Just to show you what it could look like.

My assumptions were 8 game schedules (some teams already scheduled 4 non conference games), East/West divisions (Alabama, Auburn in East, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas in West), no permanent crossovers. Crossovers for 2025 are Alabama/Oklahoma, Florida/Texas, Georgia/LSU, Auburn/Texas A&M, Tennessee/Mississippi, Kentucky/Missouri, South Carolina/Arkansas, Vanderbilt/Mississippi State.

Texas A&M and Texas will play rivalry week as well LSU and Arkansas. Oklahoma will play Oklahoma State (added as a non conference game). Missouri is stuck open on rivalry week. They are scheduled to play Kansas in 2025, maybe they could move that game to rivalry week that season and in the future?

All division game home and away patterns were maintained with the exception of the teams moving divisions (although I was able to arrange for Alabama to be at Georgia and at home for Florida, the opposite of their most recent matchups).

If Mizzou can schedule Kansas the last week of the season, that might be even better than the FCS cupcakes that SEC teams like to play late in the season.

If the SEC goes with an 8 game conference schedule, they could scrap the divisions and go with a schedule that has 3 full rivals they play every year, 8 semi-rivals they play 50% of the time, or once every 2 years, and 4 quarter-rivals they play 25% of the time, or once every 4 years.

For example Oklahoma could have as their rivals:

3 Full rivals: Tex, Arky, Mizzou
8 Semi-rivals: TAMU, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, Bama, Tenn, Vandy, KY
4 Quarter-rivals: FL, Ga, Aub, SCAR

(07-27-2021 04:35 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Just to show you what it could look like.

My assumptions were 8 game schedules (some teams already scheduled 4 non conference games), East/West divisions (Alabama, Auburn in East, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas in West), no permanent crossovers. Crossovers for 2025 are Alabama/Oklahoma, Florida/Texas, Georgia/LSU, Auburn/Texas A&M, Tennessee/Mississippi, Kentucky/Missouri, South Carolina/Arkansas, Vanderbilt/Mississippi State.

Texas A&M and Texas will play rivalry week as well LSU and Arkansas. Oklahoma will play Oklahoma State (added as a non conference game). Missouri is stuck open on rivalry week. They are scheduled to play Kansas in 2025, maybe they could move that game to rivalry week that season and in the future?

All division game home and away patterns were maintained with the exception of the teams moving divisions (although I was able to arrange for Alabama to be at Georgia and at home for Florida, the opposite of their most recent matchups).

I'm hearing there is a need to do one for 2022.

(07-27-2021 04:35 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Just to show you what it could look like.

My assumptions were 8 game schedules (some teams already scheduled 4 non conference games), East/West divisions (Alabama, Auburn in East, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas in West), no permanent crossovers. Crossovers for 2025 are Alabama/Oklahoma, Florida/Texas, Georgia/LSU, Auburn/Texas A&M, Tennessee/Mississippi, Kentucky/Missouri, South Carolina/Arkansas, Vanderbilt/Mississippi State.

Texas A&M and Texas will play rivalry week as well LSU and Arkansas. Oklahoma will play Oklahoma State (added as a non conference game). Missouri is stuck open on rivalry week. They are scheduled to play Kansas in 2025, maybe they could move that game to rivalry week that season and in the future?

All division game home and away patterns were maintained with the exception of the teams moving divisions (although I was able to arrange for Alabama to be at Georgia and at home for Florida, the opposite of their most recent matchups).

As usual, northerners know nothing about the SEC.

(07-28-2021 09:02 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 04:35 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Just to show you what it could look like.

My assumptions were 8 game schedules (some teams already scheduled 4 non conference games), East/West divisions (Alabama, Auburn in East, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas in West), no permanent crossovers. Crossovers for 2025 are Alabama/Oklahoma, Florida/Texas, Georgia/LSU, Auburn/Texas A&M, Tennessee/Mississippi, Kentucky/Missouri, South Carolina/Arkansas, Vanderbilt/Mississippi State.

