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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
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(09-29-2021 03:50 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This Expansion Merry Go Round is going to keep going for a few years. The dust will not settle until the TV contracts for the PAC and Big 12 are done in 2024/25 respectively.

As far as the MWC AFA and CSU are as good as gone and Boise is hoping for a Big12 invite in a few years or less so they will say no to AAC...at least for now. I do not think the AAC will go after SDSU unless Boise says yes, so they are "safe" for now. Who will the MWC go after IF they decide to expand and compensate for the loss of 2 teams? Doubt and AAC team will jump. UTEP and NMSU are very last resorts and they are not anywhere near that point yet. So its 2 of the following most likely UNT/UTSA/TEX ST and or Montana/NDSU/SDSU. I honestly think Montana and NDSU would be better options because they are the "best" thing in the state where as the Texas schools that are options are so far down the list no one in Texas really gives a hoot about them besides the students and Alums and switching from one G5 to another is not going to all of the sudden make them more attractive media/money wise, but Montana and NDSU would be big money makers as far as G5 goes.

LOL. These programs bring nothing to an FBS conference other than a warm body. Zero recruiting, zero TV market, more travel to a place with no benefit in traveling to. Factor in that Montucky wouldn't be allowed to join without their inbred brother MSU and you get a double whammy for the state of Montana.

It should be TX or bust for the MWC in their backfilling plans.


I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 12:58 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 03:50 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This Expansion Merry Go Round is going to keep going for a few years. The dust will not settle until the TV contracts for the PAC and Big 12 are done in 2024/25 respectively.

As far as the MWC AFA and CSU are as good as gone and Boise is hoping for a Big12 invite in a few years or less so they will say no to AAC...at least for now. I do not think the AAC will go after SDSU unless Boise says yes, so they are "safe" for now. Who will the MWC go after IF they decide to expand and compensate for the loss of 2 teams? Doubt and AAC team will jump. UTEP and NMSU are very last resorts and they are not anywhere near that point yet. So its 2 of the following most likely UNT/UTSA/TEX ST and or Montana/NDSU/SDSU. I honestly think Montana and NDSU would be better options because they are the "best" thing in the state where as the Texas schools that are options are so far down the list no one in Texas really gives a hoot about them besides the students and Alums and switching from one G5 to another is not going to all of the sudden make them more attractive media/money wise, but Montana and NDSU would be big money makers as far as G5 goes.

LOL. These programs bring nothing to an FBS conference other than a warm body. Zero recruiting, zero TV market, more travel to a place with no benefit in traveling to. Factor in that Montucky wouldn't be allowed to join without their inbred brother MSU and you get a double whammy for the state of Montana.

It should be TX or bust for the MWC in their backfilling plans.


I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

I didn't say they would specifically just for Women's Basketball, but if CUSA is decimated enough geographically and UTEP is still in the league, travel is probably not going to matter very much for a bunch of Gang of 5 public schools staving off being Independents, which can be devastating to a football program unless you're a private school or military academy.

NDSU with 8 FCS titles in football and a sizable market is going to be an attractive option. SDSU would be a good travel partner with NDSU, and they also have a well-rounded athletics program. As the only FBS schools in their states, I imagine they would get quite a bit of support statewide.

And of course, there is New Mexico State that could serve as a travel partner to UTEP. Lots of options for CUSA.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-29-2021 11:23 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 12:58 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 03:50 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This Expansion Merry Go Round is going to keep going for a few years. The dust will not settle until the TV contracts for the PAC and Big 12 are done in 2024/25 respectively.

As far as the MWC AFA and CSU are as good as gone and Boise is hoping for a Big12 invite in a few years or less so they will say no to AAC...at least for now. I do not think the AAC will go after SDSU unless Boise says yes, so they are "safe" for now. Who will the MWC go after IF they decide to expand and compensate for the loss of 2 teams? Doubt and AAC team will jump. UTEP and NMSU are very last resorts and they are not anywhere near that point yet. So its 2 of the following most likely UNT/UTSA/TEX ST and or Montana/NDSU/SDSU. I honestly think Montana and NDSU would be better options because they are the "best" thing in the state where as the Texas schools that are options are so far down the list no one in Texas really gives a hoot about them besides the students and Alums and switching from one G5 to another is not going to all of the sudden make them more attractive media/money wise, but Montana and NDSU would be big money makers as far as G5 goes.

LOL. These programs bring nothing to an FBS conference other than a warm body. Zero recruiting, zero TV market, more travel to a place with no benefit in traveling to. Factor in that Montucky wouldn't be allowed to join without their inbred brother MSU and you get a double whammy for the state of Montana.

