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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
No inside info, but I could fully see the Big 10 picking up someone like a Kansas and maybe Iowa state/Texas tech type school now to get to 16. [/u]
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(07-30-2021 01:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:45 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:31 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 09:03 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Make no mistake...A&M was LIVID with Texas joining the league.
They had made a verbal agreement with former commish Mike Slive that Texas would not be invited without the Argues being okay with it. A&M left the Big 12 as did Colorado and Nebraska to get away from Texas domineering the conference with its sizable influence.
The SEC then went behind A&M's back and struck a deal with OU and Texas.
That is why A&M was the source of the leak... that's why they stated they wanted to be the ONLY school in the SEC from Texas.
The Board of Regents ORDERED the Texas A&M president to vote for inclusion.

Now I get it. You don't like Stammers, and Stammers doesn't like you.
I've been on the receiving end of Stammers' ire myself. It's not fun...it sucks.
But he was correct. A&M's president WANTED to reject Texas being included, there had been talks with other schools about a vote to block the measure... I was hearing Arkansas and Missouri...2 teams also in a conference with Texas who weren't fond of them.
Let it go man.

STAMMERS was INCORRECT----they voted in favor ---it doesn't matter the reason that he was wrong--it don't matter if they liked it or not---the fact is they voted YES

I do think STAMMERS was correct that some didn't really like it----but the facts are they voted yes------and REMEMBER STAMMERS only deals with facts


He said 'I can see', not 'I do see' - that is a far cry claiming it WILL happen., Just sayin' 04-cheers

True-true-----but by the same token he could have said ..." I can see TXAM and others voting yes-whether they like it or not".......just sayin

A bozo with an IQ of 40 arguing nuance. Wrong again, but the the sheer ambition of the effort was admirable.

Calling someone else a bozo for arguing nuance from the king of nuance.

“In 2016 we were getting into the Big 12, until we weren’t.”

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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(07-27-2021 07:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know why most seem fixated on going crazy adding a bunch of schools. It makes no sense on any level. Go to 12, lock in a good contract, and sign a GOR until 2035.

Screw Boise, San Diego State, BYU and I everyone else in the middle of nowhere.


I disagree a bit here.
More trams provide insurance that if a couple of teams drop, we don't have to invite the dregs from CUSA, or the MWC conferences.
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(07-31-2021 11:00 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 01:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:45 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:31 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  STAMMERS was INCORRECT----they voted in favor ---it doesn't matter the reason that he was wrong--it don't matter if they liked it or not---the fact is they voted YES

I do think STAMMERS was correct that some didn't really like it----but the facts are they voted yes------and REMEMBER STAMMERS only deals with facts


He said 'I can see', not 'I do see' - that is a far cry claiming it WILL happen., Just sayin' 04-cheers

True-true-----but by the same token he could have said ..." I can see TXAM and others voting yes-whether they like it or not".......just sayin

A bozo with an IQ of 40 arguing nuance. Wrong again, but the the sheer ambition of the effort was admirable.

Calling someone else a bozo for arguing nuance from the king of nuance.

“In 2016 we were getting into the Big 12, until we weren’t.”

03-lmfao

Yes, they were discussing expansion, but didn't identify any potential additions. Keep up the good work. 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(08-01-2021 04:32 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-31-2021 11:00 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 01:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:45 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  He said 'I can see', not 'I do see' - that is a far cry claiming it WILL happen., Just sayin' 04-cheers

True-true-----but by the same token he could have said ..." I can see TXAM and others voting yes-whether they like it or not".......just sayin

A bozo with an IQ of 40 arguing nuance. Wrong again, but the the sheer ambition of the effort was admirable.

Calling someone else a bozo for arguing nuance from the king of nuance.

“In 2016 we were getting into the Big 12, until we weren’t.”

03-lmfao

Yes, they were discussing expansion, but didn't identify any potential additions. Keep up the good work. 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

Better than telling everyone some BS about getting us getting in in 2016 until we don’t.

I’ll go out on a Canadian limb here:

The Tigers will be in an expanded Big 12.

The Tigers will be in expanded AAC.

The Tigers will be in a depleted AAC.

The Big 12 will merge with the MWC and the Tigers will be in an unchanged AAC.

That’s what my “sources” tell me.
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(08-01-2021 04:55 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(08-01-2021 04:32 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-31-2021 11:00 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 01:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-30-2021 12:56 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  True-true-----but by the same token he could have said ..." I can see TXAM and others voting yes-whether they like it or not".......just sayin

A bozo with an IQ of 40 arguing nuance. Wrong again, but the the sheer ambition of the effort was admirable.

Calling someone else a bozo for arguing nuance from the king of nuance.

