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RE: AAC Chief says, "we should be in the alliance too"
(08-26-2021 01:34 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(08-26-2021 01:05 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I have a 6-pack of PBR. I should be in the Alliance too.

Ah, PBR - among the very best of the cheap beers.

My mom loved PBR. Unfortunately I've been to Bavaria and the Czech Republic. Their €1 bier is more like our $3 beer.
08-27-2021 01:23 AM
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RE: AAC Chief says, "we should be in the alliance too"
So maybe we are looking at this all wrong.
If the SEC will have a 16 team voting block vs an Alliance scheduling/voting block of 41 (plus 1 being ND I assume), then why wouldn’t the rabbit hole go in the logical direction that:
A.) The B12 (8), AAC (11), MWC (11), SBC (10), CUSA (14), MAC (12) create a 66 member alliance to protect their own self interests
B.) or any number of combinations of conferences that out numbers the Alliance and SEC
C.) or the SEC conspires with ESPN to “groom” two other conferences to work, schedule, and vote for a new playoff system along with them that trumps the new Alliance.
This may be a golden opportunity for the G5 conferences to leverage the suits for more money and seats at the power table.
The big dogs need us to get what they want. Otherwise the whole system implodes.
08-27-2021 06:31 AM
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The Pac 12‘s decision to stand Pat really does seem to force the issue with the Big12. I don’t see how they can stay at eight teams and be relevant in today’s alignment. Their only chance, and one which absolutely destroys the relevance of the AAC, is to add 2 to 4 teams from either the AAC or MWC, ( if I were guessing I’d say that Cincinnati and Houston are givens. Next up would 2 from either of the two conferences) and move forward. If that occurs, then I see a likelihood that the big 12 remains a relevant, albeit a fifth place conference, in the P5. Hard to see any scenario where the Big 12 stands at 8.
08-27-2021 07:20 AM
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The Big 12 has Autonomous status. That alone ensures its shell will remain relevant unless the Alliance and SEC just decide to do their own thing completely. I dont think we are anywhere close to that yet
08-27-2021 11:27 AM
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RE: AAC Chief says, "we should be in the alliance too"
(08-27-2021 06:31 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  So maybe we are looking at this all wrong.
If the SEC will have a 16 team voting block vs an Alliance scheduling/voting block of 41 (plus 1 being ND I assume), then why wouldn’t the rabbit hole go in the logical direction that:
A.) The B12 (8), AAC (11), MWC (11), SBC (10), CUSA (14), MAC (12) create a 66 member alliance to protect their own self interests
B.) or any number of combinations of conferences that out numbers the Alliance and SEC
C.) or the SEC conspires with ESPN to “groom” two other conferences to work, schedule, and vote for a new playoff system along with them that trumps the new Alliance.
This may be a golden opportunity for the G5 conferences to leverage the suits for more money and seats at the power table.
The big dogs need us to get what they want. Otherwise the whole system implodes.

The problem with that the Big 12 would have to say they are a G5 conference. I think they want to market themselves as a P5 conference and from a self interest both the alliance and SEC gain more from having the Big 12 still around as the weakest P5.
08-27-2021 11:29 AM
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(08-27-2021 11:29 AM)46566 Wrote:  
(08-27-2021 06:31 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  So maybe we are looking at this all wrong.
If the SEC will have a 16 team voting block vs an Alliance scheduling/voting block of 41 (plus 1 being ND I assume), then why wouldn’t the rabbit hole go in the logical direction that:
A.) The B12 (8), AAC (11), MWC (11), SBC (10), CUSA (14), MAC (12) create a 66 member alliance to protect their own self interests
B.) or any number of combinations of conferences that out numbers the Alliance and SEC
C.) or the SEC conspires with ESPN to “groom” two other conferences to work, schedule, and vote for a new playoff system along with them that trumps the new Alliance.
This may be a golden opportunity for the G5 conferences to leverage the suits for more money and seats at the power table.
The big dogs need us to get what they want. Otherwise the whole system implodes.

