(07-27-2021 08:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:56 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 03:52 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  Loose lips sink ships.

Amen, MT98 must have gone to the ShereKhan school for negative nellies.

I figured he got our current admin mixed up with Raines & RC, somehow.

Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

Don't believe everything you read in the media.

Don’t believe the folks that say Memphis to the B12 is a done deal either.

(07-27-2021 08:37 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:56 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  Amen, MT98 must have gone to the ShereKhan school for negative nellies.

I figured he got our current admin mixed up with Raines & RC, somehow.

Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

Don't believe everything you read in the media.

Don’t believe the folks that say Memphis to the B12 is a done deal either.

Nothing is ever done until it's done. But it was a whole lot closer to that than it was to being cut at 11. Believe what you want.

FWIW, don't forget Veatch played at K-State.

(07-27-2021 08:46 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:37 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I figured he got our current admin mixed up with Raines & RC, somehow.

Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

Don't believe everything you read in the media.

Don’t believe the folks that say Memphis to the B12 is a done deal either.

Nothing is ever done until it's done. But it was a whole lot closer to that than it was to being cut at 11. Believe what you want.

People believe in Santa Claus but that doesn’t mean they have reindeer sh1t on their roofs Christmas morning.

Anyone who thought we were a done deal four years ago if blatantly lying and making things up. The Big12 was NEVER expanding in 2016.

(07-27-2021 08:48 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  FWIW, don't forget Veatch played at K-State.

He was an executive associate athletics director at Florida too. Shouldn’t we hold out for that SEC invitation?

(07-27-2021 08:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:56 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 03:52 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  Loose lips sink ships.

Amen, MT98 must have gone to the ShereKhan school for negative nellies.

I figured he got our current admin mixed up with Raines & RC, somehow.

Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

Don't believe everything you read in the media.

Are you saying that the B12 didnt drop us and add the mighty Arkansas St in our place on the list? I mean, that seems so logical that they would replace a team that was bringing tens of millions to the table and replace us with a team worth $500K per year.

I tried to warn others that the deal was dead and noone was getting added if Memphis wasnt getting added, but Cinci went ahead and had those B12 drapes created anyway.

(07-27-2021 08:54 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:46 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:37 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

Don't believe everything you read in the media.

Don’t believe the folks that say Memphis to the B12 is a done deal either.

Nothing is ever done until it's done. But it was a whole lot closer to that than it was to being cut at 11. Believe what you want.

People believe in Santa Claus but that doesn’t mean they have reindeer sh1t on their roofs Christmas morning.

Are there still actual clowns that believe that Rice, UConn and Tulane made the cut ahead of us? Fascinating.

(07-27-2021 08:59 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Anyone who thought we were a done deal four years ago if blatantly lying and making things up. The Big12 was NEVER expanding in 2016.

- For the last 15 years, the league has had two jackasses as commissioners, notable for being spineless, unable to lead and guide, and having less of a vision for the future than a donkey with a carrot being dangled in front of its nose.

With all of the issues listed below, it would have taken a miracle, but they almost pulled it off. It was a go up to the Friday before.

- Everyone's HATE for Houston made it a disaster for the league to vote in only Cincinnati and Memphis, but that's what would have happened. If a suitable partner for UCF was out there, they would have added 4.

- Not liking the low tv ratings of their games on the Fox Sports networks

- Iowa State, Kansas State, Kansas, Texas Tech and West Virginia were justifiably worried, that the added schools would relegate their games to FS1, FS2, the Fox regional stations or to no tv at all.

- In the beginning it was a disaster, because none of the schools were willing to even consider the greater good. They only cared about their own school in a vacuum.

They managed to more or less figure it out, but when they faced adversity and had to adjust, they didn't have the commissioner or the leadership at any of the schools to make it happen.

All the Big 12 had to do was add Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF and Houston, and they would have been weakened, but they still would be intact as a viable conference making at least $25 million per year in tv money.

I don't think adding AAC schools would have stopped either Texas and OU or a group of (rightfully) paranoid second-tier schools from leaving for greener pastures. What it would have done is left 10-12 established P5 members in huge football markets like TX, TN, FL and OH to rebuild instead of 8 in TX and Parts Unknown that could easily fall to 3 or 4 if other leagues get antsy.

