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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-03-2021 08:54 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:45 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  I guess someone should say something about the B1G maybe inviting Kansas.

Anyone? Anyone?

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My guess is [b]IF they add Kansas they will add Iowa State...Both are AAU Schools[/b]

My guess is that the B1G doesn't need another Nebraska, not to mention two. Kansas and Iowa are low population states, each with split loyalties to two P5 representatives. Kansas may be perceived as a basketball blueblood, but its football program ranks at the bottom of FBS in spite of the resources available to it. And, though AAU, its academic and research metrics rank near the bottom. Nebraska redux?

Since the University of Iowa is already a member of the B1G, what advantage would accrue to the B1G by adding Iowa State as a second? None.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-04-2021 07:02 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 06:47 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Kansas seems like a stretch to me. The SEC just got the two top names on the board. The B1G is going to respsond with #20? There just are not a lot of pluses for Kansas.

Well, they took Rutgers, so...

Are you saying Penn State is threatening to leave if they don't add Kansas??
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-03-2021 08:32 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 04:39 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 02:47 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 09:17 AM)b2b Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:58 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  We are not joining anytime soon so that means the ACC is stuck.
I've often wondered why ND didn't join the other Catholic schools in the Big East. That, to me anyway, seems like a much more logical fit. Plus you wouldn't have had to play the ACC in football which would've freed up the schedule for bigger games.

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The Irish created their ACC scheduling agreement in football out of necessity and is why they did not go with the BIG EAST. When the College Football Playoff started in 2013, Notre Dame didn't have automatic bowl access. The Rose Bowl was taken by the Big Ten and Pac-12. The SEC and Big 12 partnered in the Sugar Bowl. The ACC champion played in the Orange Bowl during years when it wasn't in the playoff.

That's not to say Notre Dame couldn't go to a bowl. It just didn't have any spots reserved for it. So ND & ACC came to an agreement. ND play 5 ACC teams per year and they would have access to the annual ACC Bowl lineup.

FWIW - Swarbrick told The Athletic in 2019 that Notre Dame would be "much better off" going all-in with the ACC. The money would definitely be bigger. Even with and the CFP distribution, Notre Dame's revenue doesn't approach that of an average Power Five program. However ND wants to stay Indy as long as possible...when they are ready to join, the ACC will gladly accept them!

ND's TV revenues are smaller than any P5 program, not total revenues.

But, ND is okay with that. They see it as the price of independence, a price that they gladly pay.

That TV revenue disparity will go down when ND re-negotiates its TV deal that expires in 2025.

You are incorrect that ND's total athletic revenues are lower than P5 schools

ND is currently #5 or 6 (I forget which) in total revenues.
Don't get mad at me...here is the quote....and the link is below..FWIW it is a great read IMHO

“There is no financial advantage to Notre Dame being independent in terms of operations,” Swarbrick said. “It costs us money. We would be much better off all in with the ACC or any Power 5 conference. But it is the broader value it produces. And this is the dynamic that’s always a bit hard to articulate and engage in for the fans just focused on whether you’re going to win the national championship. That is very important to all of us, but the decisions we make don’t just drive to that question.”



Link
https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/...dependent/
Actually it appears Notre Dame is getting a bump from NBC for allowing Streaming on Peacock.

Peacock today announced exclusive live coverage of Notre Dame Football’s 2021 home opener against Toledo on Saturday, September 11. “We are delighted to stream Notre Dame Football on Peacock,” said Pete Bevacqua, Chairman, NBC Sports. “Peacock exemplifies how we’re innovating as a company, and Notre Dame has consistently been a tremendous partner in making progressive choices for sports programming.” Notre Dame Football coverage will stream on Peacock Premium. Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Viewers can sign up at peacocktv.com. Peacock is widely available across devices, details here.Prior to the Notre Dame-Toledo game, Peacock will offer fans a limited time offer to save on Peacock Premium during football season — details will become available at http://www.peacocktv.com/notredame on Wednesday, August 11.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...168708977/

So I guess maybe Swarbrick would have a different opinion today then in 2019 on Media revenue...
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-04-2021 01:05 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:32 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 04:39 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 02:47 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 09:17 AM)b2b Wrote:  I've often wondered why ND didn't join the other Catholic schools in the Big East. That, to me anyway, seems like a much more logical fit. Plus you wouldn't have had to play the ACC in football which would've freed up the schedule for bigger games.

