(07-26-2021 11:21 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 11:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:20 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I have a very hard time believing USM would get a look from the AAC.

I have a hard time the B12 backfills with a bunch of no name AAC schools with no markets / eyeballs.

The B12 will stay at 8 schools and maybe talk Missouri or BYU into joining.

Why would Missouri take a 50 million dollar a year pay-cut? 0% chance.

They don't want to be in a conference with Texas, that's why they left the B12.

(07-26-2021 11:26 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 10:15 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  I think Marshall would take almost any alternative at this point. No offense to anyone. I think there are a ton of good schools and good programs in CUSA. The geography improvement and TV money is too enticing. People here are frustrated by how many of Marshall's football games always get picked up by primary holders and how little the payout is.

I think we'd even strongly consider a MAC return. Belt would just be a maybe.

Watered down AAC would be a no-brainer.

New East Coast league, for sure.

I just don't see a return to the MAC. For that to happen the MAC would have to be reconfigured with some schools either dropping to IAA or athletics altogether. And if it hasn't happened by now I don't see it happening. Also no one in the MAC ever wanted us there. I never felt welcome to any away game I went to, including at Ohio.

Agreed. The last year we played in the MAC we played 5 games in the state of Ohio!!! Hard to recruit Florida and the South East when parents can't see their kids play. Plus the majority of our Alumni Clubs are in the South East. Playing in CUSA gives all of our Alumni a chance to go to our away games and that makes a lot of our Alumni happy.

(07-26-2021 11:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:20 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  I have a very hard time believing USM would get a look from the AAC.

I have a hard time believing the B12 backfills with a bunch of no name AAC schools with no markets / eyeballs.

The B12 will stay at 8 schools and maybe talk Missouri or BYU into joining.

I mean, I wouldn’t complain. But I would be surprised.

(07-26-2021 12:03 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  Agreed. The last year we played in the MAC we played 5 games in the state of Ohio!!! Hard to recruit Florida and the South East when parents can't see their kids play. Plus the majority of our Alumni Clubs are in the South East. Playing in CUSA gives all of our Alumni a chance to go to our away games and that makes a lot of our Alumni happy.

The only way I could see it is if the MAC were to lose 4-5 schools and the shift went away from Ohio and Michigan. But then could you call that the MAC then. And in a world where 6 schools have been together since 1952 (Bowling Green, Kent State, Ohio, Miami, Toledo, Western Michigan) and 9 together since 1973 (Ball State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan) I just don't see it.

The scenario I see playing out is the SEC, PAC, B1G and ACC taking the pieces of the B12 they want. What is left of the B12 take the best programs from the AAC and MWC to gut the G5. What is left of the MWC takes what's left of the West G5. What's left of the AAC takes what's left of the East G5. CUSA/SBC remnants that didn't get an invite to the two conferences above band together (maybe some sort of new SWC forms from the remnants depending on geography).

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(07-26-2021 10:15 AM)Superanjario Wrote:  I think Marshall would take almost any alternative at this point. No offense to anyone. I think there are a ton of good schools and good programs in CUSA. The geography improvement and TV money is too enticing. People here are frustrated by how many of Marshall's football games always get picked up by primary holders and how little the payout is.

I think we'd even strongly consider a MAC return. Belt would just be a maybe.

Watered down AAC would be a no-brainer.

New East Coast league, for sure.

The MAC would have to want you first.

Why is Rice always floated around? If only media market of the town the team is in matters then Alabama belongs in CUSA.

(07-26-2021 02:45 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Why is Rice always floated around? If only media market of the town the team is in matters then Alabama belongs in CUSA.

B/c university presidents make these decisions and they want to be associated with Rice. Academics matter at least as much as markets.

Without Cincy and Memphis or UCF and USF AAC would have no appeal to MWC teams. Honestly would it be that much better than CUSA with those loses?

OU and TX to SEC
Kansas to the B1G
OSU and TCU/TTU to the PAC

This leaves 5. Big 12 adds BYU, Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and UCF

AAC adds UAB, Rice, and one more from the east and stays at 10.

The MWC big name schools now have zero interest in a depleted AAC.

CUSA adds ONE (TXST) and stops at 12

(07-26-2021 05:11 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Without Cincy and Memphis or UCF and USF AAC would have no appeal to MWC teams. Honestly would it be that much better than CUSA with those loses?

Yes, if replaced by the best of the rest from CUSA and the Belt. Although I expect Navy goes back to independent under those circumstances.

(07-26-2021 05:11 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Without Cincy and Memphis or UCF and USF AAC would have no appeal to MWC teams. Honestly would it be that much better than CUSA with those loses?

Yes renewed rivalries with ECU, Houston, Tulane etc. Would be a game changer for USM. Fan interest would moon overnight like my crypto.

