(06-16-2021 09:58 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Separate list, and please add anyone I'm leaving out.

Schools who were once indisputably either in power conferences or were power independents, but both longer are

The whole Ivy League
Army
Navy
Houston
SMU
Rice
Tulane
Sewanee
Idaho
Montana
Chicago
Cincinnati
UConn (Power for hoops now but not pigskin)
USF
Temple
The 60's and 70's WAC?
Pre-ACC SoCon: (Furman, The Citadel, VMI, anyone else?)

Whitman
Colorado Mines RMAC
Colorado State RMAC
Western Colorado RMAC
Colorado College RMAC
Denver RMAC
Utah State RMAC
Montana State RMAC
Wyoming RMAC
Northern Colorado RMAC Colorado, BYU and Utah were members at the same time.
Washington & Lee SoCon
Richmond SoCon
William & Mary SoCon
George Washington SoCon
Washington MO. MVC, Big 8
Grinnell MVC and Big 8
Butler, Tulsa, St. Louis, Detroit Mercy, Wichita State and North Texas State in MVC before they lost a rank in power.
Southwestern Texas, Phillips
Border Conference was considered a power conference.
UTEP
Hardin-Simmons
Northern Arizona
West Texas A&M
New Mexico
New Mexico State

Other known major power football team in the past.
Case
Western Reserves
Carnegie Tech
Johns Hopkins
St. Mary's
Fordham
Holy Cross
Marquette
NYU
Temple
Colgate
Georgetoiwn
Vermont
Wayne State
Franklin and Marshall
Lafayette
Pacific
Delaware
Lehigh
Boston U.
Tampa
Amherst
Catholic U.

Other power or major conferences were Mid 3, SIAA.

(06-16-2021 12:18 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 12:01 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 08:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 05:16 AM)Erictelevision Wrote:  For fun, went to Wikipedia, looking for FBS schools in Rocky Mountain and Border conferences. There was NO overlap. If the conference reunited, here's the lineup:

BYU
Colorado
CSU
Utah
USU
Wyoming
Arizona
ASU
UNM
NMSU
Texas Tech
UTEP

That's a very good league.

I agree! If this became reality in 2021, how do the effected conferences respond?

BYU and the 5 P5 schools would never leave what they have now to go back to a league like this.

I wonder if some determined ADs could could make a new conference with some old Big 8 and old OG WAC members that aren't too satisfied with their new leagues.

Utah
BYU
Colorado
Colorado St. or Wyoming or UNLV or Nevada
Arizona
Arizona St.

New Mexico
Texas Tech
Kansas
Kansas St.
Nebraska
Iowa St.

Highly improbably but geographically it's great. There would only be 2 members from a G5 conference and those two could be state flagship schools so all would be academically similar schools. Maybe even get Oklahoma and Oklahoma St to join to get to 14 and do a 3 permanent opponent pod system. That would cripple the Big 12 and the schools could avoid toxic Texas. It would be better than PAC for football and closer to ACC. Easily the fourth best football conference. Lots of old rivalries would be played yearly again. For all the schools though, recruiting Texas and California would be much more difficult and that's a big risk along with uncertainties with finances and TV contracts.

Where does the Skyline Conference fit in historically?

A parent to the MW/WAC

Okay there was some digging especially from 360 guy on Youtube who did a historical timeline of D1 conferences. There was one school that we did not mentioned that seemed to be some history that Whitman helped formed the PCC now the PAC 12, and played a couple of seasons there. Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Idaho, Montana and Whitman was in a conference that is now the D3 northwest coference before they joined the PCC. Oregon lost 3 games to Whitman back then.

Where would Whitman be today?

(06-15-2021 04:00 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's my proposal -- very much open to suggestions!

From the 1960s through 1990, the power conferences were those that had ties with the four New Year's Day bowls:

SEC
B1G
PAC
SWC
Big 8

(07-22-2021 06:30 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Okay there was some digging especially from 360 guy on Youtube who did a historical timeline of D1 conferences. There was one school that we did not mentioned that seemed to be some history that Whitman helped formed the PCC now the PAC 12, and played a couple of seasons there. Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Idaho, Montana and Whitman was in a conference that is now the D3 northwest coference before they joined the PCC. Oregon lost 3 games to Whitman back then.

Where would Whitman be today?

I’ve never heard of this so I went back to his P12 video to see what you were talking about. It’s about 23 seconds in.





It isn’t saying Whitman helped form the PCC or was in the D3 Northwest Conference. It’s saying Whitman was in a league that no longer exists called the Pacific Northwest Intercollegiate Conference with Washington, Washington St, Oregon, Oregon St, & Idaho before UW/UO/OSU broke off to form the PCC.