(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

Kinda like Tulane before you got the invite, huh? Tulane was the epitome of D league wasteland (whatever that means). When it comes to snobbery you are #1 in all of our hearts.

(07-25-2021 11:15 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 11:09 AM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 10:56 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Let's stop the delusions of the AAC poaching the B12. Who do you see as backfills for Cindy, UCF, and possibly two other teams.

I'd like Southern Miss, App State, Georgia State, and of course, Northern Illinois.

Everyone is on a high just thinking about poaching big 12 leftovers, you cant ask them to think differently to poach G5 teams. give it a few weeks before this thread starts.

Yes, looking more & more like the B-12 will dissolve with no means available for those the 4-6 left behind to collect exit fees or media rights beyond 2025 (which is the likely date of UT/OU beginning SEC competition).

I'm with you on this. The Big XII dissolves and Texas and Oklahoma head to the SEC without leaving a dime with the left behind gang. As someone stated somewhere in one of these threads, if any of the remaining schools have reached out to other conferences for a life raft they've lost their voting rights, so there's that right in the middle of the thing.

(07-25-2021 06:47 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

Kinda like Tulane before you got the invite, huh? Tulane was the epitome of D league wasteland (whatever that means). When it comes to snobbery you are #1 in all of our hearts.

See? This is what I was afraid of, all the C-USA and Sun Belt people coming over to our peaceful board to prostitute themselves to a bunch of people who have no say in any of this whatsoever. It’s about to get very pathetic in here. As far as USM goes, we got the invite and not you. We are the superior athletic program and you are not. This isn’t 1987 anymore. Tulane has surpassed you years ago. You can’t even bring up scores anymore because we hung 60 on you last year. No academics, no market, no thanks.

(07-25-2021 07:18 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 06:47 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

Kinda like Tulane before you got the invite, huh? Tulane was the epitome of D league wasteland (whatever that means). When it comes to snobbery you are #1 in all of our hearts.

See? This is what I was afraid of, all the C-USA and Sun Belt people coming over to our peaceful board to prostitute themselves to a bunch of people who have no say in any of this whatsoever. It’s about to get very pathetic in here. As far as USM goes, we got the invite and not you. We are the superior athletic program and you are not. This isn’t 1987 anymore. Tulane has surpassed you years ago. You can’t even bring up scores anymore because we hung 60 on you last year. No academics, no market, no thanks.

Superior athletic program is a big stretch. You had years of being a whipping boy. Superior athletic programs do not punt of 3rd down b/c they just want to go home b/c big brother is beating up on them. You are very afraid b/c you know USM on even footing with more money will surpass Tulane in every category (other than snobbery).

(07-25-2021 02:41 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:37 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

You're trolling. Please stop.

Because I don’t think any G4 team adds value to our conference? Half the people on this board feel the same way I do. That’s not trolling, that’s reality. I’ll respect whatever decision our conference makes but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

What the F are you smoking. You're 35-51 in the American. Boise in the same time frame is.....67-19. They're not good enough for the AAC Spelling Bee champs?

(07-25-2021 07:40 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:41 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:37 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

You're trolling. Please stop.

Because I don’t think any G4 team adds value to our conference? Half the people on this board feel the same way I do. That’s not trolling, that’s reality. I’ll respect whatever decision our conference makes but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

What the F are you smoking. You're 35-51 in the American. Boise in the same time frame is.....67-19. They're not good enough for the AAC Spelling Bee champs?

2 of those are against Memphis in the last 4 years. Pick your battles.gif

(07-25-2021 07:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 07:40 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:41 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:37 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

You're trolling. Please stop.

Because I don’t think any G4 team adds value to our conference? Half the people on this board feel the same way I do. That’s not trolling, that’s reality. I’ll respect whatever decision our conference makes but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

What the F are you smoking. You're 35-51 in the American. Boise in the same time frame is.....67-19. They're not good enough for the AAC Spelling Bee champs?

2 of those are against Memphis in the last 4 years. Pick your battles.gif

They beat Memphis so his logic makes sense?

(07-25-2021 06:47 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

Kinda like Tulane before you got the invite, huh? Tulane was the epitome of D league wasteland (whatever that means). When it comes to snobbery you are #1 in all of our hearts.

Go back in your time machine and re live your past glory. It’s a short film. The new reality, and it sucks for you guys, is you have zero market, zero cache, and your athletic department is a shambles. You have no money to make up for any of those deficiencies, so, throwing stones is probably not in your best interest. Good luck, though.

This conference has guys who slob the nob over historical records. .

(07-25-2021 07:00 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 11:15 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 11:09 AM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 10:56 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Let's stop the delusions of the AAC poaching the B12. Who do you see as backfills for Cindy, UCF, and possibly two other teams.

I'd like Southern Miss, App State, Georgia State, and of course, Northern Illinois.

Everyone is on a high just thinking about poaching big 12 leftovers, you cant ask them to think differently to poach G5 teams. give it a few weeks before this thread starts.

Yes, looking more & more like the B-12 will dissolve with no means available for those the 4-6 left behind to collect exit fees or media rights beyond 2025 (which is the likely date of UT/OU beginning SEC competition).

