Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

(07-26-2021 08:06 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 04:28 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 02:10 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Also, it's not a coincidence that the Houston Chronicle is breaking every Big 12 story including the original report that got all of this started.

Why is your rep negative 52?

Only the biggest douchebag trolls on the entire site get those.

Your fellow Memphis fans get their feelings hurt really easily.

Sorry clown, but I looked and a ton of those negative reps are not from Memphis fans.

You are obviously an epic douchebag troll and nearly the entire site is full agreement on that.

(07-26-2021 08:21 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

HEY NOW---Ike says, the streets say, we have a shot @ the BIG and ACC

From the KState perspective. Go to the 3:00 mark. You'll enjoy this Stammers.

(07-26-2021 08:55 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  From the KState perspective. Go to the 3:00 mark. You'll enjoy this Stammers.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas-sta...168313169/

(07-26-2021 08:55 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  From the KState perspective. Go to the 3:00 mark. You'll enjoy this Stammers.

This guy makes a LOT of sense. I appreciate you sharing.

(07-26-2021 09:19 PM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:55 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  From the KState perspective. Go to the 3:00 mark. You'll enjoy this Stammers.

This guy makes a LOT of sense. I appreciate you sharing.

This is the best scenario for Memphis and most of the teams in the ACC and the B12.

Its not going to be the $$$ of the SEC and B10, but its still a lot of money and likely the best all of us can shoot for at the moment.

None of the remaining schools really generate enough $$$ to make a big difference in any conference, at least enough to want to split the pie up more.

So we have to band together and get as much as we can to stay on the map, even if its the smaller cut.

(07-25-2021 12:44 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(07-24-2021 10:38 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-24-2021 08:09 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(07-24-2021 04:35 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If you recall the Tigers were a BCS team for ONE YEAR.

Then the BCS was revamped into the P5 with the Big East/AAC left out.

If UT and OU leave the BIG 12 then the P5 will become P4 and nothing the Tigers can do to keep from being left out again.

After the SEC goes to 16 then the PAC 12, B1G and ACC will soon follow.

WV is likely to move to the ACC giving them 15 teams.

Now comes the WILD CARD.

If ND decides to give up its independent status to follow the money they are legally bound to the ACC.

This gives the ACC 16 teams.

So we have the SEC and the ACC at 16 and the following BIG 12 teams remaining.

Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St and Oklahoma St.

None are able to carry the BIG 12 anbd keep their P5 status.

Now the BiG comes calling.

If they want to add football then they will likely go with OSU and ISU.

If they want to go basketball ball then they will likely go with Baylor and Kansas.

But that gives the B1G 16 teams.

This leaves the PAC 12 needing 4 teams to reach 16 to choose from among 7 schools.

Well, make that 6 teams.

T Boone Pickens is going to make sure that when the music stops OSU will be sitting at the big table.

The remaining BIG 12 teams and BYU and BSU.

So IF the P5 goes to the P4 then the table is already set all that is to be decided is which of the BIG 12 teams will go where.

The AAC is left out of the deal again.

If T Boone Pickens is gonna make sure then he'll be doing it from the grave.

He died on September 11, 2019

Believe me, Toni was no trophy wife. She will make sure Pickens's wishes for OSU are taken care of.

You forget that the Governor can veto the entire deal if he wants to.

Toni is dead too....
she got there before T Boone

(07-26-2021 02:10 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Also, it's not a coincidence that the Houston Chronicle is breaking every Big 12 story including the original report that got all of this started.

I love the arrogance as if the SEC, ACC, Big 12 and BIG are duking it out for Houston...

(07-27-2021 09:10 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 02:10 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Also, it's not a coincidence that the Houston Chronicle is breaking every Big 12 story including the original report that got all of this started.

I love the arrogance as if the SEC, ACC, Big 12 and BIG are duking it out for Houston...

Don't forget the PAC. You know UH had been developing a relationship with the PAC for sometime according to UH fans

(07-26-2021 08:21 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

I will explain to you exactly what the Big 12, the Texas schools, and especially the University of Texas, think of you.

NOBODY wanted you the first time expansion was discussed; especially the other Texas schools. Texas and the other Texas schools could have easily played the state politics card and strong armed at least 4 other members into voting Houston in. They didn't. The choice was Cincinnati and Memphis and at the end, possibly finding a 4th in addition to UCF. They couldn't stomach Houston and ended up caving in to ESPN.