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The Irish created their ACC scheduling agreement in football out of necessity and is why they did not go with the BIG EAST. When the College Football Playoff started in 2013, Notre Dame didn't have automatic bowl access. The Rose Bowl was taken by the Big Ten and Pac-12. The SEC and Big 12 partnered in the Sugar Bowl. The ACC champion played in the Orange Bowl during years when it wasn't in the playoff.

That's not to say Notre Dame couldn't go to a bowl. It just didn't have any spots reserved for it. So ND & ACC came to an agreement. ND play 5 ACC teams per year and they would have access to the annual ACC Bowl lineup.

FWIW - Swarbrick told The Athletic in 2019 that Notre Dame would be "much better off" going all-in with the ACC. The money would definitely be bigger. Even with and the CFP distribution, Notre Dame's revenue doesn't approach that of an average Power Five program. However ND wants to stay Indy as long as possible...when they are ready to join, the ACC will gladly accept them!

ND's TV revenues are smaller than any P5 program, not total revenues.

But, ND is okay with that. They see it as the price of independence, a price that they gladly pay.

That TV revenue disparity will go down when ND re-negotiates its TV deal that expires in 2025.

You are incorrect that ND's total athletic revenues are lower than P5 schools

ND is currently #5 or 6 (I forget which) in total revenues.
Don't get mad at me...here is the quote....and the link is below..FWIW it is a great read IMHO

“There is no financial advantage to Notre Dame being independent in terms of operations,” Swarbrick said. “It costs us money. We would be much better off all in with the ACC or any Power 5 conference. But it is the broader value it produces. And this is the dynamic that’s always a bit hard to articulate and engage in for the fans just focused on whether you’re going to win the national championship. That is very important to all of us, but the decisions we make don’t just drive to that question.”



Link
https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/...dependent/
Actually it appears Notre Dame is getting a bump from NBC for allowing Streaming on Peacock.

Peacock today announced exclusive live coverage of Notre Dame Football’s 2021 home opener against Toledo on Saturday, September 11. “We are delighted to stream Notre Dame Football on Peacock,” said Pete Bevacqua, Chairman, NBC Sports. “Peacock exemplifies how we’re innovating as a company, and Notre Dame has consistently been a tremendous partner in making progressive choices for sports programming.” Notre Dame Football coverage will stream on Peacock Premium. Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Viewers can sign up at peacocktv.com. Peacock is widely available across devices, details here.Prior to the Notre Dame-Toledo game, Peacock will offer fans a limited time offer to save on Peacock Premium during football season — details will become available at http://www.peacocktv.com/notredame on Wednesday, August 11.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...168708977/

So I guess maybe Swarbrick would have a different opinion today then in 2019 on Media revenue...

When VT's game at Marshall was on CBSSN? (I think it was) I had to subscribe to that pay channel for a day and they charged me a $10 change fee with whatever the fee was for the channel. It sucked but I was willing to do it.

Now ND fans have to subscribe to Peacock and ACCN to see 1 ND game a season. I think ND had a deal to have one game one of the NBCSN, so you'd have to subscribe to 3 channels and have the rest split between NBC and ABC if it was an ACC home game. Maybe ND should just save one game a year for a ND Pay Per View. Charge $29.99 and see how many people sign up.

At some point though it will alienate parts of the fan base. No doom and gloom here, I'd just rather games be available to all viewers than not.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-04-2021 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 01:05 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:32 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 04:39 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 02:47 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  The Irish created their ACC scheduling agreement in football out of necessity and is why they did not go with the BIG EAST. When the College Football Playoff started in 2013, Notre Dame didn't have automatic bowl access. The Rose Bowl was taken by the Big Ten and Pac-12. The SEC and Big 12 partnered in the Sugar Bowl. The ACC champion played in the Orange Bowl during years when it wasn't in the playoff.