Texas A&M and Texas will play rivalry week as well LSU and Arkansas. Oklahoma will play Oklahoma State (added as a non conference game). Missouri is stuck open on rivalry week. They are scheduled to play Kansas in 2025, maybe they could move that game to rivalry week that season and in the future?

All division game home and away patterns were maintained with the exception of the teams moving divisions (although I was able to arrange for Alabama to be at Georgia and at home for Florida, the opposite of their most recent matchups).

As usual, northerners know nothing about the SEC.

Care to elaborate? Or think you can do better?

First Proposed 2026 Schedule with the 2025 matchups reversed. Features Alabama's first trip to Oklahoma.

This was not done intentional but Alabama and LSU both have one common bye in both 2025 and 2026 in my proposed schedules and still have at least one non conference game unscheduled each. Would they have the guts to schedule each other those days? Unfortunately in Alabama's case they are both years the week before they play Oklahoma.

If it were up to me, I'd probably set up Alabama-Texas in the 2027-2028 crossovers with Oklahoma getting either Georgia or Florida.

(07-28-2021 09:22 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(07-28-2021 09:02 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 04:35 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Just to show you what it could look like.

My assumptions were 8 game schedules (some teams already scheduled 4 non conference games), East/West divisions (Alabama, Auburn in East, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas in West), no permanent crossovers. Crossovers for 2025 are Alabama/Oklahoma, Florida/Texas, Georgia/LSU, Auburn/Texas A&M, Tennessee/Mississippi, Kentucky/Missouri, South Carolina/Arkansas, Vanderbilt/Mississippi State.

Texas A&M and Texas will play rivalry week as well LSU and Arkansas. Oklahoma will play Oklahoma State (added as a non conference game). Missouri is stuck open on rivalry week. They are scheduled to play Kansas in 2025, maybe they could move that game to rivalry week that season and in the future?

All division game home and away patterns were maintained with the exception of the teams moving divisions (although I was able to arrange for Alabama to be at Georgia and at home for Florida, the opposite of their most recent matchups).

As usual, northerners know nothing about the SEC.

Care to elaborate? Or think you can do better?

Sure, I will elaborate, now that I finally have some time. For one thing, Florida and Tennessee prefer playing earlier in the season, not later. Also, Georgia and Tennessee just moved their rivalry to later in. the year. Georgia plays Tennessee before playing Georgia Tech
and Tennessee will play Georgia right before playing Vandy. Second, I don't believe Texas A&M vs Texas is coming back to Thanksgiving, even as much as you would like it to. Texas will get to protect one game: Oklahoma. That's it. Texas A&M will protect the LSU game. I honestly see Texas A&M playing Texas around Halloween. You may not like that, but that's the way I see it. If you want to try to give everyone a traditional rivalry, substitute Arkansas for Texas A& in Texas' rivalry slot. That is a huge rivalry for Arkansas, and they won't cry too much about losing Mizzou, if they even cry at all. Mizzou can then play Kansas, a traditional rival on Thanksgiving weekend OOC, just like Georgia does with Georgia Tech. BTW Schmolik, why can't Penn State play Pittsburgh on Thanksgiving weekend non-conference?? Georgia plays Georgia Tech non conference, Florida plays Florida State non-conference, Kentucky plays Louisville non-conference, and South Carolina plays Clemson non-conference---and all of these games are played on Thanksgiving weekend!!! So, what is Penn State's excuse???

(07-31-2021 02:25 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Mizzou can then play Kansas, a traditional rival on Thanksgiving weekend OOC, just like Georgia does with Georgia Tech. BTW Schmolik, why can't Penn State play Pittsburgh on Thanksgiving weekend non-conference?? Georgia plays Georgia Tech non conference, Florida plays Florida State non-conference, Kentucky plays Louisville non-conference, and South Carolina plays Clemson non-conference---and all of these games are played on Thanksgiving weekend!!! So, what is Penn State's excuse???

