(08-06-2021 10:04 AM)Tribe4SF Wrote:  

(08-06-2021 08:11 AM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(08-05-2021 04:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(08-04-2021 04:51 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  I’ve always thought there was a spot for an Eastern seaboard version of the MAC. The CAA is a shell for that though I would like to see UMass and Temple added. Those with a stadium under 10,000 should be exiled - UAlbany, URI and Richmond.

ECU isn’t leaving the AAC to join some new conference. I could see the AAC adding ODU and Marshall if they get poached.

lol

Nothing has been funnier than watching Temple pretend to be an FBS program. Well, maybe UMass.

Can't group Temple with UMass. In 2019 then went 8-5 losing to UNC in a bowl game and having two wins over top 25 teams. UConn yes, but not Temple.

I see that, they have actually improved quite a bit the past 5 years though they did lose to UNC in that bowl game 55-13. We’ve never beaten UNC though I don’t think we’ve ever lost to them that badly. Temple was 1-6 last year.

I actually think UConn is in a far better position being the only team in CT and with no pro competition either. And their basketball gives them a better pedigree. They have all the factors you would need to build and remain FBS.

The problem for Temple is geography. All of the eastern schools are now either ACC or Big 10. There’s no way they are gaining entry into either one. I certainly think they are a cut above the CAA though they do struggle in games with us - Villanova for one. We beat them last time we played. They used to have a very bitter football rivalry with Delaware as well.

Maybe the door would open for Army and Navy. Then you could add UMass, UConn, maybe Temple. There would be a need for more teams on the seaboard so it could present itself for the upper tier of the CAA to fold in - Delaware, JMU, Villanova. I would hope our new AD would work hard to push us in. It’s the only possible upgrade I can see available to W&M in football. As a football conference, I think that would be very appealing for W&M. That would be your East Coast MAC.

(08-08-2021 06:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Yeah, you might want to look at our last decade before making assumptions about our program.

I'm not trying to disparage what Temple has done or the State of their program. They have had some great teams. The whole point is what is going to happen going forward if this grand realignment happens. It will undoubtedly lead to a larger gap between the haves and the have nots. You may not like to hear the comparisons with these other schools, but the new reality could very well put Temple closer to the high end FCS level than they are to the high end FBS schools. Perhaps this doesn't materialize, but the tea leaves are pointing towards mid tier FBS programs having to do some serious soul searching as to where they can afford to compete.

Who tf cares about Temple

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(08-08-2021 06:13 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Yeah, you might want to look at our last decade before making assumptions about our program.

I looked. 52-45? That's what we should have been paying closer attention to? 4 head coaches since 2013, including one who was hired and then left before coaching a game? On the Temple football Wikipedia page (which looks like it was written by the Temple AD) there are two rivalries listed: Penn State, 4-40-1, and Villanova, 16-16-2. 4-40-1 is overstating it, too, as Temple won 3 of the first 4 meetings. On the other side, Temple is 4-3 vs. Villanova since 2000, 4-2 since 2010. Tell me again about big-time Temple football. Temple belongs in FCS, along with almost the entire AAC.

To be fair I think the AAC is one of the stronger G5 leagues. Of course, being "one of the stronger G5 leagues" is a bit like kissing your sister.

(08-09-2021 02:33 PM)A Quest Called Tribe Wrote:  To be fair I think the AAC is one of the stronger G5 leagues. Of course, being "one of the stronger G5 leagues" is a bit like kissing your sister.

...or being one of the better Store Brand ground coffees.

(08-09-2021 01:46 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  You can trash us all you want, but you'll never play FBS football.

Things W&M and Temple have in common.

(08-09-2021 02:51 PM)billymac Wrote:  

(08-09-2021 02:33 PM)A Quest Called Tribe Wrote:  To be fair I think the AAC is one of the stronger G5 leagues. Of course, being "one of the stronger G5 leagues" is a bit like kissing your sister.

...or being one of the better Store Brand ground coffees.

Or the SEC of FCS...

