They might have a shot at staying in the P5 if they take the best two available to replace UT/OU, and in my opinion that would be BYU and Boise State. If they wanted to go to 12 they should consider Air Force and the best AAC school west of the Mississippi river.

*** SMUstang ***

(08-17-2021 02:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  They need help, and the only chip they have is letting Texas and OU go early in exchange for some type of cooperation with the SEC.

The SEC made a power move but they are now getting out played. The SEC actually needs the Big 12 to survive. I know it sounds crazy but In this case the Big 12 needs anyone, and the SEC needs votes. For the next 4 years, the Big 12 has them.

If I am the SEC I make some rumblings that they may try to raid the PAC12 if the alliance with the Big 10 is made. Then make an alliance with the Big 12 and hope the PAC is scared enough to not fully go all in with the Big 10 and PAC 12.
The PAC can get a lot more by staying neutral and working both sides and the SEC can still hold power if they align with the Big 12.

Wont make any difference. The 3-conference alliance has 41 votes. The SEC+Big8 has 24---even if the Big8 goes to 12, it still only makes 28 votes. If they merged with the AAC---you get closer (35 or 36)---but still not enough to beat 41 votes.

I think it depends on how the power structure is divided up. The current system is going away.

If the SEC, Big 12 and AAC push to counter the "Axis of Elitehood" (Big 10, Pac 12, ACC) It could get interesting.

People who think the SEC has won are delusional. The SEC isnt crap if the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC decide to no longer schedule them because of their predatory practices.

Theres 16 teams in the SEC, so if they had to, they could play a round robin type of setup and only play each other. At that point they would just be a mini NFL and I am not certain the TV partners are going to be down with that.
When Bowl time comes around... then what? What about the playoff?

There is so much left to hammer out and the SEC just had their balls taken off. Biggest and best conference... with nobody to play.

The question is, how does the AAC and Big 12 take advantage of all of this turbulence?

The SEC "just had their balls taken off..."??? Get real, the SEC will have arguably 7-8 of the top10 FB programs in the country year in, year out. OOC scheduling thru a B1G-PAC-ACC alliance will do little except reduce the rankings of those conferences with additional losses among themselves. All of the power conferences play very few inter-conference games among the top schools & it works to keep their best programs in the CFP race. To play more major OOC games among those conferences will soon prove to just further elevate SEC programs. And what will an alliance for voting do for them? They will always vote what is best for each conference or each school individually. The only thing an alliance might do is keep the expanded playoffs open to their conference champs (esp the ACC & PAC) even if they are not otherwise ranked to earn a spot.

(08-17-2021 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  They need help, and the only chip they have is letting Texas and OU go early in exchange for some type of cooperation with the SEC.

The SEC made a power move but they are now getting out played. The SEC actually needs the Big 12 to survive. I know it sounds crazy but In this case the Big 12 needs anyone, and the SEC needs votes. For the next 4 years, the Big 12 has them.

If I am the SEC I make some rumblings that they may try to raid the PAC12 if the alliance with the Big 10 is made. Then make an alliance with the Big 12 and hope the PAC is scared enough to not fully go all in with the Big 10 and PAC 12.
The PAC can get a lot more by staying neutral and working both sides and the SEC can still hold power if they align with the Big 12.

Wont make any difference. The 3-conference alliance has 41 votes. The SEC+Big8 has 24---even if the Big8 goes to 12, it still only makes 28 votes. If they merged with the AAC---you get closer (35 or 36)---but still not enough to beat 41 votes.

I think it depends on how the power structure is divided up. The current system is going away.

If the SEC, Big 12 and AAC push to counter the "Axis of Elitehood" (Big 10, Pac 12, ACC) It could get interesting.

People who think the SEC has won are delusional. The SEC isnt crap if the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC decide to no longer schedule them because of their predatory practices.

Theres 16 teams in the SEC, so if they had to, they could play a round robin type of setup and only play each other. At that point they would just be a mini NFL and I am not certain the TV partners are going to be down with that.
When Bowl time comes around... then what? What about the playoff?

There is so much left to hammer out and the SEC just had their balls taken off. Biggest and best conference... with nobody to play.

The question is, how does the AAC and Big 12 take advantage of all of this turbulence?