It should be TX or bust for the MWC in their backfilling plans.


I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

I didn't say they would specifically just for Women's Basketball, but if CUSA is decimated enough geographically and UTEP is still in the league, travel is probably not going to matter very much for a bunch of Gang of 5 public schools staving off being Independents, which can be devastating to a football program unless you're a private school or military academy.

NDSU with 8 FCS titles in football and a sizable market is going to be an attractive option. SDSU would be a good travel partner with NDSU, and they also have a well-rounded athletics program. As the only FBS schools in their states, I imagine they would get quite a bit of support statewide.

And of course, there is New Mexico State that could serve as a travel partner to UTEP. Lots of options for CUSA.

Of course you did. And if CUSA or MWC ever get to the point of needing FCS move-ups to remain viable, they'll look at a wide array of metrics to pick who fits the best. NDSU won't be checking the box on many of those metrics. No one outside of the Summit wants to send their Oly programs to Fargo. And no one in the CUSA or MWC cares that NDSU has 8 FCS titles.

Agree about NMSU to the CUSA...that is of course if they don't want to swoop up on one of the WAC/ASun programs first. No idea who would be atop the move-up list but I would guess there are a few with more long term upside than whatever NMSU brings to the table.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 12:58 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 03:50 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This Expansion Merry Go Round is going to keep going for a few years. The dust will not settle until the TV contracts for the PAC and Big 12 are done in 2024/25 respectively.

As far as the MWC AFA and CSU are as good as gone and Boise is hoping for a Big12 invite in a few years or less so they will say no to AAC...at least for now. I do not think the AAC will go after SDSU unless Boise says yes, so they are "safe" for now. Who will the MWC go after IF they decide to expand and compensate for the loss of 2 teams? Doubt and AAC team will jump. UTEP and NMSU are very last resorts and they are not anywhere near that point yet. So its 2 of the following most likely UNT/UTSA/TEX ST and or Montana/NDSU/SDSU. I honestly think Montana and NDSU would be better options because they are the "best" thing in the state where as the Texas schools that are options are so far down the list no one in Texas really gives a hoot about them besides the students and Alums and switching from one G5 to another is not going to all of the sudden make them more attractive media/money wise, but Montana and NDSU would be big money makers as far as G5 goes.

LOL. These programs bring nothing to an FBS conference other than a warm body. Zero recruiting, zero TV market, more travel to a place with no benefit in traveling to. Factor in that Montucky wouldn't be allowed to join without their inbred brother MSU and you get a double whammy for the state of Montana.

It should be TX or bust for the MWC in their backfilling plans.


I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 12:58 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  LOL. These programs bring nothing to an FBS conference other than a warm body. Zero recruiting, zero TV market, more travel to a place with no benefit in traveling to. Factor in that Montucky wouldn't be allowed to join without their inbred brother MSU and you get a double whammy for the state of Montana.

It should be TX or bust for the MWC in their backfilling plans.


I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

you Aggies are delusional if you think C-USA or ANYONE for that matter wants you01-wingedeagle There are far better FCS candidates that will get chosen over you to go to one of the G-5 Conferences. Here is the truth about NMSU and why no other conference will take it.

1. Football team is downright PATHETIC
2. School is in small state (population wise) and is one of the poorest states so school is always broke (much like the La. State schools from the Southland)
3. You would be an outlier in most conferences ( except MWC...and it is very clear they want nothing to do with you) and that only increase travel cost for everyone else.
4. Money wise, you would only be another mouth to feed and a drain on everyone else as you would be the last place team in regards to financial contribution and therefore you are the weakest link...Goodbye! 03-lmfao
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 12:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

you Aggies are delusional if you think C-USA or ANYONE for that matter wants you01-wingedeagle There are far better FCS candidates that will get chosen over you to go to one of the G-5 Conferences. Here is the truth about NMSU and why no other conference will take it.

1. Football team is downright PATHETIC
2. School is in small state (population wise) and is one of the poorest states so school is always broke (much like the La. State schools from the Southland)
3. You would be an outlier in most conferences ( except MWC...and it is very clear they want nothing to do with you) and that only increase travel cost for everyone else.
4. Money wise, you would only be another mouth to feed and a drain on everyone else as you would be the last place team in regards to financial contribution and therefore you are the weakest link...Goodbye! 03-lmfao
4.

Please point out in this thread or any other one where us Aggies state that we are a candidate for another conference or that we are gonna get picked up by another conference? In fact, we Aggies point out all of the things you numbered in your post as reasons why it would be almost impossible to get into the MWC or CUSA. The OP was not started by an Aggie. Even all the threads you quoted above do not have any Aggie posts that are delusional.

