(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote: When I am literally sitting here watching the local news saying the exact same hospital is overflowing, then it proves something. They are lying. If they are lying, how can I believe others are not lying?
Exactly. You were providing an eyewitness account that directly contradicts statements made by "credible" sources.
So, an anonymous poster on an internet message board is a credible source?
Dude.....
IMO, not any less reliable than anything you see on the MSM.
And yet commietom thinks we should find HIM credible. Libtard hypocrisy at its finest.
Apparently, CommieTom takes the "completely trustworthy" MSM as more valid than someone reporting what they experienced firsthand. Maybe if the MSM reported honestly and objectively then they would be trustworthy, but as it stands I'd rather believe an eyewitness over Don Lemon reporting, especially since I don't know the poster OR Lemon personally.
Anybody who uses the MSM as their source of news is totally unaware of what is actually happening around the country. It's propaganda. What is eye opening to some who don't believe this is what they find out when they read alternative media and realize how many big stories are not reported AT ALL on MSM.
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
control mechanism + pharma arse rape = sadomasochistic policy
(08-06-2021 01:50 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: I don't get News. I look up data for myself. There is no such thing as "News" in America anymore. And by the way there are 86 staffed ICU beds available in the State of MS now. Sure did move up from 6 fast.MS Hospitilizations
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
You just posted that you don’t get your news, you do your own research, then you post what someone told you.
From Feb 15th 2021 until August 2nd there have been 125k covid deaths in the United States, 1507 have been fully vaccinated.
(08-04-2021 10:22 PM)banker Wrote: Saw where the various hospital CEOs in Florida had a zoom meeting discussing this. They said COVID makes up about 10% of their current census. They are also not overrun.
I dont think you are making the point you think you are making.
If only/majority of unvaccinated are going to the hospital - doesnt that mean the vaccine is doing what it should - preventing you from getting seriously sick. so doesnt that mean that the vaccinated should be able to unmask and go about living their lives. doesnt that also mean that people can then weigh their percieved risk on the vaccine or getting covid.
HMMM seems to me like people should be able to make their own choice?
It seems to me the vaccinated shouldnt be scared of the unvaccinated but the other way around.
Id be scared of both if I was unvaxed..and Im cautious now regardless. Im not going to win a Darwin award at this point. Others are free to do as they wish. Freedom comes with costs.
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
You just posted that you don’t get your news, you do your own research, then you post what someone told you.
From Feb 15th 2021 until August 2nd there have been 125k covid deaths in the United States, 1507 have been fully vaccinated.
I didn't post anything that someone told me. This thread is about the "News" lying to us about hospitalizations and I link the facts from the MDH. Move along.
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
You just posted that you don’t get your news, you do your own research, then you post what someone told you.
From Feb 15th 2021 until August 2nd there have been 125k covid deaths in the United States, 1507 have been fully vaccinated.
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
You just posted that you don’t get your news, you do your own research, then you post what someone told you.
From Feb 15th 2021 until August 2nd there have been 125k covid deaths in the United States, 1507 have been fully vaccinated.
How many people were vaccinated on February 15th? You have to understand math to have a math conversation.
Here’s one for you - if everyone gets vaccinated all COVID deaths will occur in vaccinated people. That means vaccinated people would be 100% more likely to die from COVID.
It’s like that stupid commercial saying 97% of all hospitalizations and 99% of all deaths have been unvaccinated. Well, they are using data that includes a time frame during which no vaccine existed for 85% of all hospitalizations or deaths. Stupidity.
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
You just posted that you don’t get your news, you do your own research, then you post what someone told you.
From Feb 15th 2021 until August 2nd there have been 125k covid deaths in the United States, 1507 have been fully vaccinated.
How many people were vaccinated on February 15th? You have to understand math to have a math conversation.
Here’s one for you - if everyone gets vaccinated all COVID deaths will occur in vaccinated people. That means vaccinated people would be 100% more likely to die from COVID.
It’s like that stupid commercial saying 97% of all hospitalizations and 99% of all deaths have been unvaccinated. Well, they are using data that includes a time frame during which no vaccine existed for 85% of all hospitalizations or deaths. Stupidity.
it’s why the Carson vid above….math be ha(or)r(i)d for ‘sum’…
Quote:“The vast majority of cases are occurring in unvaccinated individuals,” described Dr. Paul Byers. “And these unvaccinated individuals are serving as the source of transmission into those vulnerable populations that may not have mounted a robust immune response from the vaccine.”
Still, there’s a common thread for the majority of those folks who got the shot, still got COVID, and later died.
“The vaccine breakthrough deaths we are seeing are largely occurring in older individuals and in individuals who have underlying immunocompromising or severe underlying comorbidities.”
I listened to a Doctor who is treating Covid patients and he said that people are the most vulnerable to Covid the few days after getting the Vaccine and that the patients he has seen that were the worst off where the patients that got Vaccinated. What this all means is it doesn't matter if you are vaccinated, if you have co-morbidities you could still die. I thought the whole purpose of the "vaccine" was that if you get it, you won't get a bad case of it. So. Again. What is the reason for getting vaccinated?
You just posted that you don’t get your news, you do your own research, then you post what someone told you.
From Feb 15th 2021 until August 2nd there have been 125k covid deaths in the United States, 1507 have been fully vaccinated.
How many people were vaccinated on February 15th? You have to understand math to have a math conversation.
Here’s one for you - if everyone gets vaccinated all COVID deaths will occur in vaccinated people. That means vaccinated people would be 100% more likely to die from COVID.
It’s like that stupid commercial saying 97% of all hospitalizations and 99% of all deaths have been unvaccinated. Well, they are using data that includes a time frame during which no vaccine existed for 85% of all hospitalizations or deaths. Stupidity.
So let's look at it from May 1st we had 100M fully vaccinated. 40k covid deaths since then.
1500 total breakthrough covid deaths for fully vaccinated since they started giving the vaccine, not just during that time period.
If the vaccine didn't protect you from severe covid then we should have seen 12k vaccinated deaths from May until August based on population distribution, which we know we didn't because only 1500 total vaccinated breakthrough deaths from any time.
Let's assume all 1500 vaccinated breakthrough deaths happened from May until August. During that time period the total unvacinated population 1 in every 6000 people died from covid. From the vaccinated population 1 in every 66,000 people died from Covid.
(08-04-2021 10:22 PM)banker Wrote: Saw where the various hospital CEOs in Florida had a zoom meeting discussing this. They said COVID makes up about 10% of their current census. They are also not overrun.
I dont think you are making the point you think you are making.
If only/majority of unvaccinated are going to the hospital - doesnt that mean the vaccine is doing what it should - preventing you from getting seriously sick. so doesnt that mean that the vaccinated should be able to unmask and go about living their lives. doesnt that also mean that people can then weigh their percieved risk on the vaccine or getting covid.
HMMM seems to me like people should be able to make their own choice?
It seems to me the vaccinated shouldnt be scared of the unvaccinated but the other way around.
Fully vaccinated people can still carry around and spread the virus to the unvaccinated without having symptoms themselves. Additionally no vaccine is 100% full proof for Covid-19, much less any of the variants.
And yes, you can remain unvaccinated and get the virus...and try to develop your own immunity, but if large numbers of citizens does {sic} that it overwhelms our health care industry and inflates all of our health care costsends this stupid charade rather quickly and eliminates the power-grab by the lying idiots allegedly in charge..
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More Covid hospitalizations propaganda