That's not to say Notre Dame couldn't go to a bowl. It just didn't have any spots reserved for it. So ND & ACC came to an agreement. ND play 5 ACC teams per year and they would have access to the annual ACC Bowl lineup.

FWIW - Swarbrick told The Athletic in 2019 that Notre Dame would be "much better off" going all-in with the ACC. The money would definitely be bigger. Even with and the CFP distribution, Notre Dame's revenue doesn't approach that of an average Power Five program. However ND wants to stay Indy as long as possible...when they are ready to join, the ACC will gladly accept them!

ND's TV revenues are smaller than any P5 program, not total revenues.

But, ND is okay with that. They see it as the price of independence, a price that they gladly pay.

That TV revenue disparity will go down when ND re-negotiates its TV deal that expires in 2025.

You are incorrect that ND's total athletic revenues are lower than P5 schools

ND is currently #5 or 6 (I forget which) in total revenues.
Don't get mad at me...here is the quote....and the link is below..FWIW it is a great read IMHO

“There is no financial advantage to Notre Dame being independent in terms of operations,” Swarbrick said. “It costs us money. We would be much better off all in with the ACC or any Power 5 conference. But it is the broader value it produces. And this is the dynamic that’s always a bit hard to articulate and engage in for the fans just focused on whether you’re going to win the national championship. That is very important to all of us, but the decisions we make don’t just drive to that question.”



Link
https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/...dependent/
Actually it appears Notre Dame is getting a bump from NBC for allowing Streaming on Peacock.

Peacock today announced exclusive live coverage of Notre Dame Football’s 2021 home opener against Toledo on Saturday, September 11. “We are delighted to stream Notre Dame Football on Peacock,” said Pete Bevacqua, Chairman, NBC Sports. “Peacock exemplifies how we’re innovating as a company, and Notre Dame has consistently been a tremendous partner in making progressive choices for sports programming.” Notre Dame Football coverage will stream on Peacock Premium. Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Viewers can sign up at peacocktv.com. Peacock is widely available across devices, details here.Prior to the Notre Dame-Toledo game, Peacock will offer fans a limited time offer to save on Peacock Premium during football season — details will become available at http://www.peacocktv.com/notredame on Wednesday, August 11.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...168708977/

So I guess maybe Swarbrick would have a different opinion today then in 2019 on Media revenue...

When VT's game at Marshall was on CBSSN? (I think it was) I had to subscribe to that pay channel for a day and they charged me a $10 change fee with whatever the fee was for the channel. It sucked but I was willing to do it.

Now ND fans have to subscribe to Peacock and ACCN to see 1 ND game a season. I think ND had a deal to have one game one of the NBCSN, so you'd have to subscribe to 3 channels and have the rest split between NBC and ABC if it was an ACC home game. Maybe ND should just save one game a year for a ND Pay Per View. Charge $29.99 and see how many people sign up.

At some point though it will alienate parts of the fan base. No doom and gloom here, I'd just rather games be available to all viewers than not.


This is a non-event to me.

Peacock, ACC Network, ESPN, NBC, ABC....who cares?

You are correct, NBC has a provision that allows it to move one game a year from NBC to another platform.

It used to be NBCSN. It was USA Network last year. Now, its Peacock.

Tell me when kickoff is and I will watch the game wherever it is televised.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-04-2021 04:36 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 01:05 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:32 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 04:39 PM)TerryD Wrote:  ND's TV revenues are smaller than any P5 program, not total revenues.

But, ND is okay with that. They see it as the price of independence, a price that they gladly pay.

That TV revenue disparity will go down when ND re-negotiates its TV deal that expires in 2025.