This latest round actually started in 2019. At that time, assume that Texas knew it was going to leave. They could have expanded the conference as a gesture of goodwill to Houston. They didn't. They left Houston holding the bag, totally screwed.

Quote:The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons.

We won't go to the $EC because UT, Arkansuck, Ole Piss, MSU and Vandy all fear us; nothing more. Houston didn't go to the Big 12 because everyone hates them. They hate everything about the program, especially the fact that a rich restaurant owner is running the university.

Maybe things are different now, but that's the reality up to now. UConn thought they were going to the Big 12. Your fans are a slight tier less delusional than they are.

(07-27-2021 09:50 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:21 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

I will explain to you exactly what the Big 12, the Texas schools, and especially the University of Texas, think of you.

NOBODY wanted you the first time expansion was discussed; especially the other Texas schools. Texas and the other Texas schools could have easily played the state politics card and strong armed at least 4 other members into voting Houston in. They didn't. The choice was Cincinnati and Memphis and at the end, possibly finding a 4th in addition to UCF. They couldn't stomach Houston and ended up caving in to ESPN.

This latest round actually started in 2019. At that time, assume that Texas knew it was going to leave. They could have expanded the conference as a gesture of goodwill to Houston. They didn't. They left Houston holding the bag, totally screwed.

Quote:The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons.

We won't go to the $EC because UT, Arkansuck, Ole Piss, MSU and Vandy all fear us; nothing more. Houston didn't go to the Big 12 because everyone hates them. They hate everything about the program, especially the fact that a rich restaurant owner is running the university.

Maybe things are different now, but that's the reality up to now. UConn thought they were going to the Big 12. Your fans are a slight tier less delusional than they are.

Apparently they were in the discussion last week.

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/

(07-27-2021 10:12 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 09:50 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:21 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

I will explain to you exactly what the Big 12, the Texas schools, and especially the University of Texas, think of you.

NOBODY wanted you the first time expansion was discussed; especially the other Texas schools. Texas and the other Texas schools could have easily played the state politics card and strong armed at least 4 other members into voting Houston in. They didn't. The choice was Cincinnati and Memphis and at the end, possibly finding a 4th in addition to UCF. They couldn't stomach Houston and ended up caving in to ESPN.

This latest round actually started in 2019. At that time, assume that Texas knew it was going to leave. They could have expanded the conference as a gesture of goodwill to Houston. They didn't. They left Houston holding the bag, totally screwed.

Quote:The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons.

We won't go to the $EC because UT, Arkansuck, Ole Piss, MSU and Vandy all fear us; nothing more. Houston didn't go to the Big 12 because everyone hates them. They hate everything about the program, especially the fact that a rich restaurant owner is running the university.

Maybe things are different now, but that's the reality up to now. UConn thought they were going to the Big 12. Your fans are a slight tier less delusional than they are.

Apparently they were in the discussion last week.

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/

The least likely options would be to add BYU and to add 3 schools. We aren't talked about because our guys keep a lid on it. If they add 4, it should be Cincinnati, us, UCF and Houston.

(07-27-2021 10:25 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 10:12 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 09:50 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:21 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

I will explain to you exactly what the Big 12, the Texas schools, and especially the University of Texas, think of you.

NOBODY wanted you the first time expansion was discussed; especially the other Texas schools. Texas and the other Texas schools could have easily played the state politics card and strong armed at least 4 other members into voting Houston in. They didn't. The choice was Cincinnati and Memphis and at the end, possibly finding a 4th in addition to UCF. They couldn't stomach Houston and ended up caving in to ESPN.

This latest round actually started in 2019. At that time, assume that Texas knew it was going to leave. They could have expanded the conference as a gesture of goodwill to Houston. They didn't. They left Houston holding the bag, totally screwed.

Quote:The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons.

We won't go to the $EC because UT, Arkansuck, Ole Piss, MSU and Vandy all fear us; nothing more. Houston didn't go to the Big 12 because everyone hates them. They hate everything about the program, especially the fact that a rich restaurant owner is running the university.

Maybe things are different now, but that's the reality up to now. UConn thought they were going to the Big 12. Your fans are a slight tier less delusional than they are.

Apparently they were in the discussion last week.