But here are some cold hard facts for you. No one on this board or the Aggie board had ever even heard of Tarleton before you joined the WAC. And our peers over at UTEP and UNM laugh at us for being in a conference with schools like you. Also, no one is starting threads about what could happen if Tarleton went to an FBS conference. Remember that Junior Aggie. If you want to toss rocks, I can toss some myself...
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(07-27-2021 03:55 PM)WAChsenburggemeinde Wrote:  If the SEC's expansion w/ Oklahoma and Texas leads to trickle down expansion with an MWC team like Boise State or San Diego State going to the Big XII, and then the MWC backfills with NMSU, should the WAC do anything?

There'd be 6 Western schools and 6 Texas schools, so maybe stop interviewing additional Texas schools and stand pat at 12? Or keep going after an extra Texas school and pursue a Western school like NAU or Idaho to balance it out?


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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 03:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:55 PM)WAChsenburggemeinde Wrote:  If the SEC's expansion w/ Oklahoma and Texas leads to trickle down expansion with an MWC team like Boise State or San Diego State going to the Big XII, and then the MWC backfills with NMSU, should the WAC do anything?

There'd be 6 Western schools and 6 Texas schools, so maybe stop interviewing additional Texas schools and stand pat at 12? Or keep going after an extra Texas school and pursue a Western school like NAU or Idaho to balance it out?


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Open up a ski resort in Hell and warn the FAA about flying pigs 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

At least twice you have said "Aggies are delusional". Is WAChsenburggemeinde an NMSU Aggie? He's not. You are saying that Aggie fans are delusional and implying that Aggie fans are the ones driving these conversations about NMSU leaving for the MWC or other conferences. The Aggie fans have all been rational and realistic about everything. You are the one acting irrational and you are making false accusations.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 03:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:55 PM)WAChsenburggemeinde Wrote:  If the SEC's expansion w/ Oklahoma and Texas leads to trickle down expansion with an MWC team like Boise State or San Diego State going to the Big XII, and then the MWC backfills with NMSU, should the WAC do anything?

There'd be 6 Western schools and 6 Texas schools, so maybe stop interviewing additional Texas schools and stand pat at 12? Or keep going after an extra Texas school and pursue a Western school like NAU or Idaho to balance it out?


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Open up a ski resort in Hell and warn the FAA about flying pigs 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Just curious, why did you feel the need to put 4EVER at the end of your name? It’s just feels like the most generic thing ever. And what’s a spolovilo? Is it a kind of ravioli?
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 09:12 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 03:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:55 PM)WAChsenburggemeinde Wrote:  If the SEC's expansion w/ Oklahoma and Texas leads to trickle down expansion with an MWC team like Boise State or San Diego State going to the Big XII, and then the MWC backfills with NMSU, should the WAC do anything?

There'd be 6 Western schools and 6 Texas schools, so maybe stop interviewing additional Texas schools and stand pat at 12? Or keep going after an extra Texas school and pursue a Western school like NAU or Idaho to balance it out?


Post: #1Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?

Open up a ski resort in Hell and warn the FAA about flying pigs 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Just curious, why did you feel the need to put 4EVER at the end of your name? It’s just feels like the most generic thing ever. And what’s a spolovilo? Is it a kind of ravioli?

Online translator says:

https://glosbe.com/hr/en/spolovilo
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 12:58 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  LOL. These programs bring nothing to an FBS conference other than a warm body. Zero recruiting, zero TV market, more travel to a place with no benefit in traveling to. Factor in that Montucky wouldn't be allowed to join without their inbred brother MSU and you get a double whammy for the state of Montana.

It should be TX or bust for the MWC in their backfilling plans.


I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

Or most any rational person for that matter.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 12:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

you Aggies are delusional if you think C-USA or ANYONE for that matter wants you01-wingedeagle There are far better FCS candidates that will get chosen over you to go to one of the G-5 Conferences. Here is the truth about NMSU and why no other conference will take it.

1. Football team is downright PATHETIC
2. School is in small state (population wise) and is one of the poorest states so school is always broke (much like the La. State schools from the Southland)
3. You would be an outlier in most conferences ( except MWC...and it is very clear they want nothing to do with you) and that only increase travel cost for everyone else.
4. Money wise, you would only be another mouth to feed and a drain on everyone else as you would be the last place team in regards to financial contribution and therefore you are the weakest link...Goodbye! 03-lmfao
4.