The SEC "just had their balls taken off..."??? Get real, the SEC will have arguably 7-8 of the top10 FB programs in the country year in, year out. OOC scheduling thru a B1G-PAC-ACC alliance will do little except reduce the rankings of those conferences with additional losses among themselves. All of the power conferences play very few inter-conference games among the top schools & it works to keep their best programs in the CFP race. To play more major OOC games among those conferences will soon prove to just further elevate SEC programs. And what will an alliance for voting do for them? They will always vote what is best for each conference or each school individually. The only thing an alliance might do is keep the expanded playoffs open to their conference champs (esp the ACC & PAC) even if they are not otherwise ranked to earn a spot.

If you dont think that the Big 10, ACC and PAC 12 combined cant freeze out the SEC, then I dont know what to tell ya my friend.

The Big 10 has been and will continue to be the highest paid conference out there. The SEC will be very close now, but lets not act like the B10 hasnt been eating everyones lunch for a long time and they just pulled the ultimate move.

The SEC has almost no voting power now. With the alliance they can simply vote that the SEC only gets 1 playoff spot and they all get 2. They wont, since they dont want to start a war and be petty but they can. That alliance will now control college football.

(08-17-2021 04:39 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  They need help, and the only chip they have is letting Texas and OU go early in exchange for some type of cooperation with the SEC.

The SEC made a power move but they are now getting out played. The SEC actually needs the Big 12 to survive. I know it sounds crazy but In this case the Big 12 needs anyone, and the SEC needs votes. For the next 4 years, the Big 12 has them.

If I am the SEC I make some rumblings that they may try to raid the PAC12 if the alliance with the Big 10 is made. Then make an alliance with the Big 12 and hope the PAC is scared enough to not fully go all in with the Big 10 and PAC 12.
The PAC can get a lot more by staying neutral and working both sides and the SEC can still hold power if they align with the Big 12.

Wont make any difference. The 3-conference alliance has 41 votes. The SEC+Big8 has 24---even if the Big8 goes to 12, it still only makes 28 votes. If they merged with the AAC---you get closer (35 or 36)---but still not enough to beat 41 votes.

I think it depends on how the power structure is divided up. The current system is going away.

If the SEC, Big 12 and AAC push to counter the "Axis of Elitehood" (Big 10, Pac 12, ACC) It could get interesting.

People who think the SEC has won are delusional. The SEC isnt crap if the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC decide to no longer schedule them because of their predatory practices.

Theres 16 teams in the SEC, so if they had to, they could play a round robin type of setup and only play each other. At that point they would just be a mini NFL and I am not certain the TV partners are going to be down with that.
When Bowl time comes around... then what? What about the playoff?

There is so much left to hammer out and the SEC just had their balls taken off. Biggest and best conference... with nobody to play.

The question is, how does the AAC and Big 12 take advantage of all of this turbulence?

The SEC "just had their balls taken off..."??? Get real, the SEC will have arguably 7-8 of the top10 FB programs in the country year in, year out. OOC scheduling thru a B1G-PAC-ACC alliance will do little except reduce the rankings of those conferences with additional losses among themselves. All of the power conferences play very few inter-conference games among the top schools & it works to keep their best programs in the CFP race. To play more major OOC games among those conferences will soon prove to just further elevate SEC programs. And what will an alliance for voting do for them? They will always vote what is best for each conference or each school individually. The only thing an alliance might do is keep the expanded playoffs open to their conference champs (esp the ACC & PAC) even if they are not otherwise ranked to earn a spot.

If you dont think that the Big 10, ACC and PAC 12 combined cant freeze out the SEC, then I dont know what to tell ya my friend.

The Big 10 has been and will continue to be the highest paid conference out there. The SEC will be very close now, but lets not act like the B10 hasnt been eating everyones lunch for a long time and they just pulled the ultimate move.

The SEC has almost no voting power now. With the alliance they can simply vote that the SEC only gets 1 playoff spot and they all get 2. They wont, since they dont want to start a war and be petty but they can. That alliance will now control college football.