If I had my way, PSU would play Pittsburgh every year on Thanksgiving weekend. Why don't they? You'd have to ask the schools. If I had to guess, I would think Penn State feels they have nothing to gain and everything to lose playing Pittsburgh and they want to feel they are the #1 school in the state and as long as they don't play most people will feel Penn State is the #1 school in PA. Texas probably thought the same thing after A&M left for the SEC so they canceled the A&M series (and also spite for leaving).

As for the Missouri-Kansas game, that was the date the game is currently scheduled for on FBSchedules.com. If I had my way, absolutely it gets moved to Thanksgiving weekend.

(07-28-2021 09:02 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 04:35 PM)schmolik Wrote:  ... Texas A&M and Texas will play rivalry week as well LSU and Arkansas. Oklahoma will play Oklahoma State (added as a non conference game). Missouri is stuck open on rivalry week. They are scheduled to play Kansas in 2025, maybe they could move that game to rivalry week that season and in the future? ...

As usual, northerners know nothing about the SEC.

Though to be fair, an Arkansas / LSU rivalry week game would be a rivalry on one side of the game, similar to Tennessee / Vanderbilt, which they force Tennessee to play in rivalry week. (Though to be fair, the SEC is a conference with perhaps more give and take than Texas is used to ... while Tennessee fans may grumble about having Vandy in rivalry week, if that's part of the trade-off for protecting the Third Saturday in October, they'll grudgingly accept it).

The thing that is odd about that is I reckon Texas A&M would prefer LSU as their rivalry week game, and try to get Arkansas's support for that by supporting Arkansas having their rivalry week game against Texas. Indeed, that is similar to the Tennessee deal ... if they expect the RRR to be protected, they may have to accept a rivalry week game that their opponent cares more about than they do.

As far as Mizzou / Kansas as an OOC rivalry week game, I don't see how anybody would complain about not being able to play Mizzou in rivalry week.

From the "CBS targeting another conference" thread...
https://csnbbs.com/thread-935707-post-17...id17861841

"...Deitsch also reported that ESPN will break from the CBS mold of putting the best SEC game in the 3:30 p.m. ET slot when it takes over the league’s media rights in 2024. ESPN has committed to putting an SEC game on ABC in the same window, but it will look to flex between ABC and ESPN channels as well as late-afternoon and primetime slots for the highest-profile SEC games...."

Traditionally CBS only airs one prime time SEC game a year. I'm guessing ABC will air more. The question is which games/schools would air at 3:30pm and which in prime time? I would guess the school(s) would have a lot of input as well. I think one school that would most likely stays at 3:30pm is Florida-Georgia. Alabama-Auburn almost always airs at 3:30pm but did air in prime time in 2014. Could ABC talk the schools into prime time? Texas-Oklahoma has mostly been noon no matter what the network has been. I hear LSU loves prime time games. Alabama-LSU has been played in prime time most years when CBS had the game (and this year it was in prime time because it aired on ESPN) so as long as both teams are prime time worthy I see no reason why they wouldn't play in prime time.

These were games involving the A list SEC teams in 2025. What time would these games be played? Assume the SEC would have first choice of time slot and the other conference games aren't a factor.

Sept. 13: LSU at Georgia*
Sept. 20: Texas at LSU, Oklahoma at Texas A&M
Sept. 27: Alabama at Georgia
Oct. 4: Auburn at Florida
Oct. 11: Oklahoma vs. Texas at Dallas
Oct. 18: Texas at Florida*
Oct. 25: Florida vs. Georgia at Jacksonville
Nov. 1: Oklahoma at Alabama*
Nov. 8: Texas A&M at LSU, Georgia at Auburn
Nov. 15: Florida at Alabama, LSU at Oklahoma
Nov. 22: Tennessee at Florida
Nov. 29: Alabama at Auburn, Texas A&M at Texas (could it be played on Thanksgiving or Black Friday?)

Alabama and Auburn are in the Eastern Division in my new divisions.

