https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-e...d-19-cases

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(08-06-2021 05:01 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-e...d-19-cases

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All the News that’s fit to print.


And then some.

https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/cy...79983.html

(08-06-2021 08:59 PM)WRC1975 Wrote:  https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/cy...79983.html

One was a fact-based piece from one of the most reputable papers in the country, albeit one with a liberal bent; the other was an opinion piece from a conservative rag.

(08-06-2021 09:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 08:59 PM)WRC1975 Wrote:  https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/cy...79983.html

One was a fact-based piece from one of the most reputable papers in the country, albeit one with a liberal bent; the other was an opinion piece from a conservative rag.

Wow, you are amazing.

(08-06-2021 09:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 08:59 PM)WRC1975 Wrote:  https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/cy...79983.html

One was a fact-based piece from one of the most reputable papers in the country, albeit one with a liberal bent; the other was an opinion piece from a conservative rag.

FWIW, Molly Ivins -- hardly a conservative -- wrote columns for the Star-Telegram from 1992 to 2001.

(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Ivins)

(08-06-2021 09:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 08:59 PM)WRC1975 Wrote:  https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/cy...79983.html

One was a fact-based piece from one of the most reputable papers in the country, albeit one with a liberal bent; the other was an opinion piece from a conservative rag.

Maybe I missed it, but I was looking for data/analysis in the Star-Telegram piece, but didn’t see any. The most relevant info was specifically about McAllen dealing with this issue, which makes sense based on geography. But I didn’t see a connection between that and rising COVID cases in say, DFW or states like Florida.

Did I miss something?

Seems like an issue that should be addressed, but it sounds like it is given that the ACLU is suing the Biden admin over their decision to continue to use public health measures to expel illegal immigrants immediately, regardless of their claims of asylum. Would be interesting to see if there is data that shows a connection between increasing cases at the boarder that spread to other parts of the state, at least. Wonder if there is contact tracing going on that could show/dispel this?

(08-04-2021 04:24 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 04:00 PM)Musicowl1965 Wrote:  The idiots are at it again!!!

Try blaming your governor and not Rice. Texas is second to only Florida as a Delta hot spot at the moment, with Arkansas and Louisiana nipping at the heals.

Why am I not surprised by this. I guess personal responsibility goes out the door when fear takes its place.

(08-06-2021 08:00 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 07:44 AM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 07:02 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 06:33 AM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 05:38 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I’m suggesting that this is a drop in the bucket in regards to what is going on in the US, and even Texas. It’s just a distraction - community spread as people relax with how they interact in their community is likely driving these surges.

I’m not saying it isn’t problematic or that it is good policy to not screen anyone entering a country (legally or illegal). Somehow, pointing out that this is likely not the primary cause for spread is getting misconstrued… I wonder why.

Some people beat one side of the drum, some beat the other side. I got a bit of grief about my position on masks. Do masks help, even a little bit? Well, yes.

Would it help to keep unvaccinated individuals arriving from a high COVID risk area out of the country even a little bit? Well, yes.

It sure would, and it's something that the government should (and apparently is) focusing on. But IMO, COVID-19 positive illegal immigrants entering the US doesn't seem like something something "causing a big problem nationwide" as was suggested in a previous post.

People across the US, and the world, see government imposed measures to mitigate the spread of COVID as infringing on their civil rights. If the government chooses to selectively apply those measures that's a problem. Maybe not in China, but it is in the US.

The easiest way to deal with the problem is to avoid it occurring. The easiest way to avoid it occurring is to stop illegal immigration.

That is simply not true. Italy just imposed a vaccination mandate which the vast majority of its citizens approved. Even in the U.S., the majority-- over 60%-- support mask mandates to combat the Delta surge. Americans have long been required to be vaccinated for measles and chicken pox. Nowhere in the world has there been such widespread protests (by the minority of it's citizens) for masking, and that's because Trump and the GOP elected to make it political from the get-go. This is a health crisis issue; NOT a civil liberties issue. And while illegal immigration is certainly a problem, it is NOT the cause for the current COVID surge in the U.S., especially not in states such as Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas and South Carolina-- all at the epicenter of the Delta surge-- that have no southern border with illegal immigrants. It's simply a GOP talking point to not only distract, but promote as a culture war in advance in the mid-terms. I'm hearing the caravans now.

You can’t seriously be blaming the previous administration can you??? Go back and watch the last VP debate and tell me what you see. A VP candidate that said “would have to think about taking any vax that came fro Trump”. Basically not trusting the science based on a political ideology!! That statement did more harm than anything that is happening now. And before you say it this is not Fox News talking points. I’m perfectly capable of researching my own facts and don’t need media to form my thoughts for me. Vac requirements are fine (meningitis etc) ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR GENERAL POPULATION USE!! Not there yet but hopefully coming soon. FYI, I see “CNN talking points” on a few of your posts as well.