You are dreaming guy. You really think that those three could freeze out the SEC? All SEC has to do is invite 8 more go to 24 and have their own football league. Those three you mention together don’t have the star power the SEC does and of those three only the BigTen can approach them monetarily.
ALL SEC has to do is invite Clemson, FSU and VTech and they would be right over and the AAC is decapitated. They invite Michigan, OSU and PSU and the BigTen is done. As for PAC is really USC , and maybe Wash and Oregon add ND as the 10th and there is your Super SEC 26 teams good bye to all the rest. Maybe they could add a couple of others. But you get my drift the SEC can and could decapitate theothers just as easily as they did Big12. They are the power league now

(08-17-2021 05:00 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 04:39 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Wont make any difference. The 3-conference alliance has 41 votes. The SEC+Big8 has 24---even if the Big8 goes to 12, it still only makes 28 votes. If they merged with the AAC---you get closer (35 or 36)---but still not enough to beat 41 votes.

I think it depends on how the power structure is divided up. The current system is going away.

If the SEC, Big 12 and AAC push to counter the "Axis of Elitehood" (Big 10, Pac 12, ACC) It could get interesting.

People who think the SEC has won are delusional. The SEC isnt crap if the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC decide to no longer schedule them because of their predatory practices.

Theres 16 teams in the SEC, so if they had to, they could play a round robin type of setup and only play each other. At that point they would just be a mini NFL and I am not certain the TV partners are going to be down with that.
When Bowl time comes around... then what? What about the playoff?

There is so much left to hammer out and the SEC just had their balls taken off. Biggest and best conference... with nobody to play.

The question is, how does the AAC and Big 12 take advantage of all of this turbulence?

The SEC "just had their balls taken off..."??? Get real, the SEC will have arguably 7-8 of the top10 FB programs in the country year in, year out. OOC scheduling thru a B1G-PAC-ACC alliance will do little except reduce the rankings of those conferences with additional losses among themselves. All of the power conferences play very few inter-conference games among the top schools & it works to keep their best programs in the CFP race. To play more major OOC games among those conferences will soon prove to just further elevate SEC programs. And what will an alliance for voting do for them? They will always vote what is best for each conference or each school individually. The only thing an alliance might do is keep the expanded playoffs open to their conference champs (esp the ACC & PAC) even if they are not otherwise ranked to earn a spot.

If you dont think that the Big 10, ACC and PAC 12 combined cant freeze out the SEC, then I dont know what to tell ya my friend.

The Big 10 has been and will continue to be the highest paid conference out there. The SEC will be very close now, but lets not act like the B10 hasnt been eating everyones lunch for a long time and they just pulled the ultimate move.

The SEC has almost no voting power now. With the alliance they can simply vote that the SEC only gets 1 playoff spot and they all get 2. They wont, since they dont want to start a war and be petty but they can. That alliance will now control college football.

You are dreaming guy. You really think that those three could freeze out the SEC? All SEC has to do is invite 8 more go to 24 and have their own football league. Those three you mention together don’t have the star power the SEC does and of those three only the BigTen can approach them monetarily.
ALL SEC has to do is invite Clemson, FSU and VTech and they would be right over and the AAC is decapitated. They invite Michigan, OSU and PSU and the BigTen is done. As for PAC is really USC , and maybe Wash and Oregon add ND as the 10th and there is your Super SEC 26 teams good bye to all the rest. Maybe they could add a couple of others. But you get my drift the SEC can and could decapitate theothers just as easily as they did Big12. They are the power league now

The Alliace has checked the sec, two options for the sec now is to go along with the Alliance or break away with a few more teams in tow...i hope they do break away and chop their balls off playing each other, but it’s not my problem, can’t see them from my house

I find people arrogance about the SEC hilarious. The Big 10 has been and will be the highest paid. The SEC couldn’t get a single team to leave.

(08-17-2021 05:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find people arrogance about the SEC hilarious. The Big 10 has been and will be the highest paid. The SEC couldn’t get a single team to leave.

Is not arrogance, you forget that it was the SEC who took Texas and Oklahoma. Not the BigTen, Not the PAC and not the ACC. Of those other three only the BigTen can match the SEC and this “ alliance” was done exactly to try to keep them from running away from the rest. Now here is reality that alliance which we don’t even know how far it will go will last as long as the BigTen says so and if they feel that the only way to match the SEC is to raid either PAC or ACC, th3n they will. But the fact that the BigTen needed that alliance tells you who the big boy really is.

(08-17-2021 05:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find people arrogance about the SEC hilarious. The Big 10 has been and will be the highest paid. The SEC couldn’t get a single team to leave.