Why are you dumping on NMSU? I for one am happy with all the schools in the WAC especially the football schools. But, overall its a conference with a lot of upside. I for one do not see WAC schools leaving but if someone finds a better situation for their school I'm ok with it.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 11:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 12:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

you Aggies are delusional if you think C-USA or ANYONE for that matter wants you01-wingedeagle There are far better FCS candidates that will get chosen over you to go to one of the G-5 Conferences. Here is the truth about NMSU and why no other conference will take it.

1. Football team is downright PATHETIC
2. School is in small state (population wise) and is one of the poorest states so school is always broke (much like the La. State schools from the Southland)
3. You would be an outlier in most conferences ( except MWC...and it is very clear they want nothing to do with you) and that only increase travel cost for everyone else.
4. Money wise, you would only be another mouth to feed and a drain on everyone else as you would be the last place team in regards to financial contribution and therefore you are the weakest link...Goodbye! 03-lmfao
4.

Why are you dumping on NMSU? I for one am happy with all the schools in the WAC especially the football schools. But, overall its a conference with a lot of upside. I for one do not see WAC schools leaving but if someone finds a better situation for their school I'm ok with it.

It's my understanding that the WAC is conducting or will be conducting a conference-wide feasibility study to move several football members to FBS. I'm skeptical because it would be a huge feat. The Big Sky couldn't pull it off, but if the WAC did, you gotta believe UTEP would likely join.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 12:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

you Aggies are delusional if you think C-USA or ANYONE for that matter wants you01-wingedeagle There are far better FCS candidates that will get chosen over you to go to one of the G-5 Conferences. Here is the truth about NMSU and why no other conference will take it.

1. Football team is downright PATHETIC
2. School is in small state (population wise) and is one of the poorest states so school is always broke (much like the La. State schools from the Southland)
3. You would be an outlier in most conferences ( except MWC...and it is very clear they want nothing to do with you) and that only increase travel cost for everyone else.
4. Money wise, you would only be another mouth to feed and a drain on everyone else as you would be the last place team in regards to financial contribution and therefore you are the weakest link...Goodbye! 03-lmfao
4.
You gotta be kidding. Almost any midmajor conference would want New Mexico St. for their basketball and also their baseball, When the SBC voted to separate from NMst for football, most of the fans on the boards wanted to extend an all sports invitation to them.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 09:16 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 09:12 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 03:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:55 PM)WAChsenburggemeinde Wrote:  If the SEC's expansion w/ Oklahoma and Texas leads to trickle down expansion with an MWC team like Boise State or San Diego State going to the Big XII, and then the MWC backfills with NMSU, should the WAC do anything?

There'd be 6 Western schools and 6 Texas schools, so maybe stop interviewing additional Texas schools and stand pat at 12? Or keep going after an extra Texas school and pursue a Western school like NAU or Idaho to balance it out?


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Open up a ski resort in Hell and warn the FAA about flying pigs 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Just curious, why did you feel the need to put 4EVER at the end of your name? It’s just feels like the most generic thing ever. And what’s a spolovilo? Is it a kind of ravioli?

Online translator says:

https://glosbe.com/hr/en/spolovilo

So Balls4EVER or testicles4EVER. Nice. I do agree. Balls should be forever.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(09-30-2021 12:06 PM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  
(09-30-2021 10:24 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 04:33 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:53 PM)SDHornet Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 01:19 PM)All4One Wrote:  I believe that Conference USA could benefit from adding North Dakota State and South Dakota State. Women's basketball could legitimately become a 2-3-bid league with Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Rice, and South Dakota State. Football would be elevated by bringing in both NDSU and SDSU as they would both bring a competitive edge.

Fargo has a metro population of over 200,000 and eclipses Hattiesburg, MS.

I'm not buying a bunch of southern/southeastern based programs wanting to travel to the great plains for a WBB bid. They'd grab some WAC programs long before considering programs in the Dakota's.

Few WAC programs make any sense for CUSA. The only certainty in realignment is that the Texas schools who just joined the WAC are here for the LONG TERM and are not going anywhere. 03-lmfao Their fans said so on the message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone.

The WAC TX schools are in for the SHORT TERM because you said so on this message board, so we can just go ahead and write that in stone. Others have opinions and they are supposedly hilarious and you have the biggest opinion of all regarding the TX schools, yet you are right and they are wrong? FWIW, your theory about the TX schools makes no sense to me at all.

you Aggies are delusional if you think C-USA or ANYONE for that matter wants you01-wingedeagle There are far better FCS candidates that will get chosen over you to go to one of the G-5 Conferences. Here is the truth about NMSU and why no other conference will take it.