The problem with that the Big 12 would have to say they are a G5 conference. I think they want to market themselves as a P5 conference and from a self interest both the alliance and SEC gain more from having the Big 12 still around as the weakest P5.

Even so, the B12 existing provides renewed interest from the SEC as a scheduling and voting partner to counter what the Alliance has now created. This has disrupted their playoff and membership expansion plan.
Would the BIG12 bringing the MWC and American into a third Alliance make them look small time or is there power in numbers? It seems to me the SEC would want to curry favor with all the remaining conferences, otherwise their Champion will forever be 10-2 after playing a full SEC schedule.
08-27-2021 02:03 PM
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RE: AAC Chief says, "we should be in the alliance too"
Aresco really is a megalomaniac.
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(08-27-2021 06:31 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  So maybe we are looking at this all wrong.
If the SEC will have a 16 team voting block vs an Alliance scheduling/voting block of 41 (plus 1 being ND I assume), then why wouldn’t the rabbit hole go in the logical direction that:
A.) The B12 (8), AAC (11), MWC (11), SBC (10), CUSA (14), MAC (12) create a 66 member alliance to protect their own self interests
B.) or any number of combinations of conferences that out numbers the Alliance and SEC
C.) or the SEC conspires with ESPN to “groom” two other conferences to work, schedule, and vote for a new playoff system along with them that trumps the new Alliance.
This may be a golden opportunity for the G5 conferences to leverage the suits for more money and seats at the power table.
The big dogs need us to get what they want. Otherwise the whole system implodes.

Good point but you forget that the people running these schools (Presidents, ADs, Coaches, etc) are idiots or else they'd be at real schools.
08-27-2021 03:05 PM
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RE: AAC Chief says, "we should be in the alliance too"
His direct quote isn't as bad as you think. It's still funny.

I don't know what it is, but whatever it is we should be a part of it. P6.

Quote:"The Alliance, there's not much I want to say about it because I don't know what it is at this point," Aresco told The Athletic on Wednesday. "It's hard to tell what it is. But I can say this: This is exactly the kind of thing where we're not involved in that, and we should (be), in my view. This is what has been wrong with the governance for quite some time, that a conference like ours is not involved in that kind of thing.

"Whether we would have been part of it or not, I have no idea. I'm not sure what they're doing, necessarily, I don't know. No one does, right? They don't even know what's involved in it yet. You don't know what positions they're going to take. You don't know what they'll do with scheduling. … There are question marks about it, and I'm not prepared to analyze it, because I don't know what it involves."

"You have to be alert and there has to be a concern, but in talking to at least one of those commissioners, they're going to continue to play us," he said. "I don't think you'll see one of those P5-only protocols, I think you'll see games against us, and I hope we'll be P6 down the road."
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(08-27-2021 03:05 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  
(08-27-2021 06:31 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  So maybe we are looking at this all wrong.
If the SEC will have a 16 team voting block vs an Alliance scheduling/voting block of 41 (plus 1 being ND I assume), then why wouldn’t the rabbit hole go in the logical direction that:
A.) The B12 (8), AAC (11), MWC (11), SBC (10), CUSA (14), MAC (12) create a 66 member alliance to protect their own self interests
B.) or any number of combinations of conferences that out numbers the Alliance and SEC
C.) or the SEC conspires with ESPN to “groom” two other conferences to work, schedule, and vote for a new playoff system along with them that trumps the new Alliance.
This may be a golden opportunity for the G5 conferences to leverage the suits for more money and seats at the power table.
The big dogs need us to get what they want. Otherwise the whole system implodes.

Good point but you forget that the people running these schools (Presidents, ADs, Coaches, etc) are idiots or else they'd be at real schools.

Aren't some people there because they're on their way up the ladder? Nobody STARTS at the top.
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