BEVO is a steer, lol now in the ball less sec

(08-17-2021 11:51 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  They need help, and the only chip they have is letting Texas and OU go early in exchange for some type of cooperation with the SEC.

The SEC made a power move but they are now getting out played. The SEC actually needs the Big 12 to survive. I know it sounds crazy but In this case the Big 12 needs anyone, and the SEC needs votes. For the next 4 years, the Big 12 has them.

If I am the SEC I make some rumblings that they may try to raid the PAC12 if the alliance with the Big 10 is made. Then make an alliance with the Big 12 and hope the PAC is scared enough to not fully go all in with the Big 10 and PAC 12.
The PAC can get a lot more by staying neutral and working both sides and the SEC can still hold power if they align with the Big 12.

You are fooling yourself. The SEC won, they don’t need anyone specially the L8. The PAC,Big and ACC will work together as much as they can to try to counteract SEC, but they are also dependent on them without the SEC, the others are second best. Plus if you think those three will agree on everything then you haven’t been reading your advise on each conference’s characteristics.

Reality is that as of now
Power Leagues
SEC
BigTen
ACC
PAC


Tweener Leagues
L8
AAC

I mostly agree but I think it’s

Untouchable
1. SEC

Power
2. B1G

Please don’t raid me
3. ACC
4. PAC

Scraps
5.L8
6.AAC

(08-17-2021 05:41 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 05:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find people arrogance about the SEC hilarious. The Big 10 has been and will be the highest paid. The SEC couldn’t get a single team to leave.

Is not arrogance, you forget that it was the SEC who took Texas and Oklahoma. Not the BigTen, Not the PAC and not the ACC. Of those other three only the BigTen can match the SEC and this “ alliance” was done exactly to try to keep them from running away from the rest. Now here is reality that alliance which we don’t even know how far it will go will last as long as the BigTen says so and if they feel that the only way to match the SEC is to raid either PAC or ACC, th3n they will. But the fact that the BigTen needed that alliance tells you who the big boy really is.

The Alliance already has the voting power, why then would BiG10 need to add teams ???

Guess BYU prepping to move


BYU students celebrate as school removes ‘Homosexual Behavior’ section from its online Honor Code

(08-17-2021 04:39 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  They need help, and the only chip they have is letting Texas and OU go early in exchange for some type of cooperation with the SEC.

The SEC made a power move but they are now getting out played. The SEC actually needs the Big 12 to survive. I know it sounds crazy but In this case the Big 12 needs anyone, and the SEC needs votes. For the next 4 years, the Big 12 has them.

If I am the SEC I make some rumblings that they may try to raid the PAC12 if the alliance with the Big 10 is made. Then make an alliance with the Big 12 and hope the PAC is scared enough to not fully go all in with the Big 10 and PAC 12.
The PAC can get a lot more by staying neutral and working both sides and the SEC can still hold power if they align with the Big 12.

Wont make any difference. The 3-conference alliance has 41 votes. The SEC+Big8 has 24---even if the Big8 goes to 12, it still only makes 28 votes. If they merged with the AAC---you get closer (35 or 36)---but still not enough to beat 41 votes.

I think it depends on how the power structure is divided up. The current system is going away.

If the SEC, Big 12 and AAC push to counter the "Axis of Elitehood" (Big 10, Pac 12, ACC) It could get interesting.

People who think the SEC has won are delusional. The SEC isnt crap if the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC decide to no longer schedule them because of their predatory practices.

Theres 16 teams in the SEC, so if they had to, they could play a round robin type of setup and only play each other. At that point they would just be a mini NFL and I am not certain the TV partners are going to be down with that.
When Bowl time comes around... then what? What about the playoff?

There is so much left to hammer out and the SEC just had their balls taken off. Biggest and best conference... with nobody to play.

The question is, how does the AAC and Big 12 take advantage of all of this turbulence?

The SEC "just had their balls taken off..."??? Get real, the SEC will have arguably 7-8 of the top10 FB programs in the country year in, year out. OOC scheduling thru a B1G-PAC-ACC alliance will do little except reduce the rankings of those conferences with additional losses among themselves. All of the power conferences play very few inter-conference games among the top schools & it works to keep their best programs in the CFP race. To play more major OOC games among those conferences will soon prove to just further elevate SEC programs. And what will an alliance for voting do for them? They will always vote what is best for each conference or each school individually. The only thing an alliance might do is keep the expanded playoffs open to their conference champs (esp the ACC & PAC) even if they are not otherwise ranked to earn a spot.

