Will this happen? Nope. Why? Because it makes too much sense and people of influence have no sense, it seems.

The New American Athletic Conference

Drop East Carolina, Temple, Tulane & Tulsa. Add Army, Air Force & Boise State.

East
Cincinnati
Memphis
Navy
Army
South Florida
UCF
Kansas
Kansas State


West
Air Force
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas Tech
Boise State

BIG D
U r KORRECT, it will not happen because it does make sense

(07-26-2021 05:08 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Will this happen? Nope. Why? Because it makes too much sense and people of influence have no sense, it seems.

The New American Athletic Conference

Drop East Carolina, Temple, Tulane & Tulsa. Add Army, Air Force & Boise State.

East
Cincinnati
Memphis
Navy
Army
South Florida
UCF
Kansas
Kansas State


West
Air Force
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas Tech
Boise State

Sorry BigD, but you can’t just simply force some of your conference mates to leave. Doesn’t work that way.

(07-26-2021 05:17 PM)danny1 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 05:08 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Will this happen? Nope. Why? Because it makes too much sense and people of influence have no sense, it seems.

The New American Athletic Conference

Drop East Carolina, Temple, Tulane & Tulsa. Add Army, Air Force & Boise State.

East
Cincinnati
Memphis
Navy
Army
South Florida
UCF
Kansas
Kansas State


West
Air Force
Houston
SMU
Baylor
Oklahoma State
TCU
Texas Tech
Boise State

Sorry BigD, but you can’t just simply force some of your conference mates to leave. Doesn’t work that way.

Perhaps, but it could be done by having the BigXII offer invitations to formulate such a conference. Then again, those folks have less sense than everyone else.

BigD I disagree...only because even without Tx and OU...the Big12 is an autonomous P5 league.
Bringing in some AAC teams might up their tv payout...which is expected to be reduced from anywhere 50-75%.

(07-26-2021 05:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  BigD I disagree...only because even without Tx and OU...the Big12 is an autonomous P5 league.
Bringing in some AAC teams might up their tv payout...which is expected to be reduced from anywhere 50-75%.

Call it the new Big12 then. I’d love this league! Meanwhile guys! I’m at Panama City Beach! The water and weather is perfect! Life goes on. eff the power 5.

Hell, eff the power 5. Eff the SEC. eff the bUTt chuggers. Eff the NCAA. Eff ESPN. Y’all continue the effings. I gotta drink some more margaritas.

(07-26-2021 06:09 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Hell, eff the power 5. Eff the SEC. eff the bUTt chuggers. Eff the NCAA. Eff ESPN. Y’all continue the effings. I gotta drink some more margaritas.

That's the spirit

(07-26-2021 06:09 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Hell, eff the power 5. Eff the SEC. eff the bUTt chuggers. Eff the NCAA. Eff ESPN. Y’all continue the effings. I gotta drink some more margaritas.

LOL!! Yep!

(07-26-2021 06:07 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 05:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  BigD I disagree...only because even without Tx and OU...the Big12 is an autonomous P5 league.
Bringing in some AAC teams might up their tv payout...which is expected to be reduced from anywhere 50-75%.

Call it the new Big12 then. I’d love this league! Meanwhile guys! I’m at Panama City Beach! The water and weather is perfect! Life goes on. eff the power 5.

Would ya stay off Back Beach Road? Some of us have to work

(07-26-2021 07:44 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 06:07 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 05:45 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  BigD I disagree...only because even without Tx and OU...the Big12 is an autonomous P5 league.
Bringing in some AAC teams might up their tv payout...which is expected to be reduced from anywhere 50-75%.

Call it the new Big12 then. I’d love this league! Meanwhile guys! I’m at Panama City Beach! The water and weather is perfect! Life goes on. eff the power 5.

Would ya stay off Back Beach Road? Some of us have to work

They call me the golf cart dad around here! I feel like the shuttle bus driver for all the kiddos. Means I have to save the gummies for night time!

(07-26-2021 06:09 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Hell, eff the power 5. Eff the SEC. eff the bUTt chuggers. Eff the NCAA. Eff ESPN. Y’all continue the effings. I gotta drink some more margaritas.

In all seriousness, TV payouts orchestrated the collapse of the old BE, the expansion of the ACC & likely has been instrumental in the UT/OU move. No reason to think TV won't be the ultimate arbiter of how the B-12 saga ends. I'm betting it will be ESPN who comes out the winner (they already are by getting UT/OU to the SEC). Either ESPN gains control of the new B-12 at a price of their liking or they elevate the AAC & cause the demise of the B-12 all together.

(07-26-2021 06:09 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Hell, eff the power 5. Eff the SEC. eff the bUTt chuggers. Eff the NCAA. Eff ESPN. Y’all continue the effings. I gotta drink some more margaritas.

If you are going to do ALL THAT then you better load up on some little blue pills.

(07-27-2021 08:13 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  In all seriousness, TV payouts orchestrated the collapse of the old BE, the expansion of the ACC & likely has been instrumental in the UT/OU move. No reason to think TV won't be the ultimate arbiter of how the B-12 saga ends. I'm betting it will be ESPN who comes out the winner (they already are by getting UT/OU to the SEC). Either ESPN gains control of the new B-12 at a price of their liking or they elevate the AAC & cause the demise of the B-12 all together.

You know E$PN is number crunching which way gets them more eyeballs, killing off the B12 and bringing their top teams into the AAC or the other way around.

(07-27-2021 10:17 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:13 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  In all seriousness, TV payouts orchestrated the collapse of the old BE, the expansion of the ACC & likely has been instrumental in the UT/OU move. No reason to think TV won't be the ultimate arbiter of how the B-12 saga ends. I'm betting it will be ESPN who comes out the winner (they already are by getting UT/OU to the SEC). Either ESPN gains control of the new B-12 at a price of their liking or they elevate the AAC & cause the demise of the B-12 all together.

You know E$PN is number crunching which way gets them more eyeballs, killing off the B12 and bringing their top teams into the AAC or the other way around.

Everything is a wild guess. Mine would be that it looks like the choice will be between the best possible Big 12 at $20 million per year and total destruction of the AAC and $2 million per year, or leaving at least two out of Memphis, UCF and Houston and making the split $15 million and $4 million.

IF there is any movement and any additions outside the P5, Cincinnati is 100% gone. They are at the top of the list for both the Big12 and the ACC.

ESPN College League ..... SEC + ACC
FOX College League .... Big 10 + PAC 12

There will be enough teams to just play among themselves in ALL sports ...

The rest will be regulated to ESPN+ or FOX streaming for their TV revenues ...

(07-27-2021 12:05 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  ESPN College League ..... SEC + ACC
FOX College League .... Big 10 + PAC 12

There will be enough teams to just play among themselves in ALL sports ...

The rest will be regulated to ESPN+ or FOX streaming for their TV revenues ...

If that were to truly come to fruition, I think ESPN is underestimating how many of us fans will just tune it all out. Why would any true blue Memphis fan continue to watch conferences and channels that essentially destroyed our chance at competing? I know I won’t.

(07-28-2021 08:48 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

I'm not sure who this @ssclown is, but USF has history and fans? REALLY? Even in Florida, the only fans that I'm aware of are alumni and parents of alumni. And for history, they started play in 1997 and have how many conference titles? Memphis has won 8 conference titles in its history including 2 in the AAC.

Tampa may be a bigger market than Memphis, but I'm willing to bet it's much more fractured among UF, FSU, and USF.