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/

The least likely options would be to add BYU and to add 3 schools. We aren't talked about because our guys keep a lid on it. If they add 4, it should be Cincinnati, us, UCF and Houston.

I'm just praying it completely implodes and we pick up two or three.

Things are moving fast. OU/UT have requested membership in the SEC.

https://twitter.com/SEC/status/142003064...2-sec-move

I suspect this process will draw out for a while & probably will be dictated by the BIG10’s next move.

Do they maintain status quo, maybe add 1 or 2 B12 teams & run the real risk of failing behind the SEC.

Or do they make a big splash & try to keep their top payout & competition rankings.

I think their ego & money involved is too big for status quo & they go national. Assuming ND is off the board & stay independent, i think they go all the way to 18-20 teams coast to coast by adding teams like USC, Oregon, NC, Duke, & maybe more.

This would give them tv time slots on both coasts & be very attractive to the TV partners.

Plus it’s the only possible move that even comes close to matching SEC.

The remaining top ACC teams then have to decide do they try to get in SEC or make best of ACC, but ACC already at a tv revenue disadvantage & likely nothing other than beating B10 to national punch can stop that & I don’t think they have the influence that the B10 does to pull it off.

So after B10 & Sec become super conferences, then the remaining teams in B12, ACC, & PAC, & top G5 schools have to come together to see what works as the next best options to maximize TV $ with the understanding it won’t be on SEC or B10 levels.

Now if the SEC & B10 could/would kick out their lower “parasite “ schools they could maximize payouts per school…..but at that point it would hard to call them a school & not a semi pro/ developmental feeder league.

(07-27-2021 10:30 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 10:25 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 10:12 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 09:50 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-26-2021 08:21 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  Maybe Memphis gets chosen, maybe they don't. It's a coin flip. Too far away for the Pac, no chance in hell for The Big 10, The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons. ACC is also a no-go.


Big 12 is Memphis' best bet for sure.

I will explain to you exactly what the Big 12, the Texas schools, and especially the University of Texas, think of you.

NOBODY wanted you the first time expansion was discussed; especially the other Texas schools. Texas and the other Texas schools could have easily played the state politics card and strong armed at least 4 other members into voting Houston in. They didn't. The choice was Cincinnati and Memphis and at the end, possibly finding a 4th in addition to UCF. They couldn't stomach Houston and ended up caving in to ESPN.

This latest round actually started in 2019. At that time, assume that Texas knew it was going to leave. They could have expanded the conference as a gesture of goodwill to Houston. They didn't. They left Houston holding the bag, totally screwed.

Quote:The SEC, Memphis's natural geographic and cultural fit is a no-go for obvious reasons.

We won't go to the $EC because UT, Arkansuck, Ole Piss, MSU and Vandy all fear us; nothing more. Houston didn't go to the Big 12 because everyone hates them. They hate everything about the program, especially the fact that a rich restaurant owner is running the university.

Maybe things are different now, but that's the reality up to now. UConn thought they were going to the Big 12. Your fans are a slight tier less delusional than they are.

Apparently they were in the discussion last week.

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/

The least likely options would be to add BYU and to add 3 schools. We aren't talked about because our guys keep a lid on it. If they add 4, it should be Cincinnati, us, UCF and Houston.

I'm just praying it completely implodes and we pick up two or three.

For argument's sake, let's look at the worst case scenario; which is that we aren't in the top 4, and the top 4 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU and UCF. There are three scenarios that would screw us, with all being unlikely.

One, Texas and Oklahoma are the only programs that move. Two, the PAC 12 and leftovers from the Big 12 merge. All of the Big 12 leftovers find a home.

There are LOTS of scenarios that get us in...

- West Virginia and one other, most likely Cincinnati go to the ACC
- Kansas or Iowa State go to the Big Ten or the PAC 12
- Oklahoma State goes to the PAC 12, ACC or Big Ten
- If Oklahoma goes to the ACC, Cincinnati doesn't go with them, and it strengthens the Big 12 with us in it
- If West Virginia doesn't go to the ACC is makes the Big 12 stronger with us in it.
- Nobody wants BYU, which is exactly what was told to me; they are not seriously being considered for Big 12 expansion

My personal favourite would be for Iowa State and Kansas to leave. It actually helps football and reduces travel. West Virginia and any other school leaving would do the trick.

There isn't anything any of us can do except wait it out.