I'm with you on this. The Big XII dissolves and Texas and Oklahoma head to the SEC without leaving a dime with the left behind gang. As someone stated somewhere in one of these threads, if any of the remaining schools have reached out to other conferences for a life raft they've lost their voting rights, so there's that right in the middle of the thing.

Look for the B12 to issue invites very soon, before more members leave, and AAC/MWC invitees to accept promptly.

(07-25-2021 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This conference has guys who slob the nob over historical records. .

And some that are embarrassed by historical records.

(07-25-2021 09:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This conference has guys who slob the nob over historical records. .

And some that are embarrassed by historical records.

If you pick non power 5 replacement teams (excluding Notre Dame) based on the 2019 highest average attendances, here are your top 10 choices.

BYU - 59,547
Boise St - 32,070
Fresno St - 31,552
Army - 30,989
San Diego St - 29,896
Air Force - 27,084
Southern Miss - 24,765
UAB - 24,726
App State - 23,806
Troy - 23,499

For reference, the AAC teams with average attendances greater than Troy in 2019 are the following -

UCF - 43,788
Memphis - 38,816
Cincinnati - 35,985
ECU - 33,134
Navy - 31,970
USF - 31,823
Temple - 29,460
Houston - 25,518
SMU - 23,633

Source - http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2019.pdf

(07-25-2021 09:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This conference has guys who slob the nob over historical records. .

And some that are embarrassed by historical records.

Historical record smack is the designator of permanent G5 status.

Take a tip from a friend and leave that to East Carolina.

Army if they are interested. FAU definitely. Appalachian State has earned it. Southern Miss and Marshall because they are old friends. UAB has changed things down there and are a powerin CUSA now with a new stadium. Arkansas State has a nice program. North Texas gives you the Dallas media market if we lose SMU. Louisiana has been good for a while now.

(07-25-2021 10:13 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 09:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This conference has guys who slob the nob over historical records. .

And some that are embarrassed by historical records.

Historical record smack is the designator of permanent G5 status.

Take a tip from a friend and leave that to East Carolina.

Agreed, history means nothing. Not a thing. It’s about markets and academics and literally nothing else. But all these C-USA people will be over here shortly beating their chest how they beat Tulane or Memphis in 1989 so that makes them think they are on our level. It’s pathetic and I hope the mods nip it in the bud.

If the AAC was to lose just 2 members my guess is Rice would get the call up so the AAC can go back to 10.

1) Academics. They do matter.
2) Replacement for Houston.
3) Deep tradition in CFB.

For these reasons something like calling up Liberty is definitely out.

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

The fact that this is coming from a Tulane fan though.

(07-25-2021 07:18 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 06:47 PM)everyone Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 02:32 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  There is literally nobody in the G4 that does it for me. None of those schools add any value whatsoever. Sure Boise State has won a few football games here and there but where’s the market? Where’s the academics? No schools left out there in that D league wasteland offer any value whatsoever. We have worked very hard to bring our conference to within the top 3-4 best conferences in football. Why would we throw it down the toilet by inviting teams like Boise, App state, Southern Miss, etc. It makes no sense.

Kinda like Tulane before you got the invite, huh? Tulane was the epitome of D league wasteland (whatever that means). When it comes to snobbery you are #1 in all of our hearts.

See? This is what I was afraid of, all the C-USA and Sun Belt people coming over to our peaceful board to prostitute themselves to a bunch of people who have no say in any of this whatsoever. It’s about to get very pathetic in here. As far as USM goes, we got the invite and not you. We are the superior athletic program and you are not. This isn’t 1987 anymore. Tulane has surpassed you years ago. You can’t even bring up scores anymore because we hung 60 on you last year. No academics, no market, no thanks.

1. This board was NEVER peaceful. NEVER.
2. We're lucky USM went 0-12 when they did.
3. It's less about Tulane surpassing USM and more about USM not being what they once were. They've fallen off badly, and our very marginal growth looks substantial as a result.

It's important to realize that Texas Tech looks at Tulane like Tulane looks at Sun Belt/CUSA schools.

(07-25-2021 10:49 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 10:13 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 09:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-25-2021 08:57 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This conference has guys who slob the nob over historical records. .

And some that are embarrassed by historical records.

Historical record smack is the designator of permanent G5 status.

Take a tip from a friend and leave that to East Carolina.

Agreed, history means nothing. Not a thing. It’s about markets and academics and literally nothing else. But all these C-USA people will be over here shortly beating their chest how they beat Tulane or Memphis in 1989 so that makes them think they are on our level. It’s pathetic and I hope the mods nip it in the bud.

UAB beat Tulane in 2018.

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Seeing UAB prove how much it deserved to exist all along warmed my bitter blue heart so I'm honestly even willing to forgive them for what Darrell Hackney did to my soul in the eleven years he played. I'd fully support their inclusion (behind other, more MWC-ish candidates) if we end up in the AAC and that AAC needs numbers. Football, basketball, market, relatively total package tbh. Certainly no more controversial than Tulane was to most of this league a few years ago.