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(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  When I am literally sitting here watching the local news saying the exact same hospital is overflowing, then it proves something. They are lying. If they are lying, how can I believe others are not lying?

Exactly. You were providing an eyewitness account that directly contradicts statements made by "credible" sources.
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Muh hospital beds!!!!! lol
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The libs are ramping up the hysteria for cheating in 2022. This Covid nonsense, regulations, masks, demonizing the unvaccinated, etc is only gonna get worse.
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(08-05-2021 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 09:39 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Just made up.Propaganda in the "News"
Quote:Leaders also said there’s only six ICU beds available throughout the state.
Guess they realize their readers are too stupid and lazy to find this info on their own.
There are actually 67 "Staffed ICU" beds available in MS. Which means if more beds are needed more staff will be called in. UMMS is the free inner city hospital in the Capitol.

Looks like just a mistake in the story...and they don't attribute it to any person or put it in quotes.

Anyway, if you look at the current state of beds at the UMMC, they're at a -11 for Adult Covid beds, so the gist of the story which is solely related to the UMMC being overrun is accurate.
Correct 97 total ICU beds in the hospital and 14 of them occupied by Covid Patients. So what other problem is overloading UMMC? Because it isn't Covid. That should be the Real Story here. It is not a "mistake". It is Propaganda. Like I said, it takes about 10 seconds for a "Journalist" to check to see if it is an accurate statement.
It is still up on my local TV "Newstation" website. This is not an accident. It is to scare people into doing what the Power tells us to do. Most people aren't bright enough to check the numbers.
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The public is quickly catching on.
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(08-04-2021 09:51 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  ICUs are ALWAYS full, pandemic or no.

This.

ICU nurses are very expensive and you are not going to pay a bunch to stand around to keep your occupancy low. Problem is when the beds start to fill up and you can't boost your staffing to account for it. Wife has a couple of friends that went to NY on travel contracts and made ungodly money for 9 week gigs
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(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:41 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Said this in another thread..

Spent a couple days in ICU a couple of weeks ago. Every other bed was empty.

Well, that proves...oh...wait...that proves nothing. But thanks for sharing anyway!

When I am literally sitting here watching the local news saying the exact same hospital is overflowing, then it proves something. They are lying. If they are lying, how can I believe others are not lying?

I've seen the local news lead with how the hospitals are overflowing and barely able to handle the patients. Then they get the doctor on and its, "No, we're doing fine." Last summer I saw the constant narrative about how Houston hospitals were overflowing as I have relatives there. I looked at the actual numbers. Barely got over 50% of maximum capacity. They did reach 100% of stage 1 capacity, but they have a stage 2 and stage 3 plan to re-arrange so they have more beds.
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(08-05-2021 09:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:31 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 08:57 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  This zoom meeting where those CEOs say nearly all COVID patients are unvaccinated?

I dont think you are making the point you think you are making.

If only/majority of unvaccinated are going to the hospital - doesnt that mean the vaccine is doing what it should - preventing you from getting seriously sick. so doesnt that mean that the vaccinated should be able to unmask and go about living their lives. doesnt that also mean that people can then weigh their percieved risk on the vaccine or getting covid.

HMMM seems to me like people should be able to make their own choice?

It seems to me the vaccinated shouldnt be scared of the unvaccinated but the other way around.



And yes, you can remain unvaccinated and get the virus...and try to develop your own immunity, but if large numbers of citizens does that it overwhelms our health care industry and inflates all of our health care costs.

If the original version didn't do that when everyone was not vaccinated then what makes you think the new version will when 40-50% are vaccinated and many more have acquired immunity by having had Covid?

You don't think that would have happened had we not had a vaccine that 70% of the population has gotten so far?

Think what would have happened? The hospitals didn't get overwhelmed with the original version when no one was vaccinated. Remember all the emergency set ups and hospital ships that never got used?
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(08-05-2021 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  I've seen the local news lead with how the hospitals are overflowing and barely able to handle the patients. Then they get the doctor on and its, "No, we're doing fine." Last summer I saw the constant narrative about how Houston hospitals were overflowing as I have relatives there. I looked at the actual numbers. Barely got over 50% of maximum capacity. They did reach 100% of stage 1 capacity, but they have a stage 2 and stage 3 plan to re-arrange so they have more beds.

Remember last year when the media kept showing pictures of overrun hospitals in America, only to find out through "alt-right" news sources that the pictures being shown were of hospitals in Italy? Anyone else remember Trump sending the USS Comfort to New York, only to find that its services were not needed?

One local facility recently reported it had reached capacity and it made the news, but the next day they issued a quiet retraction of the statement that was met with no headlines.

Again, I'm not saying that there isn't a surge going on, but the hype and hysteria is being manipulated for public gain. The issue is more or less related to labor shortages caused by said hype and hysteria (among other things) rather than truly running out of facilities.
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(08-05-2021 10:27 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:43 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:31 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  I dont think you are making the point you think you are making.