You are incorrect that ND's total athletic revenues are lower than P5 schools

ND is currently #5 or 6 (I forget which) in total revenues.
Don't get mad at me...here is the quote....and the link is below..FWIW it is a great read IMHO

“There is no financial advantage to Notre Dame being independent in terms of operations,” Swarbrick said. “It costs us money. We would be much better off all in with the ACC or any Power 5 conference. But it is the broader value it produces. And this is the dynamic that’s always a bit hard to articulate and engage in for the fans just focused on whether you’re going to win the national championship. That is very important to all of us, but the decisions we make don’t just drive to that question.”



Link
https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/...dependent/
Actually it appears Notre Dame is getting a bump from NBC for allowing Streaming on Peacock.

Peacock today announced exclusive live coverage of Notre Dame Football’s 2021 home opener against Toledo on Saturday, September 11. “We are delighted to stream Notre Dame Football on Peacock,” said Pete Bevacqua, Chairman, NBC Sports. “Peacock exemplifies how we’re innovating as a company, and Notre Dame has consistently been a tremendous partner in making progressive choices for sports programming.” Notre Dame Football coverage will stream on Peacock Premium. Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Viewers can sign up at peacocktv.com. Peacock is widely available across devices, details here.Prior to the Notre Dame-Toledo game, Peacock will offer fans a limited time offer to save on Peacock Premium during football season — details will become available at http://www.peacocktv.com/notredame on Wednesday, August 11.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...168708977/

So I guess maybe Swarbrick would have a different opinion today then in 2019 on Media revenue...

When VT's game at Marshall was on CBSSN? (I think it was) I had to subscribe to that pay channel for a day and they charged me a $10 change fee with whatever the fee was for the channel. It sucked but I was willing to do it.

Now ND fans have to subscribe to Peacock and ACCN to see 1 ND game a season. I think ND had a deal to have one game one of the NBCSN, so you'd have to subscribe to 3 channels and have the rest split between NBC and ABC if it was an ACC home game. Maybe ND should just save one game a year for a ND Pay Per View. Charge $29.99 and see how many people sign up.

At some point though it will alienate parts of the fan base. No doom and gloom here, I'd just rather games be available to all viewers than not.


This is a non-event to me.

Peacock, ACC Network, ESPN, NBC, ABC....who cares?

You are correct, NBC has a provision that allows it to move one game a year from NBC to another platform.

It used to be NBCSN. It was USA Network last year. Now, its Peacock.

Tell me when kickoff is and I will watch the game wherever it is televised.

It could've been worse... could've been on the Big Ten Network.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-03-2021 08:54 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:45 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  I guess someone should say something about the B1G maybe inviting Kansas.

Anyone? Anyone?

07-coffee3

My guess is IF they add Kansas they will add Iowa State...Both are AAU Schools

Link
Big Ten Reportedly Only Interested in AAU Schools: https://pistolsfiringblog.com/big-ten-re...clude-osu/

Link
What would the Big Ten look like with the addition of Kansas and Iowa State? Big16
https://www.insidenu.com/2021/7/29/22597...iowa-state

POD A
Iowa
Iowa State
Nebraska
Kansas

POD B
Illinois
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Minnesota

POD C
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue

POD D
Maryland
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Offering Kansas makes perfect sense for the B1G. It makes even more sense for the ACC. Kansas is a blue blood basketball program and the ACC should have scooped them up when they had a chance. The ACC has an opportunity to create the best basketball college league in the country but they are going to pass it up. I realize that people on this message board do not look at cable companies earnings, but the cable model in which college football is a cash cow is undergoing a lot of changes. Things are changing because of cord cutting of cable subscriptions and a move towards internet streaming is underway. The B1G must have realized that Kansas is a big brand in basketball (unfortunately, i guess this means that the new ACC management team is probably not all that different from the old team and probably do not realize these new media opportunities).
I was hoping that the ACC management team would do something because if they don't the conference will end a few years before 2036 when the grant of rights is over.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-04-2021 01:05 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:32 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 04:39 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 02:47 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 09:17 AM)b2b Wrote:  I've often wondered why ND didn't join the other Catholic schools in the Big East. That, to me anyway, seems like a much more logical fit. Plus you wouldn't have had to play the ACC in football which would've freed up the schedule for bigger games.

Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

The Irish created their ACC scheduling agreement in football out of necessity and is why they did not go with the BIG EAST. When the College Football Playoff started in 2013, Notre Dame didn't have automatic bowl access. The Rose Bowl was taken by the Big Ten and Pac-12. The SEC and Big 12 partnered in the Sugar Bowl. The ACC champion played in the Orange Bowl during years when it wasn't in the playoff.

That's not to say Notre Dame couldn't go to a bowl. It just didn't have any spots reserved for it. So ND & ACC came to an agreement. ND play 5 ACC teams per year and they would have access to the annual ACC Bowl lineup.

FWIW - Swarbrick told The Athletic in 2019 that Notre Dame would be "much better off" going all-in with the ACC. The money would definitely be bigger. Even with and the CFP distribution, Notre Dame's revenue doesn't approach that of an average Power Five program. However ND wants to stay Indy as long as possible...when they are ready to join, the ACC will gladly accept them!

ND's TV revenues are smaller than any P5 program, not total revenues.

But, ND is okay with that. They see it as the price of independence, a price that they gladly pay.

That TV revenue disparity will go down when ND re-negotiates its TV deal that expires in 2025.

You are incorrect that ND's total athletic revenues are lower than P5 schools

ND is currently #5 or 6 (I forget which) in total revenues.
Don't get mad at me...here is the quote....and the link is below..FWIW it is a great read IMHO

“There is no financial advantage to Notre Dame being independent in terms of operations,” Swarbrick said. “It costs us money. We would be much better off all in with the ACC or any Power 5 conference. But it is the broader value it produces. And this is the dynamic that’s always a bit hard to articulate and engage in for the fans just focused on whether you’re going to win the national championship. That is very important to all of us, but the decisions we make don’t just drive to that question.”



Link
https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/...dependent/
Actually it appears Notre Dame is getting a bump from NBC for allowing Streaming on Peacock.

Peacock today announced exclusive live coverage of Notre Dame Football’s 2021 home opener against Toledo on Saturday, September 11. “We are delighted to stream Notre Dame Football on Peacock,” said Pete Bevacqua, Chairman, NBC Sports. “Peacock exemplifies how we’re innovating as a company, and Notre Dame has consistently been a tremendous partner in making progressive choices for sports programming.” Notre Dame Football coverage will stream on Peacock Premium. Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Viewers can sign up at peacocktv.com. Peacock is widely available across devices, details here.Prior to the Notre Dame-Toledo game, Peacock will offer fans a limited time offer to save on Peacock Premium during football season — details will become available at http://www.peacocktv.com/notredame on Wednesday, August 11.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...168708977/

So I guess maybe Swarbrick would have a different opinion today then in 2019 on Media revenue...
Streaming should add some value to the ND contract because it is going to bring in more money for NBC (Peacock streaming). In fact i would not be surprised if the networks put part of the games on cable TV and part on their streaming product. That way college fans will have to subscribe to both packages and spend more money. This will bring in more revenue for ESPN, ESPN+ (streaming) Disney streaming, NBC (Peacock), CBS (Paramount+). Its going to be great for earnings for these companies. I am certainly on board as an investor in these companies. Its not going to be good for the consumers but hey, when has wall street cared about the consumers. They will of course spin it so that it give people more choice.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-04-2021 04:36 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-04-2021 01:05 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 08:32 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  
(08-03-2021 04:39 PM)TerryD Wrote:  ND's TV revenues are smaller than any P5 program, not total revenues.

But, ND is okay with that. They see it as the price of independence, a price that they gladly pay.

That TV revenue disparity will go down when ND re-negotiates its TV deal that expires in 2025.

You are incorrect that ND's total athletic revenues are lower than P5 schools

ND is currently #5 or 6 (I forget which) in total revenues.
Don't get mad at me...here is the quote....and the link is below..FWIW it is a great read IMHO

“There is no financial advantage to Notre Dame being independent in terms of operations,” Swarbrick said. “It costs us money. We would be much better off all in with the ACC or any Power 5 conference. But it is the broader value it produces. And this is the dynamic that’s always a bit hard to articulate and engage in for the fans just focused on whether you’re going to win the national championship. That is very important to all of us, but the decisions we make don’t just drive to that question.”



