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You still want your school to go to Big 12?
Mike Aresco is ballin. Running circles around B12 commish

ESPN firmly on side of AAC. B12 made an enemy of ESPN, which probably means ESPN will try to destroy B12.

B12 TV value just dropped like a rock. ESPN won't bid on next contract and they might get peanuts.

Do you still want to go to Big 12?
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No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft
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(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.
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(07-28-2021 08:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.

Be serious - any Big XII school is a top half program in the AAC. That's why they are good adds.
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RE: You still want your school to go to Big 12?
(07-28-2021 08:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.

I thought you guys from Tulane were smart.
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RE: You still want your school to go to Big 12?
(07-28-2021 08:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.
The only way they are moving here is if they add value. That value is determined by ESPN who is pulling the strings. ESPN can incentivize them by bumping up our contract while still saving money overall.

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(07-28-2021 08:30 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.

I thought you guys from Tulane were smart.

Most Tulane fans are either insanely overconfident or self-hating and want the teams buried in D3. Only about 20% of our fan base has a real grasp on where the sportsball teams sit.

Tulane is the 8th or 9th most interesting AAC property (all things considered). It's nothing close to getting kicked out, but we're kind of like Wake or Pitt or Syracuse in the ACC. We're not why new teams come.
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(07-28-2021 08:28 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.

Be serious - any Big XII school is a top half program in the AAC. That's why they are good adds.

Those teams are used to getting 4 and 5 star recruits frim their association with OU and Texas. I bet their programs take a nice dive in the next couple years without that association.
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I still think the best solution for all of us is Aresco to force a merger with him as the commish.
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RE: You still want your school to go to Big 12?
i think the general consensus after todays event is

1) aac w/ raided big 12 +their autonomous status
2) big 8 + aac teams
3) aac as is

i still think option 2 is the most likely thing to happen... but i definitely prefer option 1.. i dont like the idea of being the enemy of ESPN.. and Aresco >>>> Bowlsby

bowlsby has the big 12 in indecisive survival mode...aresco has been proactive in conference growth and strength..

but something about this whole thing is how happy aac teams are in the aac outside of money and "label".. cincy, houston, ucf fans are mostly rejoicing at the move today and not gripping about being potential being stuck in the aac..
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(07-28-2021 08:35 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:28 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:27 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:25 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  No. The real question is which of the Big 12 poors we want to throw a life raft

None of them add any value whatsoever but ultimately I think we have to take who ESPN tells us to take so we can get broke off some of that sweet bread.

Be serious - any Big XII school is a top half program in the AAC. That's why they are good adds.

Those teams are used to getting 4 and 5 star recruits frim their association with OU and Texas. I bet their programs take a nice dive in the next couple years without that association.

I thought the same thing. The B12 conference was up there. Individually those teams without mommy and daddy aren't getting those players. Memphis will have better recruiting grounds than Iowa State. The B12's will dip and we'll go up. It's worse for them and better for all of us.

Serves them right. They've been living off the Texas Teet for years. No Mo, No Mo.
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RE: You still want your school to go to Big 12?
Something Big is going to go down. Who will win. Will ESPN/AAC win out? Will B12 gut AAC? Will there be a merger of sorts (this is what I think will happen eventually).

Who knows, but this is interesting.
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To answer the question, No. If you remember from my prior posts I was very luke warm about a conference that puts Cincy no closer to regional rivals. I was also hesitant to lose games with Memphis, Houston, and Ucf. In a perfect world, we add 1. Wvu 2. Iowa state 3. Texas Tech. I think Kansas and Osu are out of reach. I do not want Kansas State or Baylor. If we take Tcu that makes us very Texas heavy.
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Bowlsby committed conference suicide today. Their value has tanked so tremendously with the allegations made against ESPN. They’re screwed.
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Time for an airport meeting…
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(07-28-2021 08:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  i think the general consensus after todays event is

1) aac w/ raided big 12 +their autonomous status
2) big 8 + aac teams
3) aac as is

i still think option 2 is the most likely thing to happen... but i definitely prefer option 1.. i dont like the idea of being the enemy of ESPN.. and Aresco >>>> Bowlsby

bowlsby has the big 12 in indecisive survival mode...aresco has been proactive in conference growth and strength..

but something about this whole thing is how happy aac teams are in the aac outside of money and "label".. cincy, houston, ucf fans are mostly rejoicing at the move today and not gripping about being potential being stuck in the aac..

From everything I heard, It was Cincy, Memphis, and UCF to the B12. That's from other people with sources and not me. Houston isn't really loved by the other Texas schools for whatever reason. Your ratings are low, your attendance is low and your on field performance right now is low. I think it would have been Houston too, but I also heard BYU as the fourth team.

Memphis Cincy and UCF have the best ratings (along with USF) by far. There is a big gap between those four and the fifth team. They have the best attendance. Houston has the biggest market but most of the people in Houston are Texas fans I guess.

Edit: ECU has great attendance too, but their viewership is 1/3 of the top four teams.
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Conference mates can anyone review my past posts about this conference?

