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Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
… just a month after the NCAA allows student athletes to profit off their NIL? Obviously, a higher profile league will allow for more National TV games and more exposure… and national endorsements. The SEC is now exclusively ESPN and will be prime time all the time where the Big 12 was struggling for exposure on FOX; and this has to have figured into their decision to leave. Heck, Nick Saban was just touting his QB’s 7 figure endorsement deals; so, the future of college recruiting appears to have quickly been reduced to a competition for paychecks within a month. I do not see how we compete within this orbit, if we are a “left behind” in the AAC.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
Yep, they are smart for leaving. But it’s still bad for the future of the sport.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
That's my theory as well. Also correlates with the one time transfer rule allowing star G5 players to transfer up for a better money making opportunity.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
Yep. You can't compare an SEC-visible endorsement deal to a Big XII deal unless your hawking cattle fences or something.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 08:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.

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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
I think the NCAA losing their case with the Supremes plays a role too. The $EC intends to be the arbiter of College football.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
I wonder if colleges will really be involved on the sports side within the next 10-20 years? We are moving quickly to professionalism & it’s silly to believe these kids are going to be bound by ACT scores, GPA & academic progress. Ultimately, you have to believe most schools will not be able to compete & will be pressured to return to their academic missions with sports playing a smaller role. For the schools that can compete, will they just pay the universities for branding & facilities, but otherwise operate autonomously?
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I wonder if colleges will really be involved on the sports side within the next 10-20 years? We are moving quickly to professionalism & it’s silly to believe these kids are going to be bound by ACT scores, GPA & academic progress. Ultimately, you have to believe most schools will not be able to compete & will be pressured to return to their academic missions with sports playing a smaller role. For the schools that can compete, will they just pay the universities for branding & facilities, but otherwise operate autonomously?

03-lmfao 10 or 20 years?
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I wonder if colleges will really be involved on the sports side within the next 10-20 years? We are moving quickly to professionalism & it’s silly to believe these kids are going to be bound by ACT scores, GPA & academic progress. Ultimately, you have to believe most schools will not be able to compete & will be pressured to return to their academic missions with sports playing a smaller role. For the schools that can compete, will they just pay the universities for branding & facilities, but otherwise operate autonomously?

i agree with you, probably NCAA involvement only at a level currently consistent with division 2 / 3.. Universities will be able to opt in and out for different sports, so they can impose some levels of regulations on compensation, academics, etc. Athletes that can demand a fee for their NIL above university allowance would be free to transfer to one of the semi-pro conferences.

i expect we will end up with 75 or so "division 1" semi-pro teams, and the rest similar to current division 2-3.. although you can see the current high $$programs leaving the NCAA altogether and losing university sponsorship
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 10:32 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 10:03 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I wonder if colleges will really be involved on the sports side within the next 10-20 years? We are moving quickly to professionalism & it’s silly to believe these kids are going to be bound by ACT scores, GPA & academic progress. Ultimately, you have to believe most schools will not be able to compete & will be pressured to return to their academic missions with sports playing a smaller role. For the schools that can compete, will they just pay the universities for branding & facilities, but otherwise operate autonomously?

i agree with you, probably NCAA involvement only at a level currently consistent with division 2 / 3.. Universities will be able to opt in and out for different sports, so they can impose some levels of regulations on compensation, academics, etc. Athletes that can demand a fee for their NIL above university allowance would be free to transfer to one of the semi-pro conferences.

i expect we will end up with 75 or so "division 1" semi-pro teams, and the rest similar to current division 2-3.. although you can see the current high $$programs leaving the NCAA altogether and losing university sponsorship
I don't know. NIL applies to all divisions. There will be some fundamental changes required.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 08:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.

Yeah, because realignment and the pursuit of the almighty dollar only started when the players started getting a tiny cut on the side.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 11:19 AM)Psicosis Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.

Yeah, because realignment and the pursuit of the almighty dollar only started when the players started getting a tiny cut on the side.

Having all players receive the same stipend across the board is waaaaaay different than what's going on with the NIL.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 11:19 AM)Psicosis Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.

Yeah, because realignment and the pursuit of the almighty dollar only started when the players started getting a tiny cut on the side.

tiny cut 03-lmfao you are right its been a slow death

it started with letting anyone with a pulse into college.

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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 11:26 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 11:19 AM)Psicosis Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.

Yeah, because realignment and the pursuit of the almighty dollar only started when the players started getting a tiny cut on the side.

Having all players receive the same stipend across the board is waaaaaay different than what's going on with the NIL.

We will now get to see buyouts of NIL agreements from higher bidders. Can these kids have an agent for their NIL agreements?
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 11:34 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 11:26 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 11:19 AM)Psicosis Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 08:50 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The very same people that were hollering the poor kids just need to get paid are crying at the results.

Hilarious

RIP college football.

Yeah, because realignment and the pursuit of the almighty dollar only started when the players started getting a tiny cut on the side.

Having all players receive the same stipend across the board is waaaaaay different than what's going on with the NIL.

We will now get to see buyouts of NIL agreements from higher bidders. Can these kids have an agent for their NIL agreements?

Collegiate amateur sports are dead. There will be fewer scholarships, fewer sports to participate and more kids being denied the opportunity to go to college simply because they cannot afford it.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
Playoff expansion talk will slow to a crawl.
Big 12 commish realizing that SEC commish, TX, and OU were dealing behind his back as they were on a committee together discussing expanding the playoffs.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 02:26 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Playoff expansion talk will slow to a crawl.
Big 12 commish realizing that SEC commish, TX, and OU were dealing behind his back as they were on a committee together discussing expanding the playoffs.

Interesting
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 02:26 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Playoff expansion talk will slow to a crawl.
Big 12 commish realizing that SEC commish, TX, and OU were dealing behind his back as they were on a committee together discussing expanding the playoffs.

Lol...

Seems like the Big12 commissioner, Texas and OU would be even more motivated to expand the playoff now.

Texas and OU because they want to be included for being 3rd in the SEC and the Big12 just wants to be included at all.
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RE: Is it coincidental Texas & OU leave the B12 for the SEC…
(07-28-2021 02:26 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Playoff expansion talk will slow to a crawl.
Big 12 commish realizing that SEC commish, TX, and OU were dealing behind his back as they were on a committee together discussing expanding the playoffs.

I doubt it. Bowlsby is a spinless moron. Nobody in the Big 12 answers him. I don't think anyone pays any attention to him.
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