If only/majority of unvaccinated are going to the hospital - doesnt that mean the vaccine is doing what it should - preventing you from getting seriously sick. so doesnt that mean that the vaccinated should be able to unmask and go about living their lives. doesnt that also mean that people can then weigh their percieved risk on the vaccine or getting covid.

HMMM seems to me like people should be able to make their own choice?

It seems to me the vaccinated shouldnt be scared of the unvaccinated but the other way around.



And yes, you can remain unvaccinated and get the virus...and try to develop your own immunity, but if large numbers of citizens does that it overwhelms our health care industry and inflates all of our health care costs.

If the original version didn't do that when everyone was not vaccinated then what makes you think the new version will when 40-50% are vaccinated and many more have acquired immunity by having had Covid?

You don't think that would have happened had we not had a vaccine that 70% of the population has gotten so far?

Think what would have happened? The hospitals didn't get overwhelmed with the original version when no one was vaccinated. Remember all the emergency set ups and hospital ships that never got used?
There was a simple reason none the Emergency Government Hospitals and ships were used. Nobody could make money off of them.
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(08-05-2021 10:30 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  There was a simple reason none the Emergency Government Hospitals and ships were used. Nobody could make money off of them.

Oh, but they still got reimbursements and grants for buying or updating equipment or building out expanded bed spaces.
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70% is a narrative. It's much closer to 50% vaccinated.
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(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Good thing in Memphis that they have a 400 bed Covid hospital. Oh wait, never mind. They closed it without ever seeing a patient.

Media hysteria drove an overreaction back in March 20. Why Cuomo didn't put those old folks on to the ship and other places versus sending them back to the nursing home should be asked at his trial.
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(08-05-2021 10:01 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  When I am literally sitting here watching the local news saying the exact same hospital is overflowing, then it proves something. They are lying. If they are lying, how can I believe others are not lying?

Exactly. You were providing an eyewitness account that directly contradicts statements made by "credible" sources.

So, an anonymous poster on an internet message board is a credible source?

Dude.....
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(08-05-2021 10:09 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 09:39 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Just made up.Propaganda in the "News"
Quote:Leaders also said there’s only six ICU beds available throughout the state.
Guess they realize their readers are too stupid and lazy to find this info on their own.
There are actually 67 "Staffed ICU" beds available in MS. Which means if more beds are needed more staff will be called in. UMMS is the free inner city hospital in the Capitol.

Looks like just a mistake in the story...and they don't attribute it to any person or put it in quotes.

Anyway, if you look at the current state of beds at the UMMC, they're at a -11 for Adult Covid beds, so the gist of the story which is solely related to the UMMC being overrun is accurate.
Correct 97 total ICU beds in the hospital and 14 of them occupied by Covid Patients. So what other problem is overloading UMMC? Because it isn't Covid. That should be the Real Story here. It is not a "mistake". It is Propaganda. Like I said, it takes about 10 seconds for a "Journalist" to check to see if it is an accurate statement.
It is still up on my local TV "Newstation" website. This is not an accident. It is to scare people into doing what the Power tells us to do. Most people aren't bright enough to check the numbers.
PROPAGANDA

It's your link that says they currently have -11 Adult Covid beds. The same link you're using to say the state has 67 (now 68) beds available and not 6.
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,...0,873.html

Also, in many of the stories they mention that while they do have beds available, they don't have staff to actually use them. Perhaps that's where they're getting the number 6 from?
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(08-05-2021 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 10:01 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  When I am literally sitting here watching the local news saying the exact same hospital is overflowing, then it proves something. They are lying. If they are lying, how can I believe others are not lying?

Exactly. You were providing an eyewitness account that directly contradicts statements made by "credible" sources.

So, an anonymous poster on an internet message board is a credible source?

Dude.....

IMO, not any less reliable than anything you see on the MSM.
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(08-05-2021 11:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 10:01 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  When I am literally sitting here watching the local news saying the exact same hospital is overflowing, then it proves something. They are lying. If they are lying, how can I believe others are not lying?

Exactly. You were providing an eyewitness account that directly contradicts statements made by "credible" sources.

So, an anonymous poster on an internet message board is a credible source?

Dude.....

IMO, not any less reliable than anything you see on the MSM.

And yet commietom thinks we should find HIM credible. Libtard hypocrisy at its finest.
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(08-05-2021 10:51 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  70% is a narrative. It's much closer to 50% vaccinated.

So hospitals are lying because it does not support your narrative?
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(08-05-2021 09:53 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  All the libtards here do is parrot CNN. If I wanted to hear what CNN had to say I'd watch CNN.


Idiots.

Yep, real patriots stick to trustworthy “news” sources like the gateway pundit.
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I don't get News. I look up data for myself. There is no such thing as "News" in America anymore. And by the way there are 86 staffed ICU beds available in the State of MS now. Sure did move up from 6 fast.MS Hospitilizations
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