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USC, UCLA to leave Pac-12 for Big Ten in 2024:

Please, please stop using academics and student-athlete BS. This is what it’s all about at this level of college athletics: “This movement also comes at a key time for the Big Ten, which will be expanding its conference with a couple major brands while in the midst of its own negotiations for a new media rights deal. That deal could start as soon as next season and reportedly exceed $1 billion per year in value.”


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...c-shakeup/
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RE: SEC EXPANSION
Will NCAA Division I college football subdivide into three independent divisions consisting of something like (1) The Super Conferences, (2) The Mid-Level Conferences (present non-super FBS conferences, and (3) The Other Conferences (present FCS scholarship conferences)?


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...n-playoff/

https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/acc-pac-12...n-bonanza/

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/the...he-pac-12/
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(07-03-2022 04:07 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Will NCAA Division I college football subdivide into three independent divisions consisting of something like (1) The Super Conferences, (2) The Mid-Level Conferences (present non-super FBS conferences, and (3) The Other Conferences (present FCS scholarship conferences)?


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...n-playoff/

Kinda became a moot point when the SoCon doubled its exit fee... we're staying unless something really impressive comes along. We're not leaving for CUSA or we would have jumped in the fall, IMO.

I'm done pretending to know what the Power 5 are doing, though. Nothing means anything anymore at that level.
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(07-07-2022 09:01 PM)Mister Consistency Wrote:  
(07-03-2022 04:07 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Will NCAA Division I college football subdivide into three independent divisions consisting of something like (1) The Super Conferences, (2) The Mid-Level Conferences (present non-super FBS conferences, and (3) The Other Conferences (present FCS scholarship conferences)?


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...n-playoff/

Kinda became a moot point when the SoCon doubled its exit fee... we're staying unless something really impressive comes along. We're not leaving for CUSA or we would have jumped in the fall, IMO.

I'm done pretending to know what the Power 5 are doing, though. Nothing means anything anymore at that level.

For sure - the Power Five, or whatever that group becomes, is certainly focused on MONEY. Of course money is necessary, but how much is enough? However, as all this shakes out - the rich appear to be getting richer and the poor poorer unless the big boys start paying the other schools to become their minor leagues with relation to the Transfer Portal.

The unanimous vote (below) by the SoCon presidents represents old school thinking - of which I fully endorse. Who would think that stability, common sense, even academics still have a place in 2022 college athletics?



SPARTANBURG, S.C. – In an effort to emphasize its long-term commitment to membership in the Southern Conference, the 10-member Southern Conference Council of Presidents unanimously voted to increase the exit fee provision.

“In a rapidly changing college athletics landscape, this decision represents our member institutions’ collective interest in furthering the strong sports tradition of the Southern Conference and its steadfast commitment to the student-athlete academic experience,” said UNC Greensboro Chancellor Dr. Franklin D. Gilliam Jr., chair of the SoCon Council of Presidents.

The exit fee was doubled to $2 million with proper notice. The decision was made to underscore Southern Conference member school commitment in the midst of changes among other conferences.

“The statement made here is that the Southern Conference stands for stability and that there is a strong commitment to the conference by our member institutions,” Southern Conference Commissioner Jim Schaus said. “I am proud of the harmony and sense of partnership that exists within our membership.

“There has been extensive interest expressed in our conference and members recently and that is a compliment to the quality of athletics, academics and integrity among our 10 outstanding institutions. Our membership focus is quality over quantity. We confidently and collectively move ahead as a conference committed to excellence in all areas.”
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(07-07-2022 09:01 PM)Mister Consistency Wrote:  
(07-03-2022 04:07 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Will NCAA Division I college football subdivide into three independent divisions consisting of something like (1) The Super Conferences, (2) The Mid-Level Conferences (present non-super FBS conferences, and (3) The Other Conferences (present FCS scholarship conferences)?


https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...n-playoff/

Kinda became a moot point when the SoCon doubled its exit fee... we're staying unless something really impressive comes along. We're not leaving for CUSA or we would have jumped in the fall, IMO.

I'm done pretending to know what the Power 5 are doing, though. Nothing means anything anymore at that level.
In the national fans minds there is no mid level conferences. They see P5 and everyone else.
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Just kicking around - if ETSU and Chattanooga moved to the Sun Belt Conference down the road, ETSU in the East Football Division and Chattanooga in the West Football Division, could either school make enough money to cover the added expenses WITHOUT increasing student athletic fees? Would modern day ETSU fans turn out in larger numbers with ETSU playing Marshall instead of Furman, playing App State instead of Western Carolina, playing Georgia Southern instead of VMI, of playing James Madison instead of Wofford, etc.?
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(07-09-2022 08:24 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  Just kicking around - if ETSU and Chattanooga moved to the Sun Belt Conference down the road, ETSU in the East Football Division and Chattanooga in the West Football Division, could either school make enough money to cover the added expenses WITHOUT increasing student athletic fees? Would modern day ETSU fans turn out in larger numbers with ETSU playing Marshall instead of Furman, playing App State instead of Western Carolina, playing Georgia Southern instead of VMI, of playing James Madison instead of Wofford, etc.?

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If the BIG 10 expands to twenty, will the SEC be forced to follow?





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(07-27-2022 06:51 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  If the BIG 10 expands to twenty, will the SEC be forced to follow?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...onsidered/

Possibly. It depends on who is available and whether they would be revenue additive. Clemson and FSU might not add many new TV markets, but they're in-demand brands that draw eyeballs. Is that enough to push the value of the TV deal upwards? As crazy as it sounds, schools like North Carolina and Virginia Tech might be net drags on revenue for the SEC at this point, just like Oregon and Washington would be for the Big Ten. These are astronomical figures we're talking about.

At this point, I'm sort of resigned to the way things are to the point I am actively rooting for more corporations to get involved and create more competition for Disney and Fox... having Paramount and/or Comcast wade into the space in earnest wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit. If we're going to have super-conferences, let's at least try to have more than two. Even Pepsi and Coke have Dr. Pepper for competition.
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