Biggest LOL if PAC winds up taking OSU anyway because it’s of the few left they’d want.

Honestly, though…hard to take this rumor seriously. I got the impression track work was laid for Kansas to the PAC. I do think the PAC scores this one. I think PAC takes a TX school, too…but I don’t know who. TCU would actually make PAC football quite interesting…

>>>2) PAC has traditionally expanded with land grant schools. Arizona, Utah, Colorado.

CU is not a land grant school. CSU is.

(08-25-2021 03:56 PM)PlayBall! Wrote:  >>>2) PAC has traditionally expanded with land grant schools. Arizona, Utah, Colorado.

CU is not a land grant school. CSU is.

And Utah isn’t either, Utah State is.

Everything seems to point to Pac 12 announcing this week they will keep their name and their number. Just because they are in alliance with the Big 10 doesn't mean they will choose to become similarly mathematically challenged.

(08-24-2021 11:02 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(08-24-2021 10:06 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(08-24-2021 09:52 PM)Shox Wrote:  

(08-24-2021 05:33 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(08-24-2021 03:53 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  WVU to Acc makes some sense.
Kansas and Iowa St to Big 10 makes sense but isn't needed nor needed immediately.

OSU and KSu are top performers in the B12 but why wouldn't the PAC get at least one Texas school?

Speculation is that TT, TCU and Baylor know that they are going to be picked up by one of the power conferences. They just don't know which school is going where yet

So one idea is that the Big Ten, ACC and PAC all end up with 16 schools. So if Baylor goes to the ACC, then TT and TCU go to the PAC.

Another idea is that the SEC might be involved and might be picking up 2 more teams, which might be TT, TCU or Baylor.

Some other speculation out there is that the PAC wants Tech but doesn't want to deal with the Texas politics of the last go round. The thought is they take KSU, OSU, plus a wildcard (Houston, UNLV, etc) and then pick up Tech with the final slot.

If 6 of the remaining 8 leave could Baylor and TCU invite members from the AAC/MWC/Indy to keep the Big XII name, bids, etc alive? Would that keep them on record as an A5 conference? What are the "politics" around that?

It is my understanding that it takes 8 votes to dissolve the conference. If 6 of the 8 remaining members leave, that brings a total of 8 votes (including OU and Texas) to dissolve the conference. The Grant of Rights and exit fees would therefore become void.

I don't see a scenario where an Alliance conference adds B12 members. I'm afraid the remaining 8 are stuck.

Ah, but once you announce you're leaving you can no longer vote...

Wannstedt's credibility is shot when he suggests the Pac would take Kansas State over any of the Texas schools.

no chance, no how.

Ok State? Yes, they are the best of the lot remaining in the Big8 (save for maybe Kansas because of hoops but they are likely Big10 bound)

but Texas Tech is an infinitely better add than Kansas State.
they spent 30+ years in a conference with Arizona and Arizona State, so there is some history there.

and it is a natural progression from AZ to TX to OK.

Pac Rainy/Wet Division - Wash/Wash St/Ore/Ore St/Utah/Cal/Stanford
Pac Sunny/Dry Division - USC/UCLA/Arizona/Az St/Texas Tech/Colorado/Ok State

good league there!

KSU/OSU were both in the Big 8 with Colorado. It creates a regional pod for CU much like Maryland/Rutgers for Penn St.

Texas Tech is a regional school which could be seen as a negative.

(08-25-2021 10:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  Everything seems to point to Pac 12 announcing this week they will keep their name and their number. Just because they are in alliance with the Big 10 doesn't mean they will choose to become similarly mathematically challenged.

They are definitely not absorbing the full L8 because the master plan in FB is to have 1H/1A with ACC/B1G within the next 5 years or so.

However the do have 2 less members than the ACC/B1G and the games against ND will count to the overall alliance numbers.

(08-26-2021 11:19 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  KSU/OSU were both in the Big 8 with Colorado. It creates a regional pod for CU much like Maryland/Rutgers for Penn St.

Texas Tech is a regional school which could be seen as a negative.

Boulder to Manhattan, KS - 513m
Boulder to Lubbock, TX - 575m

(08-26-2021 11:25 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(08-26-2021 11:19 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  KSU/OSU were both in the Big 8 with Colorado. It creates a regional pod for CU much like Maryland/Rutgers for Penn St.

Texas Tech is a regional school which could be seen as a negative.

Boulder to Manhattan, KS - 513m
Boulder to Lubbock, TX - 575m

Texas and Texas A&M are in the SEC. Any move by the PAC into Texas would be viewed as second tier against that backdrop.

(08-26-2021 11:28 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(08-26-2021 11:25 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(08-26-2021 11:19 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  KSU/OSU were both in the Big 8 with Colorado. It creates a regional pod for CU much like Maryland/Rutgers for Penn St.

Texas Tech is a regional school which could be seen as a negative.

Boulder to Manhattan, KS - 513m
Boulder to Lubbock, TX - 575m

Texas and Texas A&M are in the SEC. Any move by the PAC into Texas would be viewed as second tier against that backdrop.

West Virginia and Nebraska are the only 2 states in the US with less population than the state of Kansas.

and Kansas State is a clear #2 in that state.
no chance KSU is getting in the Pac12. Period.

PS - with Mississippi State winning the World Series this, only VA Tech and Kansas State are P5 programs that have NEVER won a national championship in any NCAA sponsored team sport.
PSS - Population: Lubbock, TX - 314,000.....Manhattan, KS - 54,000

(08-26-2021 11:39 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(08-26-2021 11:28 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(08-26-2021 11:25 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(08-26-2021 11:19 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  KSU/OSU were both in the Big 8 with Colorado. It creates a regional pod for CU much like Maryland/Rutgers for Penn St.

Texas Tech is a regional school which could be seen as a negative.

Boulder to Manhattan, KS - 513m
Boulder to Lubbock, TX - 575m

Texas and Texas A&M are in the SEC. Any move by the PAC into Texas would be viewed as second tier against that backdrop.

West Virginia and Nebraska are the only 2 states in the US with less population than the state of Kansas.

and Kansas State is a clear #2 in that state.
no chance KSU is getting in the Pac12. Period.

PS - with Mississippi State winning the World Series this, only VA Tech and Kansas State are P5 programs that have NEVER won a national championship in any NCAA sponsored team sport.
PSS - Population: Lubbock, TX - 314,000.....Manhattan, KS - 54,000

Consider that if the B1G takes KU and the PAC were to take KSU their rivalry game could satisfy alliance scheduling requirements.

KSU at least with respect to FB is #1 in Kansas.