I anticipate the ABC weekly schedule will look something like this:

12:00 EST ACC GOTW
03:30 EST SEC #2
07:30 EST SEC GOTW

ESPN:

12:00 EST Big 12 GOTW
03:30 EST ACC #2
07:30 EST SEC #3

ESPN2:

12:00 EST AAC GOTW
03:30 EST Big 10 #4
07:30 EST ACC #3 / Big 12 #2

(11-18-2021 07:20 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I anticipate the ABC weekly schedule will look something like this:

12:00 EST ACC GOTW
03:30 EST SEC #2
07:30 EST SEC GOTW

ESPN:

12:00 EST Big 12 GOTW
03:30 EST ACC #2
07:30 EST SEC #3

ESPN2:

12:00 EST AAC GOTW
03:30 EST Big 10 #4
07:30 EST ACC #3 / Big 12 #2

Unless the ACC GOTW involves a ranked ACC team hosting a ranked Notre Dame, in which case that game gets one of the 7:30 slots (ABC or ESPN, depending on what the SEC has cooking).

(11-18-2021 07:20 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I anticipate the ABC weekly schedule will look something like this:

12:00 EST ACC GOTW
03:30 EST SEC #2
07:30 EST SEC GOTW

I still think there is some attachment or "tradition" for at least some of the SEC schools to the 3:30pm slot. Playing the CBS Game of the Week for schools like Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, etc. goes back a couple of decades. Sure there is something special about playing in prime time but if you play at 3:30 (2:30 CT) it means you're on CBS and you're the main attraction. Do Alabama and Georgia fans think 7pm/6pm CT games are insults because it means they're on ESPN? Obviously there will be an adjustment period there.

If the SEC truly wanted a prime time game on ABC every Saturday night, what was stopping them other than ABC wanting to keep their options open for other conferences? I would think that even if the SEC wanted the prime time slot every week, ABC would have given it to them (they'd still have noon and 3:30pm for big Big Ten games or Oklahoma and Texas games, at the time they signed the SEC Oklahoma and Texas were still in the Big 12, and OU-UT almost always play at noon anyway).

CBS doesn't like to air games in prime time that often (other than last year they don't even air the SEC Championship in prime time, why wouldn't they?). FOX has now found a niche at noon. But ABC (and ESPN) loves prime time.

On the other hand, some schools and conferences can't be bought. In 2006, Michigan at Ohio State played each other at 3:30pm. The game was watched by 21.8 million people on ABC, that's unheard of these days. Still, you couldn't pay Michigan or Ohio State these days to play each other at 3:30pm or in prime time. A lot of OSU fans complained about it.
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2011/05/bi..._to_a.html

And very rarely do you see Big Ten schools play night games late in the season. Indiana at Michigan played the first week this year. You don't think ABC wouldn't have loved Michigan State-Ohio State to be its prime time game this week? Why do you think it's not?

Oklahoma-Texas aired at noon (11am CT) all but two times since 2010. A few of them aired on FOX but some also aired on ABC. Obviously once they move to the SEC they will be on ABC (or ESPN if Texas keeps losing to Kansas like schools) but I have a feeling they will be airing at the "usual" time most years and I'll be shocked if they ever air as the SNF game.

So I don't think it's automatic that every "big" game will automatically go into prime time. Sure, more will be than under the SEC era. But I can see at least a few wanting to "stay" at 3:30pm. Here's a question. CBS usually "schedules" the prime time week before the season begins. In most years, they choose Alabama-LSU. When Notre Dame came to Georgia, they chose that game. This year with Texas A&M coming off a #5 CFP ranking and hosting Alabama, they chose Alabama-Texas A&M (great choice considering A&M beat Alabama and LSU had a poor year). How come CBS NEVER chooses Alabama-Auburn as its prime time game? It often draws huge numbers. Maybe Alabama and Auburn don't want to play each other in prime time in general.

And prime time doesn't always mean the best ratings. I believe LSU-Alabama the one year it aired on CBS at 3:30pm had more viewers than most years it aired in prime time (2019, 16.64M viewers!!!) Of course Joe Burrow had a lot to do with that. Michigan-Ohio State have no problem drawing viewers at noon ET. The most watched game this season was a Big Nooner. If a game is big, viewers will find it regardless of time slot.