https://youtu.be/3T7l1qisItc

As an Ohio State fan I know that we can become a little full of ourselves. But a vote of no confidence from Ohio State leadership barely a year into your tenure is not getting off on the right foot. He'll forever be haunted by the Covid decisions and the folks in Columbus apparently refuse to forgive him. Ouch.

(08-16-2021 07:03 AM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  https://youtu.be/3T7l1qisItc

As an Ohio State fan I know that we can become a little full of ourselves. But a vote of no confidence from Ohio State leadership barely a year into your tenure is not getting off on the right foot. He'll forever be haunted by the Covid decisions and the folks in Columbus apparently refuse to forgive him. Ouch.

The first statement ncouldnt be more true. I also don't remember much chest puffing from 1980-2001 either, but now it's all downhill. But yes, he appears unfit for the job, which makes sense if you analyze it correctly.

(08-16-2021 08:01 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 07:03 AM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  https://youtu.be/3T7l1qisItc

As an Ohio State fan I know that we can become a little full of ourselves. But a vote of no confidence from Ohio State leadership barely a year into your tenure is not getting off on the right foot. He'll forever be haunted by the Covid decisions and the folks in Columbus apparently refuse to forgive him. Ouch.

The first statement ncouldnt be more true. I also don't remember much chest puffing from 1980-2001 either, but now it's all downhill. But yes, he appears unfit for the job, which makes sense if you analyze it correctly.

No it predated 2001.

(08-16-2021 08:01 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 07:03 AM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  https://youtu.be/3T7l1qisItc

As an Ohio State fan I know that we can become a little full of ourselves. But a vote of no confidence from Ohio State leadership barely a year into your tenure is not getting off on the right foot. He'll forever be haunted by the Covid decisions and the folks in Columbus apparently refuse to forgive him. Ouch.

The first statement ncouldnt be more true. I also don't remember much chest puffing from 1980-2001 either, but now it's all downhill. But yes, he appears unfit for the job, which makes sense if you analyze it correctly.

Touche old friend. Btw you're dating yourself.

(08-16-2021 08:08 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 08:01 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 07:03 AM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  https://youtu.be/3T7l1qisItc

As an Ohio State fan I know that we can become a little full of ourselves. But a vote of no confidence from Ohio State leadership barely a year into your tenure is not getting off on the right foot. He'll forever be haunted by the Covid decisions and the folks in Columbus apparently refuse to forgive him. Ouch.

The first statement ncouldnt be more true. I also don't remember much chest puffing from 1980-2001 either, but now it's all downhill. But yes, he appears unfit for the job, which makes sense if you analyze it correctly.

No it predated 2001.

Cooper's 2-10-1 temporarily humbled us, then our arrogance was restored after his departure, LMAO!!!

Conference seemed to be one leading most of way with Jim Delany. Can't say same now.

I don't know if Kevin Warren will turn out to be a good commissioner or not.

However, it's simply ludicrous that anyone thinks that the Big Ten is going to get rid of him with less than 2 years in the office. The COVID complaints are frankly more of a reflection of where certain fans stood politically and, to put it mildly, the Big Ten university presidents are on a totally different political wavelength compared to those fans. If the Big Ten extracts maximum money from ESPN and/or Fox and/or other TV/streaming partners in the next TV deal, then the university presidents will be happy. If it's underwhelming on that front, then *that* is what will not make the university presidents happy.

The B1G selecting Warren over Phillips as Commissioner will go down as one of the biggest blunders in conference history IMO.

(08-16-2021 08:37 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Conference seemed to be one leading most of way with Jim Delany. Can't say same now.

Yes, as a B1G outsider, the perception I have is that the B1G has taken a step downwards under Warren compared to Delany. The handling of football and the virus was IMO a fiasco. It also doesn't look good that the SEC, not the B1G, was able to attract Texas as a member.

This past year, it looks like the SEC is now alone in the leadership role of college athletics, the B1G seems diminished by comparison.

Nebraska seconds that motion

Truth be told, if they aren’t thrilled with the guy it’s better to get rid of him sooner rather than later before he starts negotiating a tv deal that could be detrimental for years to come.

(08-16-2021 07:03 AM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  https://youtu.be/3T7l1qisItc

As an Ohio State fan I know that we can become a little full of ourselves

E.g., referring to Ohio State as THE Ohio State.

(08-16-2021 10:00 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Truth be told, if they aren’t thrilled with the guy it’s better to get rid of him sooner rather than later before he starts negotiating a tv deal that could be detrimental for years to come.

They're simply not getting rid of him (at least this quickly). Everyone needs to look at the bigger picture and the optics of it that the university presidents take very seriously (and it has nothing to do with football).

No doubt Warren was between a rock and a hard place trying to navigate the Covid gap dividing 14 college presidents and the masses of B!G Football fanatics.

Seems unlikely even Delany himself could've threaded that needle by Week 1 of last season.

IMO, hitting the jackpot on TV/media rights money — i.e., being in the same ballpark as the SEC — will come down to how well the conference handles realignment.

Warren badly needs a couple shiny new toys to sell like Sankey pulled off down South.

Can't see that happening without reeling in that big fish 110 miles east of the league office in Chicago.

(08-16-2021 10:32 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 10:00 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Truth be told, if they aren’t thrilled with the guy it’s better to get rid of him sooner rather than later before he starts negotiating a tv deal that could be detrimental for years to come.

They're simply not getting rid of him (at least this quickly). Everyone needs to look at the bigger picture and the optics of it that the university presidents take very seriously (and it has nothing to do with football).

But if the man is a cancer and does more harm the longer he stays in office then it makes more sense to admit they made an incompetent hire and can him. The time to do that is before he signs a 30 year deal to air T1 and T2 games on Discovery+ for $15M/yr, not after.

I think Warren probably over reacted when the Big Ten completely canceled the season instead of simply postponing the start of it.

First, the Big Ten made the decision to cancel way to early, just days after announcing a 10-game schedule that in hindsight would have worked out pretty well. Delaying the start just a little and building extra byes into the season. That 10-game schedule was a good idea and they should have stuck with it.

2nd, instead of canceling, another idea is they could have just postponed the start a few more weeks then they still could had played an 8-game schedule with bye weeks.

Finally, if they would have postponed the start and then later cancelled, it would have been easier to just keep it cancelled completely, with no plans for a spring season. Just completely shut it down for 1 year. Re-evaluate when it was time for spring practice.

(08-16-2021 09:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-16-2021 08:37 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Conference seemed to be one leading most of way with Jim Delany. Can't say same now.

Yes, as a B1G outsider, the perception I have is that the B1G has taken a step downwards under Warren compared to Delany. The handling of football and the virus was IMO a fiasco. It also doesn't look good that the SEC, not the B1G, was able to attract Texas as a member.

This past year, it looks like the SEC is now alone in the leadership role of college athletics, the B1G seems diminished by comparison.

Warren's biggest failure there was letting the snobbier members of the conference dictate its future. However, I'm fairly certain that's why he was hired in the first place.

Agree not going anywhere now. Last year was handled badly (should have had better idea how everyone else was going to respond before going a route might have to reverse), but he will survive that. It was a tough first year and most commissioners are going to be seen as having made some mistakes. I don't think can afford another of that magnitude, but that is unlikely (at least short term).

All I can think of is people in the higher education business are way too liberal in their politics. If anybody should be fired it’s the President of the university of Michigan and not the big 10 commish, guy should have been fired last year but as al gore said there is no controlling legal authority or common sense for any accountability

This is not accurate