If you dont think that the Big 10, ACC and PAC 12 combined cant freeze out the SEC, then I dont know what to tell ya my friend.

The Big 10 has been and will continue to be the highest paid conference out there. The SEC will be very close now, but lets not act like the B10 hasnt been eating everyones lunch for a long time and they just pulled the ultimate move.

The SEC has almost no votiing power now. With the alliance they can simply vote that the SEC only gets 1 playoff spot and they all get 2. They wont, since they dont want to start a war and be petty but they can. That alliance will now control college football.

".... eating everyone's lunch".???.., please, an approx 5% difference in payout now is not eating anyone's lunch. It's a slight difference with no significance in contracted TV payout. And that difference will be erased with the addition of UT/OU. Media estimates already indicate it will boost SEC payouts over 20% across the conference. The SEC wins the natl title 4 out of 5 yrs, they send more schools to bowls games. And the absurd idea that an alliance could legally restrict SEC access to the CFP or somehow damage the SEC schedule-wise is fantasy. This alliance discussion is simply a desperate attempt to brainstorm how the other leagues can keep up. Look I'm no friend of the SEC but I am a realist.

(08-17-2021 06:12 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 04:39 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 03:25 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:00 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Wont make any difference. The 3-conference alliance has 41 votes. The SEC+Big8 has 24---even if the Big8 goes to 12, it still only makes 28 votes. If they merged with the AAC---you get closer (35 or 36)---but still not enough to beat 41 votes.

I think it depends on how the power structure is divided up. The current system is going away.

If the SEC, Big 12 and AAC push to counter the "Axis of Elitehood" (Big 10, Pac 12, ACC) It could get interesting.

People who think the SEC has won are delusional. The SEC isnt crap if the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC decide to no longer schedule them because of their predatory practices.

Theres 16 teams in the SEC, so if they had to, they could play a round robin type of setup and only play each other. At that point they would just be a mini NFL and I am not certain the TV partners are going to be down with that.
When Bowl time comes around... then what? What about the playoff?

There is so much left to hammer out and the SEC just had their balls taken off. Biggest and best conference... with nobody to play.

The question is, how does the AAC and Big 12 take advantage of all of this turbulence?

The SEC "just had their balls taken off..."??? Get real, the SEC will have arguably 7-8 of the top10 FB programs in the country year in, year out. OOC scheduling thru a B1G-PAC-ACC alliance will do little except reduce the rankings of those conferences with additional losses among themselves. All of the power conferences play very few inter-conference games among the top schools & it works to keep their best programs in the CFP race. To play more major OOC games among those conferences will soon prove to just further elevate SEC programs. And what will an alliance for voting do for them? They will always vote what is best for each conference or each school individually. The only thing an alliance might do is keep the expanded playoffs open to their conference champs (esp the ACC & PAC) even if they are not otherwise ranked to earn a spot.

If you dont think that the Big 10, ACC and PAC 12 combined cant freeze out the SEC, then I dont know what to tell ya my friend.

The Big 10 has been and will continue to be the highest paid conference out there. The SEC will be very close now, but lets not act like the B10 hasnt been eating everyones lunch for a long time and they just pulled the ultimate move.

The SEC has almost no votiing power now. With the alliance they can simply vote that the SEC only gets 1 playoff spot and they all get 2. They wont, since they dont want to start a war and be petty but they can. That alliance will now control college football.

".... eating everyone's lunch".???.., please, an approx 5% difference in payout now is not eating anyone's lunch. It's a slight difference with no significance in contracted TV payout. And that difference will be erased with the addition of UT/OU. Media estimates already indicate it will boost SEC payouts over 20% across the conference. The SEC wins the natl title 4 out of 5 yrs, they send more schools to bowls games. And the absurd idea that an alliance could legally restrict SEC access to the CFP or somehow damage the SEC schedule-wise is fantasy. This alliance discussion is simply a desperate attempt to brainstorm how the other leagues can keep up. Look I'm no friend of the SEC but I am a realist.

Of the Alliance is really very serious and stays united and strong then they can use their voting power to their benefit but i have my reservations becouse the ACC is owned by espn, hey man it’s popcorn time for us g5ers watching the A conferences tearing each other up

(08-17-2021 06:07 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Guess BYU prepping to move


BYU students celebrate as school removes ‘Homosexual Behavior’ section from its online Honor Code

Yep. That’s significant.