Link
https://theathletic.com/1068782/2019/07/...dependent/
Actually it appears Notre Dame is getting a bump from NBC for allowing Streaming on Peacock.

Peacock today announced exclusive live coverage of Notre Dame Football’s 2021 home opener against Toledo on Saturday, September 11. “We are delighted to stream Notre Dame Football on Peacock,” said Pete Bevacqua, Chairman, NBC Sports. “Peacock exemplifies how we’re innovating as a company, and Notre Dame has consistently been a tremendous partner in making progressive choices for sports programming.” Notre Dame Football coverage will stream on Peacock Premium. Peacock Premium is included at no additional cost for Comcast’s eligible Xfinity X1 and Flex customers and Cox Contour customers. Viewers can sign up at peacocktv.com. Peacock is widely available across devices, details here.Prior to the Notre Dame-Toledo game, Peacock will offer fans a limited time offer to save on Peacock Premium during football season — details will become available at http://www.peacocktv.com/notredame on Wednesday, August 11.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...168708977/

So I guess maybe Swarbrick would have a different opinion today then in 2019 on Media revenue...

When VT's game at Marshall was on CBSSN? (I think it was) I had to subscribe to that pay channel for a day and they charged me a $10 change fee with whatever the fee was for the channel. It sucked but I was willing to do it.

Now ND fans have to subscribe to Peacock and ACCN to see 1 ND game a season. I think ND had a deal to have one game one of the NBCSN, so you'd have to subscribe to 3 channels and have the rest split between NBC and ABC if it was an ACC home game. Maybe ND should just save one game a year for a ND Pay Per View. Charge $29.99 and see how many people sign up.

At some point though it will alienate parts of the fan base. No doom and gloom here, I'd just rather games be available to all viewers than not.


This is a non-event to me.

Peacock, ACC Network, ESPN, NBC, ABC....who cares?

You are correct, NBC has a provision that allows it to move one game a year from NBC to another platform.

It used to be NBCSN. It was USA Network last year. Now, its Peacock.

Tell me when kickoff is and I will watch the game wherever it is televised.

ND fans will care once they realize that they will have to pay more to see their team (i.e. - a subscription to Peacock) in addition to their cable packages. Investors in Comcast and Disney will care because this going to help with earnings, higher dividends and higher stock prices. All College football fans (SEC, B1G, ACC, Pac 12) will be hit with extra costs to watch the same number of games because the games will be split between the regular cable network and the streaming service. That's the way things are heading. Its not all bad though because by getting the streaming service in addition to your cable package, you will get a lot more content to watch.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
From a Big 10 fan's standpoint, I've always rather the Big 10 expand east than west. Yes, I know the ACC schools aren't available until the GOR expires. But if Kansas, Iowa State, Colorado, or any other Pac 12 schools join the Big 10 it takes away potential slots for ACC schools and/or discourages ACC schools from coming in. Any fans on this board want to be in a conference with Colorado? I didn't think so. If the Big 10 goes big with the Pac 12 they might as well just tell the SEC they can have anyone from the ACC they want.
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UConn is also a large brand in basketball with much success this century, yet they are not getting in. Enough with the Kansas.
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With few exceptions, the B1G could have had anyone they want any time they wanted... and haven't.

I think they're a little gun shy after the Rutgers and Maryland moves.
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(08-05-2021 07:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  With few exceptions, the B1G could have had anyone they want any time they wanted... and haven't.

I think they're a little gun shy after the Rutgers and Maryland moves.

A Kansas and UConn/ISU/Colorado addition would make Rutgers and Maryland look like good adds. At least they bring big markets and Maryland has a good all around athletics department.
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RE: Latest rumor - Forget Clemson / Florida State - now its Kansas to the Big 10 imminent
(08-05-2021 08:26 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 07:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  With few exceptions, the B1G could have had anyone they want any time they wanted... and haven't.