(07-26-2021 05:38 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  OU and TX to SEC
Kansas to the B1G
OSU and TCU/TTU to the PAC

This leaves 5. Big 12 adds BYU, Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and UCF

AAC adds UAB, Rice, and one more from the east and stays at 10.

The MWC big name schools now have zero interest in a depleted AAC.

CUSA adds ONE (TXST) and stops at 12

What are you people smoking? The Big 12 is NOT going to add 4 AAC schools. Maybe one or two.

Assuming the remaining 8 schools stay together, the very first thing the Big 12 will do is add BYU. BYU is a very well known commodity, draws 65K at home, has it's own TV network and isn't obligated to pay conference exit fees. And the geography is not terrible either. So, BYU is an easy add.

So, AFTER the Big 12 adds BYU to get to 9 schools, the conference will do a year-long thorough review to decide if Houston, Cincinnati or UCF are worthy. Most of this will simply be for publicity purposes. It makes the conference appear desired and coveted. My guess is that Houston and Cincinnati have the inside track based upon geography. But only one will be invited.

(07-26-2021 05:38 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  OU and TX to SEC
Kansas to the B1G
OSU and TCU/TTU to the PAC

This leaves 5. Big 12 adds BYU, Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and UCF

AAC adds UAB, Rice, and one more from the east and stays at 10.

The MWC big name schools now have zero interest in a depleted AAC.

CUSA adds ONE (TXST) and stops at 12

The B1G won't invite Kansas. There is already a mutual distaste between the conf & Nebraska. I can't see them wanting another midwest school with one marketable sport and an overall profile, academic & athletic, that doesn't fit with anyone in the conference. If anything, we may see Nebraska leave the B1G, or getting nudged to, to be a TOP DOG (as they would see it) in the remaining Big 12.

Nebraska will NOT LEAVE MILLIONS to go back to B12

(07-26-2021 07:31 PM)blazr Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 05:38 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  OU and TX to SEC
Kansas to the B1G
OSU and TCU/TTU to the PAC

This leaves 5. Big 12 adds BYU, Cincy, Memphis, Houston, and UCF

AAC adds UAB, Rice, and one more from the east and stays at 10.

The MWC big name schools now have zero interest in a depleted AAC.

CUSA adds ONE (TXST) and stops at 12

The B1G won't invite Kansas. There is already a mutual distaste between the conf & Nebraska. I can't see them wanting another midwest school with one marketable sport and an overall profile, academic & athletic, that doesn't fit with anyone in the conference. If anything, we may see Nebraska leave the B1G, or getting nudged to, to be a TOP DOG (as they would see it) in the remaining Big 12.

Good post. I'm perfectly aware of the very rocky relationship between Nebraska and the B1G. Both are currently miserable with each other, and neither makes any bones about it. I truly believe Nebraska misses being the "Top Dog", like they were back in their Big 8 days. It's also why the Cornhuskers left the Big 12; they didn't like taking a back seat to Texas/OU. But would the Huskers leave the warm, safe and secure B1G --and all that money-- to join the leftover 8 in the Big 12? Probably not. BUT, it is an option for Nebraska, and adding Nebraska would make the new Big 12 conference legitimate again. In fact, adding Nebraska and BYU (good geography for both) would be a HOME RUN for the Big12, and put the Big 12 back in business. It would also allow Nebraska to be the "Top Dog" again in their conference.

I believe that you are also correct when you say the B1G won't be offering Kansas an invite. Kansas just doesn't fit the B1G profile.

(07-26-2021 07:43 PM)KY4MU Wrote:  Nebraska will NOT LEAVE MILLIONS to go back to B12

Nebraska WANTS to leave the B1G. Just Google it. They ultimately leave or are forced out, but neither party is enjoying the current state of things. Unless, of course, the Big 12 completely dissolves or gets an untenable media deal...in that case I guess they hold their noses and stay together

Well, one thing remains blatantly clear, the SEC is the #1 POWER CONFERENCE in the nation and the Big 12 is a 2nd tier P5 league, soon to be a 3rd tier. You don't see schools leaving the SEC...not since Georgia Tech and Tulane stupidly did way back in the 1960s...BIG mistake, especially for Tulane. In modern times EVERY school...except maybe Notre Dame...would sell its soul to join the SEC.

As for how UT and OU's departure will cause a trickle-down, that remains to be seen. I don't think there will much movement early on, and maybe never. The transfer of 1 or 2 schools into the Big (very little, teensy tiny!) 12 would stabilize matters.

(07-27-2021 01:42 AM)blazr Wrote:  Nebraska WANTS to leave the B1G. Just Google it.

Yep if it’s on Google I must believe it.

(07-27-2021 07:11 AM)KY4MU Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 01:42 AM)blazr Wrote:  Nebraska WANTS to leave the B1G. Just Google it.

Yep if it’s on Google I must believe it.

I chuckled.....