1. Football team is downright PATHETIC
2. School is in small state (population wise) and is one of the poorest states so school is always broke (much like the La. State schools from the Southland)
3. You would be an outlier in most conferences ( except MWC...and it is very clear they want nothing to do with you) and that only increase travel cost for everyone else.
4. Money wise, you would only be another mouth to feed and a drain on everyone else as you would be the last place team in regards to financial contribution and therefore you are the weakest link...Goodbye! 03-lmfao
4.

I know others have already responded to some of this nonsense, but I feel the need, so here we go.

1. NOBODY (NMSU or otherwise) disagrees that we have a bad football program, but we are FBS, and nobody can take that away from us whether you want to or not. So there!

2. We are in a small state with few resources and people. I'm also not sure what the hell this has to do with ANYTHING. It's about brand, and enrollment. We enroll folks from Texas, Arizona, California, Colorado, etc. While we could do a lot better (our enrollment numbers aren't great) the fact that we are in New Mexico is a small consideration. I believe the Brand is more about enrollment than population, but that is just me.

3. Alone, you are probably correct, but if we were to somehow miraculously pair up with UTEP, a lot of that travel worry for Oly Sports goes away. Everyone gets a 2-fer. Again, not saying it would ever happen, but if cooler heads prevail, it's probably the only way for us to make much sense.

4. Money wise, we have been one of the biggest drivers of that in this conference. While it's not football money, we account for most of the basketball credits for this conference.

As a side note, I will say that I actually look forward to this conference to see what we can do TOGETHER (except YOU GCU, I'm watching you...LOL, just kidding). I think the new Texas schools, including Tarleton, can help move this conference forward. I loved playing Utah St., Nevada, Fresno St, UNLV (way back in the day) and even San Jose St when they were a part of the WAC when we first joined. That's who our fans connect with at this time and are the teams that can draw better crowds. That can change. I am really liking our series with GCU, and I am sure a couple of the Texas schools will challenge us as well. All in all, I am good with staying with this group and growing together. That said, IF (and I am not convinced anything will ever come our way) we were offered full membership to a conference with the above mentioned schools in it, we would almost have to take it at this time. Not saying it happens.

GO AGGIES!!!!
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
Non issue at this point.

Still a bit of lower level Division I realignment going on and we shall see what the AAC does

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This decision to stay in the MWC could very well be the one thing to happen that would give NMSU a CUSA invite. I’m guessing the AAC will backfill with a raid of CUSA and Sun Belt. I think the chances of us getting a CUSA invite with UTEP in the conference is possible. 100% possible? No but I think the chance is there depending on who the AAC targets next.

I have mixed feelings if we did get invited. On one hand it’s an FBS football conference. On the other hand it’s going to be massively depleted of its best teams. Im thinking more about basketball here. Idc who we play in football. Actually lower level teams are probably better for us, just being real. But I like the WAC basketball teams more than even the current CUSA teams.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(10-01-2021 09:29 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  This decision to stay in the MWC could very well be the one thing to happen that would give NMSU a CUSA invite. I’m guessing the AAC will backfill with a raid of CUSA and Sun Belt. I think the chances of us getting a CUSA invite with UTEP in the conference is possible. 100% possible? No but I think the chance is there depending on who the AAC targets next.

I have mixed feelings if we did get invited. On one hand it’s an FBS football conference. On the other hand it’s going to be massively depleted of its best teams. Im thinking more about basketball here. Idc who we play in football. Actually lower level teams are probably better for us, just being real. But I like the WAC basketball teams more than even the current CUSA teams.

If the AAC does add anyone it won't be more than four teams and you figure UAB for sure but really only Florida Atlantic, North Texas, UTSA, and Charlotte have received any noticeable attention, which still leaves some good members, but if CUSA dropped to 10 members, they don't really need to add anyone.
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RE: Should the conference do anything if NMSU gets grabbed by the MWC?
(10-01-2021 09:29 AM)YesCubanB Wrote:  This decision to stay in the MWC could very well be the one thing to happen that would give NMSU a CUSA invite. I’m guessing the AAC will backfill with a raid of CUSA and Sun Belt. I think the chances of us getting a CUSA invite with UTEP in the conference is possible. 100% possible? No but I think the chance is there depending on who the AAC targets next.

I have mixed feelings if we did get invited. On one hand it’s an FBS football conference. On the other hand it’s going to be massively depleted of its best teams. Im thinking more about basketball here. Idc who we play in football. Actually lower level teams are probably better for us, just being real. But I like the WAC basketball teams more than even the current CUSA teams.

Good points. I figured NMSU would be cheering for as much realignment chaos as possible, but an isolated UTEP in the CUSA could increase interest in NMSU. AAC will have no choice but the bacfill from CUSA and/or Sun Belt schools. This could shape up very well for NMSU.
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