(08-17-2021 07:47 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 06:07 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Guess BYU prepping to move


BYU students celebrate as school removes ‘Homosexual Behavior’ section from its online Honor Code

Yep. That’s significant.

Wow…I’d say they’ve probably been told to do so from an outside source if they want to be considered.

Edit: happened in Feb 2020, then in March they clarified it to say they are still against it, they just removed the words from the honor code. The clarification sparked new protests. Did they do something new?

(08-17-2021 05:46 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 05:41 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 05:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I find people arrogance about the SEC hilarious. The Big 10 has been and will be the highest paid. The SEC couldn’t get a single team to leave.

Is not arrogance, you forget that it was the SEC who took Texas and Oklahoma. Not the BigTen, Not the PAC and not the ACC. Of those other three only the BigTen can match the SEC and this “ alliance” was done exactly to try to keep them from running away from the rest. Now here is reality that alliance which we don’t even know how far it will go will last as long as the BigTen says so and if they feel that the only way to match the SEC is to raid either PAC or ACC, th3n they will. But the fact that the BigTen needed that alliance tells you who the big boy really is.

The Alliance already has the voting power, why then would BiG10 need to add teams ???

Because the alliance probably won’t hold up. Reality is that BigTen and PAC agree on many things but the ACC is not in the same wavelength. As I said the alliance will hold up as long as the BigTen finds it convenient, they rule the other two. The end of the alliance and BigTen expansion will happen when and if the BigTen realizes that it can’t match the SEC in media money without adding teams. There are many ACC and PAC teams that don’t add to the media package and the BT might make even more money by just raiding the best from PAC or ACC.

(08-17-2021 07:47 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 06:07 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Guess BYU prepping to move


BYU students celebrate as school removes ‘Homosexual Behavior’ section from its online Honor Code

Yep. That’s significant.

Money talks...Everybody walks!

(08-17-2021 07:56 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 07:47 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 06:07 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Guess BYU prepping to move


BYU students celebrate as school removes ‘Homosexual Behavior’ section from its online Honor Code

Yep. That’s significant.

Wow…I’d say they’ve probably been told to do so from an outside source if they want to be considered.

Edit: happened in Feb 2020, then in March they clarified it to say they are still against it, they just removed the words from the honor code. The clarification sparked new protests. Did they do something new?

I don’t know. I wasn’t being sarcastic. It is significant. Thanks for bringing up the speed though. I don’t follow BYU closely. But I do know this policy in particular has been brought up a number of times in realignment discussion as a mark against them.

(08-17-2021 06:07 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Guess BYU prepping to move


BYU students celebrate as school removes ‘Homosexual Behavior’ section from its online Honor Code

lol....Did they also clean up any questionable material on their Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram feeds?

(08-17-2021 08:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 05:46 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 05:41 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  [quote='mtmedlin' pid='17561680' dateline='1629239336']
I find people arrogance about the SEC hilarious. The Big 10 has been and will be the highest paid. The SEC couldn’t get a single team to leave.

Is not arrogance, you forget that it was the SEC who took Texas and Oklahoma. Not the BigTen, Not the PAC and not the ACC. Of those other three only the BigTen can match the SEC and this “ alliance” was done exactly to try to keep them from running away from the rest. Now here is reality that alliance which we don’t even know how far it will go will last as long as the BigTen says so and if they feel that the only way to match the SEC is to raid either PAC or ACC, th3n they will. But the fact that the BigTen needed that alliance tells you who the big boy really is.

The Alliance already has the voting power, why then would BiG10 need to add teams ???

Because the alliance probably won’t hold up. Reality is that BigTen and PAC agree on many things but the ACC is not in the same wavelength. As I said the alliance will hold up as long as the BigTen finds it convenient, they rule the other two. The end of the alliance and BigTen expansion will happen when and if the BigTen realizes that it can’t match the SEC in media money without adding teams. There are many ACC and PAC teams that don’t add to the media package and the BT might make even more money by just raiding the best from PAC or ACC.
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You throw the word ( reality) around so much it’s losing its gravitas, but hey keep trying, even a fish wouldn’t get caught if he kept his mouth shut...