“In 2016 we were getting into the Big 12, until we weren’t.”

03-lmfao

Yes, they were discussing expansion, but didn't identify any potential additions. Keep up the good work. 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

Better than telling everyone some BS about getting us getting in in 2016 until we don’t.

I’ll go out on a Canadian limb here:

The Tigers will be in an expanded Big 12.

The Tigers will be in expanded AAC.

The Tigers will be in a depleted AAC.

The Big 12 will merge with the MWC and the Tigers will be in an unchanged AAC.

That’s what my “sources” tell me.

Quote:3rdgenerationtiger wrote: They had meetings over the course of 4 months about expanding the conference zero schools. That's what my sources tell me.

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Not knowing anything insidery, but reading between the lines of Memphis' response to the previous Big 12 expansion talk (not including ourselves in the list of 28 teams vying for Big 12 membership) and all the other discussion, I assume that we were very much in the mix. I assume that we were attached to Cincy (probably) and had gone through months of negotiations behind the scenes, much like OU and UT have done recently with the SEC.

I'm guessing that we were close to finalizing something that certain people at UT didn't like concerning us and they leaked it (maybe to Houston folks). Once the larger UT community got involved, public opinion killed it.

That's what A&M tried to do 2 weeks ago, but it was too late.
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(07-28-2021 12:06 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  
(07-28-2021 11:49 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 08:50 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 07:57 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I don't know why most seem fixated on going crazy adding a bunch of schools. It makes no sense on any level. Go to 12, lock in a good contract, and sign a GOR until 2035.

Screw Boise, San Diego State, BYU and I everyone else in the middle of nowhere.

I agree with you in principle but most are predicting super conferences and the SEC move is the first in that direction.

It’s bad enough to be in a non P5, if you’re in a non P5 small conference while everyone else is a member of a super conference you are really going to come in on the short end of TV contract $.

We’re heading towards the US steel era of college football conferences.

Boise, San Diego State and BYU are not going to any P5 conference. They will always be available if the new Big 12 wants them or if anyone leaves. Let's see what the PAC12 and ACC do. IF there are going to be super conferences, then we are going to end up in the ACC. Maybe the Big Ten and PAC 12 will be stupid enough to want Kansas, Iowa State or Georgia Tech. The ACC sure isn't going to want Texas Tech, Kansas State, Baylor or TCU.

There is no point watering down the league with dead weight in the middle of nowhere. Aside from San Diego State, there is also ZERO recruiting at those schools.

Why do you think the ACC wants Memphis? I haven’t see any indications of that elsewhere. Just asking an honest question.

There have been a couple of national tweets along these lines. Also Ike has been saying it for awhile now, so...
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RE: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC. What does it mean for Memphis?
(07-25-2021 12:28 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote:  New SEC
Arkansas
LSU
Miss St
Missouri
Ole Miss
Ou
Texas
Tamu

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vandy


Notre Dame stays their independent self

New BIG

Iowa St
Kansas
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
Michigan St.
Nebraska

Penn St.
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Maryland
Illinios
Rutgers

New ACC

Miami
Florida St
Clemson
Wake Forrest
Georgia Tech
Memphis
Cincy
Louisville


Virginia
Va Tech
West Virginia
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Syracuse
BC or UCF

(What to do with Boston College????? Back to the Big East????? Or eliminate UCF due to redundant geography and Place

New Pac 12
Arizona
Arizona St.
UCLA
USC
Stanford
Cal
Nevada
???????

Oregon
Oregon St
Washington
Washington St.
Utah
Colorado
BYU
Boise St.

Four 16 team conferences
Plus Notre Dame

65 team super conference.

Which current P5 teams did you leave out? There are already 65 P5 teams in place in the 5 conferences. So to "promote" Memphis, Cincy, BYU, Boise, etc., you must have "demoted" some existing P5s.
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(07-26-2021 02:10 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Also, it's not a coincidence that the Houston Chronicle is breaking every Big 12 story including the original report that got all of this started.

The Houston Chronicle is breaking the news because TAMU was leaking the stories to them. This has nothing to do with UH or Texas politics - or even better, what the B12 will do next.
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(07-29-2021 07:24 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  I kinda feel sorry for Tennessee.
They won't be the only UT in the SEC anymore...

Don't go soft.
Never feel sorry for UTK.
(BTW, we were ahead of the curve on tagging UTK with the label here. They will need it going forward.)
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I am still waiting on the next episode of TBP's biography.
Previously on, "The Life and Times of TB Pickens"...
Toni - who we thought was TBP's widow - was in fact dead herself.
But wait! She's not dead, but divorced.
Tune in to find out...Do the offspring ruin the family business and fortune? Are there even really any offspring?
My, how the wheels turn.
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