(08-09-2021 04:53 PM)WMInTheBurg Wrote:  

(08-09-2021 01:46 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  You can trash us all you want, but you'll never play FBS football.

Things W&M and Temple have in common.

(08-09-2021 05:05 PM)TribeNomad Wrote:  

(08-09-2021 04:53 PM)WMInTheBurg Wrote:  

(08-09-2021 01:46 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  You can trash us all you want, but you'll never play FBS football.

Things W&M and Temple have in common.

Members of the last graduating class at W&M to enjoy a winning football season received their diplomas in 2016. Hoping class of ‘22 has similar good fortune. Even then I’m not sure Tribe fans will be in a position to cast a whole lot of asparagus.

(08-09-2021 05:26 PM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Members of the last graduating class at W&M to enjoy a winning football season received their diplomas in 2016. Hoping class of ‘22 has similar good fortune. Even then I’m not sure Tribe fans will be in a position to cast a whole lot of asparagus.

Well, if you are going to cast asparagus, at least cut off and save the tips and just cast the stems...

Great, Temple guy going after W&M. We've really hit rock bottom.

I really miss the old CAAzone days. Smack talk was highly entertaining. ODU vs VCU week was difficult to follow.

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(07-31-2021 07:28 PM)tribelifer Wrote:  

(07-31-2021 08:40 AM)Florida tribe fan Wrote:  Tribe fans take great comfort in knowing that no one is better equipped to generate contingency plans and navigate through the turbulence than the CAA commissioner.

This made me laugh out loud. Thanks for the chuckle.
In actuality, we should be so lucky.

Perhaps the commissioner is blessed with an opportunity to demonstrate his prowess?

https://www.winchesterstar.com/lifestyle...e5940.html

Sounds positive for JMU, not so much the rest of us.

How viable are the C-USA and the Sun Belt, even given a geographically sound realignment, after the Power 5 become some version of the Power 4 (or one super conference)?

I assume the big boys are breaking away from the NCAA (at least in football) and taking all the TV revenue with them.

That is the multi million dollar question. How viable will these mid tier FBS conferences be with only regional TV coverage? Feels like a lot of programs are overextended in their spending. Can they survive off local TV, ticket sales, parking, and concessions? If the big boys are unwilling to share the wealth (ie buy games, national TV deals, meaningful $$ bowl games), I'm not sure the money generated by the AACs, the MACs, and the CUSAs will be enough to sustain their current overhead. The NCAA and its rules were really the only guardrail making the big schools act responsibly. Now that the NCAA has started to lose all of its teeth, I'd imagine you'll have the major conferences bullying network TV into exclusive deals and the rest of college sports will be streamed online or on regional deals. You know, kind of like it's always been for us this entire time.
I hope my apocalyptic outlook doesn't happen. There just doesn't seem a lot of incentive for those in power to want anything different.

(08-09-2021 07:30 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Great, Temple guy going after W&M. We've really hit rock bottom.

I really miss the old CAAzone days. Smack talk was highly entertaining. ODU vs VCU week was difficult to follow.

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Then there was Thunders.....

This thread is full of tumbleweed.

It should be retired.

(08-10-2021 11:41 AM)wmmii Wrote:  This thread is full of tumbleweed.

It should be retired.

I chuckle when posters add to a thread they want retired. We have limited access to football camp, a daily rundown on all the basketball players committed elsewhere, and Nathan Knight. These messy threads should expire in 25 days...hang in there.

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(08-10-2021 02:29 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(08-09-2021 07:30 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Great, Temple guy going after W&M. We've really hit rock bottom.

I really miss the old CAAzone days. Smack talk was highly entertaining. ODU vs VCU week was difficult to follow.

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I think rock bottom is taking shots at an FBS program when you've never played at that level while watching ODU surpass you.

Except we played "at that level" for about 80 years. Nice attempt at weak smack.

It's telling that you have nothing better to do than come to a lowly W&M forum trying to convince us to care about Temple. Are you still mad because the last time we played you, we embarrassed you at home?

BTW, did your school really pay $3.2m in a single year for a HC who has since produced a losing record?

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