If the administration were smart, they'd Fed-Ex a box of chicken tenders from Houston's to Stillwater, Lubbock, Ames, Manhattan, & Lawrence...stat!

(07-27-2021 08:59 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Anyone who thought we were a done deal four years ago if blatantly lying and making things up. The Big12 was NEVER expanding in 2016.

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:56 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 03:52 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  Loose lips sink ships.

Amen, MT98 must have gone to the ShereKhan school for negative nellies.

I figured he got our current admin mixed up with Raines & RC, somehow.

Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

We didn't make the cut on a list from which nobody made the cut. It wasn't a serious effort.

As for this, a few things have happened since 2016:

46-19 in football
1 AAC Championship
3 AAC Championship game appearances
Cotton Bowl
Laurie-Walton and Football IPF open
Penny Hardaway replaces Tubby Smith
Improved academic rankings

Maybe not enough but definitely some positive moves

(07-27-2021 08:37 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 08:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 07:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:56 PM)Bill83 Wrote:  Amen, MT98 must have gone to the ShereKhan school for negative nellies.

I figured he got our current admin mixed up with Raines & RC, somehow.

Nah, I just know that we didnt make the cut last time (12th on the list at best) and see no reason to believe we'd be anywhere close this time. Adding 4 or 5 of the current B12 to the AAC would be the best thing, but the B12 is run by small minded idiots who are gonna hang on for every cent they can get from OU and Texas. They'll backfill with some combo of Houston, Cincy, SMU, Boise, BYU, UCF, USF. Maybe all of them. The folks in the B12 are so stupid, it wouldn't surprise me if they took Tulane over us for "academics" even with their 20,000 seat half empty football stadium and crackerbox gym with 800 people a game in attendance. They deliver the New Orleans market ya know.

It had been a pretty good summer for Tiger sports. Playoff trending toward expansion put us in a good spot. Larry Brown. The prospect of landing Duren. Then, bam. We get hit with this conf realignment thing again which never seems to work well for us. Big East round 1, BE fell apart when we joined, B12 non-expansion in 2016- we always seem to be left out in the cold.

Our best hope is ESPN deciding to somewhat merge the AAC and whats left of the Big 12. But that will come down to $$, so who knows.

Don't believe everything you read in the media.

Don’t believe the folks that say Memphis to the B12 is a done deal either.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas-sta...oo71BwS7eQ

"With the recent announcement of two of our institutions electing to depart the conference following the 2024-25 season, Kansas State University and the additional seven members of the Big 12 Conference are eager to collaborate and position ourselves for continued success. We have terrific leadership at the conference, university and state board of regents levels, and our fans should know that every effort is being made to put Kansas State and the Big 12 Conference in the best position moving forward."

Behind the scenes, sources tell GoPowercat that Kansas State is working to preserve the Big 12 Conference through expansion, with schools such as Cincinnati, Memphis, Central Florida, and Houston being immediate targets.

(07-27-2021 08:59 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  Anyone who thought we were a done deal four years ago if blatantly lying and making things up. The Big12 was NEVER expanding in 2016.

I believe we've had 2 ambassadors confirm that on this very board.

1 thing we've learned...is that expansion is like sands that are constantly shifting.
One thing that may be true for now...may not be true 5 minutes from now.
Things constantly happening.

As for last round expansion..we were in. We've all heard about the last minute backroom deal where we told the Big 12 to kiss our azzes. (had an agreement to join, then they trried to alter the parameters of the deal)
How else would you explain teams like Rice being interviewed as candidates instead of us for Big 12 expansion? If you use your BRAIN and logic...you'd know that Rice adds nothing to the Big 12 except academic prestige and baseball. The Big 12 needs that as much as Jeff Bezos needs $100.
The last go-round was a harder sell for Memphis because we had not had sustained success in football. Since then, we've added a Cotton Bowl appearance, a NIT championship...and seen as a strong athletic program.
We're a lot more attractive now than we were when we were accepted for membership into the Big East.