I think they're a little gun shy after the Rutgers and Maryland moves.

A Kansas and UConn/ISU/Colorado addition would make Rutgers and Maryland look like good adds. At least they bring big markets and Maryland has a good all around athletics department.

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Big Ten should add Kansas and UConn, try to unseat the ACC as best hoops conference.
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(08-05-2021 08:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 08:26 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 07:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  With few exceptions, the B1G could have had anyone they want any time they wanted... and haven't.

I think they're a little gun shy after the Rutgers and Maryland moves.

A Kansas and UConn/ISU/Colorado addition would make Rutgers and Maryland look like good adds. At least they bring big markets and Maryland has a good all around athletics department.

03-shhhh

Big Ten should add Kansas and UConn, try to unseat the ACC as best hoops conference.

You make that sound like a bad thing.
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(08-05-2021 09:01 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 08:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 08:26 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 07:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  With few exceptions, the B1G could have had anyone they want any time they wanted... and haven't.

I think they're a little gun shy after the Rutgers and Maryland moves.

A Kansas and UConn/ISU/Colorado addition would make Rutgers and Maryland look like good adds. At least they bring big markets and Maryland has a good all around athletics department.

03-shhhh

Big Ten should add Kansas and UConn, try to unseat the ACC as best hoops conference.

You make that sound like a bad thing.

No, no, it's the GREATEST THING EVER! The Big Ten should totally do this!!!
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(08-05-2021 11:14 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 09:01 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 08:57 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 08:26 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(08-05-2021 07:01 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  With few exceptions, the B1G could have had anyone they want any time they wanted... and haven't.

I think they're a little gun shy after the Rutgers and Maryland moves.

A Kansas and UConn/ISU/Colorado addition would make Rutgers and Maryland look like good adds. At least they bring big markets and Maryland has a good all around athletics department.

03-shhhh

Big Ten should add Kansas and UConn, try to unseat the ACC as best hoops conference.

You make that sound like a bad thing.

No, no, it's the GREATEST THING EVER! The Big Ten should totally do this!!!
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I am not sure selling B1G basketball to a world audience would work as well as the ACC doing it because the ACC is a better basketball league. Creating a super league with a the best teams from every conference and selling it to a world audience would be the ultimate in team work to enrich each conference. It would be difficult to do but the money involved is huge. I suspect it would be too difficult right now with all the conference ty ins.
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The acc doesn’t need KU. If they want an outpost, better to add TCU for the Texas foothold than go after a basketball power.
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(08-06-2021 09:43 AM)bluesox Wrote:  The acc doesn’t need KU. If they want an outpost, better to add TCU for the Texas foothold than go after a basketball power.

100% agreed.

In fact, I'd rather take Iowa State than Kansas - good support for football (and with this new Mediacom deal, switching them to in-footprint would automatically provide a $21M boost, so they'd only have to generate another $13M or so to pay for themselves).
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(08-05-2021 12:37 AM)tj_2009 Wrote:  Offering Kansas makes perfect sense for the B1G. It makes even more sense for the ACC. Kansas is a blue blood basketball program and the ACC should have scooped them up when they had a chance. The ACC has an opportunity to create the best basketball college league in the country but they are going to pass it up.
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I don't think anyone can credibly make the argument that the ACC missed its shot at creating a basketball rep for itself.

Sorry, Kansas makes no sense in the ACC. That's the kind of bid that would, if it had a real chance of happening, send Florida State and Clemson packing within the hour.

Kansas looks more credible in the B1G--mainly because the B1G already specialises in big, boring AAU farmland schools. The B1G would still need to overlook the way the Jayhawks, in the decade since the last upheaval, have done nothing more to recommend themselves. The Jayhawks haven't won more than 3 football games a season in that entire span while going winless in the B12 five times. That's a pretty sad try-out if your goal is to move up.

But maybe the B1G needs a practice dummy. We'll see. 07-coffee3

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