(07-27-2021 11:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 10:30 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 10:25 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 10:12 AM)BERT56 Wrote:  

(07-27-2021 09:50 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I will explain to you exactly what the Big 12, the Texas schools, and especially the University of Texas, think of you.

NOBODY wanted you the first time expansion was discussed; especially the other Texas schools. Texas and the other Texas schools could have easily played the state politics card and strong armed at least 4 other members into voting Houston in. They didn't. The choice was Cincinnati and Memphis and at the end, possibly finding a 4th in addition to UCF. They couldn't stomach Houston and ended up caving in to ESPN.

This latest round actually started in 2019. At that time, assume that Texas knew it was going to leave. They could have expanded the conference as a gesture of goodwill to Houston. They didn't. They left Houston holding the bag, totally screwed.


We won't go to the $EC because UT, Arkansuck, Ole Piss, MSU and Vandy all fear us; nothing more. Houston didn't go to the Big 12 because everyone hates them. They hate everything about the program, especially the fact that a rich restaurant owner is running the university.

Maybe things are different now, but that's the reality up to now. UConn thought they were going to the Big 12. Your fans are a slight tier less delusional than they are.

Apparently they were in the discussion last week.

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-12-dis...168334751/

The least likely options would be to add BYU and to add 3 schools. We aren't talked about because our guys keep a lid on it. If they add 4, it should be Cincinnati, us, UCF and Houston.

I'm just praying it completely implodes and we pick up two or three.

For argument's sake, let's look at the worst case scenario; which is that we aren't in the top 4, and the top 4 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU and UCF. There are three scenarios that would screw us, with all being unlikely.

One, Texas and Oklahoma are the only programs that move. Two, the PAC 12 and leftovers from the Big 12 merge. All of the Big 12 leftovers find a home.

There are LOTS of scenarios that get us in...

- West Virginia and one other, most likely Cincinnati go to the ACC
- Kansas or Iowa State go to the Big Ten or the PAC 12
- Oklahoma State goes to the PAC 12, ACC or Big Ten
- If Oklahoma goes to the ACC, Cincinnati doesn't go with them, and it strengthens the Big 12 with us in it
- If West Virginia doesn't go to the ACC is makes the Big 12 stronger with us in it.
- Nobody wants BYU, which is exactly what was told to me; they are not seriously being considered for Big 12 expansion

My personal favourite would be for Iowa State and Kansas to leave. It actually helps football and reduces travel. West Virginia and any other school leaving would do the trick.

There isn't anything any of us can do except wait it out.

BYU and Baylor probably won't get looks at the Pac due to their stance on LBQT. Not sure about TCU. I also just don't see the BIG taking Kansas or Iowa St. They do nothing to help their stance in Football, unless they took ISU and kicked out Rutgers or Maryland. Can't see that happening either. I could see Cincy possibly getting a look at the ACC or BIG but ultimately, I think we end up in a mashed up version of the Big12 or much stronger AAC.

That said, I've been known to be wrong...... a lot. LOL.

(07-27-2021 10:57 AM)hk25 Wrote:  I suspect this process will draw out for a while & probably will be dictated by the BIG10’s next move.

Do they maintain status quo, maybe add 1 or 2 B12 teams & run the real risk of failing behind the SEC.

Or do they make a big splash & try to keep their top payout & competition rankings.

I think their ego & money involved is too big for status quo & they go national. Assuming ND is off the board & stay independent, i think they go all the way to 18-20 teams coast to coast by adding teams like USC, Oregon, NC, Duke, & maybe more.

This would give them tv time slots on both coasts & be very attractive to the TV partners.

Plus it’s the only possible move that even comes close to matching SEC.

The remaining top ACC teams then have to decide do they try to get in SEC or make best of ACC, but ACC already at a tv revenue disadvantage & likely nothing other than beating B10 to national punch can stop that & I don’t think they have the influence that the B10 does to pull it off.

So after B10 & Sec become super conferences, then the remaining teams in B12, ACC, & PAC, & top G5 schools have to come together to see what works as the next best options to maximize TV $ with the understanding it won’t be on SEC or B10 levels.

Now if the SEC & B10 could/would kick out their lower “parasite “ schools they could maximize payouts per school…..but at that point it would hard to call them a school & not a semi pro/ developmental feeder league.

Parasite schools like Vandy and Northwestern; both at the top level academically. It's not happening.