams – Carolina Panthers, Charlotte Hornets
ACC schools in 3 hour drive time CU, UNC, WF, Duke, NCSU, VT
3. 5 seasons – very mild winter

Greensboro CMSA
27.8% with at least a BA
1.6 M
10% with post grad
8 % Foreign Born
WF in metro
Med Schools – 0
Other Universities – UNC-G, Winston Salem State, NC A&T, Guilford College, Greensboro College
Pro Teams – 0
ACC schools in 3 hour drive time – NCSU, UNC, Duke, WF, VT, UVa
3.5 Seasons – mild winter

Atlanta CMSA
40% with at least a BA
6 M
15% with post grad
11% Foreign Born
GT and UGa in metro
Med Schools – 2
Other Universities, Emory, Spellman, Morehouse
Pro Teams – Atlanta Falcons, Atlanta Braves, Atlanta Hawks
ACC schools in 3 hour drive time – GT, Clemson
3 seasons – winter? sometimes

DC/NOVA CMSA
51.4% with at least a BA
25% post grad
6.2 M
23% Foreign Born
MD in metro
Med Schools – 4
Other Universities Georgetown, GW, American, George Mason
Pro Teams – Washington Redskins, Washington Nationals, Washington Wizards, Washington Capitals
ACC schools in 3 hour drive time - Va
True 4 seasons – variable winter


I listed variables that might matter when it comes to the place of college sports in the region and the region's people. Atlanta is a Pro and SEC town. I would rather take an ass whipp'n that drive to Atlanta for any reason. DC is somewhat better but not past the mixing bowl in Arlington. Greensboro is a former mill town, so is Charlotte and so is Durham (part of Raleigh CMSA). Now if you are talking about Dulles and that part of NOVA, what is actually on side of the Potomac that is not in Raleigh other than the Pentagon, Arlington Cemetery, and CIA HQ?

I get that Phillips is missing Chicago and Greensboro is dull by most any standard. If you are moving to get the ACC away from Duke and UNC control, you will not get that in Charlotte. You have a better chance in Raleigh and perhaps the best chance in DC/NOVA. I don't think we gain by moving to a pro town with pro town media. Consider that the best source of ACC news is found in Richmond via Dave Teel who used to be in Roanoke.

In 30 years the Raleigh CMSA will be the dominate region between Atlanta and DC, something to consider.
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(08-26-2021 07:45 PM)Statefan Wrote:  The RTP should be the home of the ACC - access to RDU airport, fastest growing part of NC, wealthiest, best educated, etc. However I realize that UNC's and Duke's physical proximity makes that impossible, but be aware, move it to Charlotte and you will have landed in a UNC/Duke town and will not achieve the goal of distancing them from the office.

Yeah, Charlotte might not be enough distance. Maybe somewhere in Virginia? NYC might be a bridge too far.

I would suggest that only NC State people can keep an eye on Duke and UNC people. They are the only people in the ACC with the technical skills and the deserved paranoia to keep watch. 04-cheers
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(08-26-2021 08:18 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  What difference does it make where the conference office is? It's not like members regularly go there. Every meeting seems to be at a Florida resort. I don't think the office location defines the conference.

The SEC being in Birmingham doesn't seem to have held them back. Moving the office is a distraction and a waste of money.

Swofford was pushed out by schools not named Duke, UNC, and UVa, As you can tell by the posts here, folks attached to Syracuse, Louisville, and FSU have a very difficult time dealing with or accepting the inbred nature of the "club" of which the City of Greensboro and Jamestown more particular are the epitome on the local level. Just because Swofford is gone, does not mean the old cabal is not still entrenched at office.

By the way, a move to NOVA/DC might be appealing to future potential ACC schools who are now run by folks in Chicago, Ann Arbor, Madison, and Minneapolis. Just sayin'.03-shhhh
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