We have parity. I garuntee you that. We all matter. I have loved this conference since almost a year into it because I knew our strength. When Wichita joined it was perfect. The fruit of our valuable institutions and enjoying truly worthy and exceptional competition is right here. Enjoy the fruit I don’t know what Cincinnati is doing on Twitter saying they want to leave. We can have upward mobility here we just need to stand strong. Please believe I love this conference
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(07-28-2021 09:08 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  From everything I heard, It was Cincy, Memphis, and UCF to the B12. That's from other people with sources and not me. Houston isn't really loved by the other Texas schools for whatever reason. Your ratings are low, your attendance is low and your on field performance right now is low. I think it would have been Houston too, but I also heard BYU as the fourth team.

Memphis Cincy and UCF have the best ratings (along with USF) by far. There is a big gap between those four and the fifth team. They have the best attendance. Houston has the biggest market but most of the people in Houston are Texas fans I guess.

Edit: ECU has great attendance too, but their viewership is 1/3 of the top four teams.

this is great and all... but it is already confirmed the big 12 have barely talked about the expansion ....

but that the only 3 confirmed teams they talked about is BYU, Cincy and Houston....

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/
Quote:they talked on a shallow surface of, ‘What do we do if Oklahoma and Texas leave?’ And they talked about Cincinnati, Houston, BYU. They’re all great programs, but none that obviously bring the value of Oklahoma and Texas and those brand names

there has not been 1 legitimate media outlet to link memphis to the big 12 through sources ..and numerous from 2016 that said memphis wasnt in the running

im not going to argue who is better from ratings or whatever...it doesnt matter how we justify anything to ourselves it wont make a difference, to the decision makers, our opinions dont matter.. its who are linked from legitimate sources...

the "i know a guy thing" was the same thing memphis did in 2016 till official media sources said otherwise
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(07-28-2021 09:14 PM)Starfox207 Wrote:  Conference mates can anyone review my past posts about this conference?

We have parity. I garuntee you that. We all matter. I have loved this conference since almost a year into it because I knew our strength. When Wichita joined it was perfect. The fruit of our valuable institutions and enjoying truly worthy and exceptional competition is right here. Enjoy the fruit I don’t know what Cincinnati is doing on Twitter saying they want to leave. We can have upward mobility here we just need to stand strong. Please believe I love this conference

Cincy is going heavy Ho right now. I think they want in the ACC.
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(07-28-2021 09:21 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 09:08 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  From everything I heard, It was Cincy, Memphis, and UCF to the B12. That's from other people with sources and not me. Houston isn't really loved by the other Texas schools for whatever reason. Your ratings are low, your attendance is low and your on field performance right now is low. I think it would have been Houston too, but I also heard BYU as the fourth team.

Memphis Cincy and UCF have the best ratings (along with USF) by far. There is a big gap between those four and the fifth team. They have the best attendance. Houston has the biggest market but most of the people in Houston are Texas fans I guess.

Edit: ECU has great attendance too, but their viewership is 1/3 of the top four teams.

this is great and all... but it is already confirmed the big 12 have barely talked about the expansion ....

but that the only 3 confirmed teams they talked about is BYU, Cincy and Houston....

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/
Quote:they talked on a shallow surface of, ‘What do we do if Oklahoma and Texas leave?’ And they talked about Cincinnati, Houston, BYU. They’re all great programs, but none that obviously bring the value of Oklahoma and Texas and those brand names

there's has not been 1 legitimate media outlet to link memphis to the big 12 through sources ..and numerous from 2016 that said memphis wasnt in the running

im not going to argue who is better from ratings or whatever...it doesnt matter how we justify anything to ourselves it wont make a difference, to the decision makers, our opinions dont matter.. its who are linked from legitimate sources...

the "i know a guy thing" was the same thing memphis did in 2016 till official media sources said otherwise
https://theathletic.com/2734930/2021/07/...ed_article
In the Athletic they said they heard from sources that Houston and SMU will not be considered because the other Texas schools don’t want them in. They mentioned Cincy and UCF as the most likely AAC schools.

“While reuniting half of the Southwest Conference would be fun, Baylor, TCU and Texas Tech would rather not add Houston or SMU and therefore raise the profile and competition with two more Texas schools. UH, in particular, has a large student body and fits the Big 12 mold. UH and SMU are more likely last resort options, but it’s possible if they’re needed for survival.”

“UCF also is strongly positioned at the right time. The Knights bring fans, eyeballs and money (when they’re winning), and there have been pushes to join the Big 12 in the past. Sources noted that while USF is often paired with the Knights in these conversations, the reality is those schools aren’t on the same level for this venture. USF does not have the same size fan base nor the success on the field to move the needle as UCF could. “Market size” doesn’t matter if you’re not prevalent in that market.”

“Cincinnati, one of the biggest losers from the last round of realignment, has positioned itself as well as possible, with a successful athletic department and larger investment in athletics, including a Nippert Stadium renovation. UC sources told The Athletic’s Justin Williams that UC will be proactive and assertive. Again, that’s vague because it has to be. Maybe that landing spot is the Big 12. Maybe the ACC opens up. Or maybe the AAC remains the best spot.”

“Memphis athletics have come a long way, but the Tigers don’t move the Big 12 needle much either, even with men’s hoops coach Penny Hardaway, and the school’s academic standing is a tougher sell to Big 12 presidents. Memphis would likely be considered only if the Big 12 went, well, big, to 12 or more teams.”
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