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Let's go to the Big 12!
The door is now open.

The Houston Chronicle reporting that Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC may be announced in a few weeks.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
If that happens there wont be a big 12. There would be re-alignment amongst the Big 10, ACC, and PAC-10 to try and add value if possible. Whatever happens after that with the teams not in those conferences will amount to re-arranging deck chairs on a sinking ship.

The important thing to consider in this is that whatever power the NCAA had over college football is gone and the power conferences are the ones with all the power now.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
Yeah, this is where the power 4-5 break off from the rest of us. We go back to FCS.

Anyhow, we should be breaking down doors at those P5 HQ’s, trying to get out of this league to make sure that doesn’t happen.

Otherwise, this stadium and momentum we have was all for nothing.

I truly do believe the big 12 dies if those two leave. What are those other 8 schools gonna do?
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
Where do we want to end up in this? In my eyes CUSA was a decent try at let's put together mid major schools from decent tv markets and get some tv money, yet that idea has fiscally failed.

We've done the work lately to get a look at an upgrade from CUSA but realistically what do we want and how does that line up with what can we get.

One thing I definitely would like in any conference change is to get very good basketball mates and some of the mid-majors do offer this.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
I wonder if any of the B12 or ACC or any league would want a foot hold in BHam….you know putting their branding all over a new stadium that sits right outside the front office of the SEC. Would UAB be a project for those leagues compared to others they could add....sure but the TV market and being able to give the SEC the middle finger all year long has to be worth some points to them. Then again maybe not who knows
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
Once their are four “super leagues” they will have their own basketball tournament as well as soon as the current contracts are up.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
If UT and OU leave, the Big 12 is on life support. Prediction: Iowa State and Kansas to the Big Ten. The remainder of the Big XII poaches Cincinnati, Memphis, SMU, Houston, USF and UCF from the American. Then we finally get that AAC invite.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
You may see the Big 12/Pac 12 start talking merger or scheduling alliance if there is major movement.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 03:50 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  If that happens there wont be a big 12. There would be re-alignment amongst the Big 10, ACC, and PAC-10 to try and add value if possible. Whatever happens after that with the teams not in those conferences will amount to re-arranging deck chairs on a sinking ship.

The important thing to consider in this is that whatever power the NCAA had over college football is gone and the power conferences are the ones with all the power now.

Yeah, I'm afraid if Texas and OU go to the SEC that will start a doomsday cascade across college athletics. P5 becomes P4 with some current Big12 teams on the outside looking in as the new P4 officially splits from the rest of us and forms their own division and championship. All the rest of us then officially relegated to a separate tier.

P4 division with its own championship
G5 +Big12 leftover - separate division & championship
FCS - separate division and championship

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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
Maybe Sankey and others only backed an expanded CFP with G5 access because it ultimately won't matter when the CFP as we know it is terminated by a P4 split that sets up their own championship. 05-stirthepot
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
The governor of Texas may nix the whole thing. It would instantly devalue every other program in the state. Texas politics is very much tied to school identity.

It takes 3/4 of the SEC members to say yes. TAMU and Missouri are already a hard no. Georgia and Florida would probably be a no because adding those two teams would force Alabama and Auburn into the east.

If they pursue this the G5 schools have nothing else to lose. If they want to remain even remotely relevant they would be forced to sue
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
If true this is potentially bad news for UAB.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
I don’t think many would disagree with you. As said above, the top tier of the AAC that we long to play again, would get raided. I don’t care to play ECU, Temple, USF, SMU, Tulane, or Tulsa anymore than who were are already aligned with. None of those schools excite me more than playing La Tech, USM, WKU, and Marshall.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 07:30 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  If true this is potentially bad news for UAB.

I am not sure how it's bad news. The AAC has been in no rush to expand, this will create some movement. UAB is in the best position it has ever been in to take advantage of movement. If not now when?

Best Case | Big 12 Takes two from AAC/MW - AAC/MW Backfills from CUSA/SBELT/MAC

WORST CASE | B12 Dissolves... We are left with the teams we are already associated with.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 08:02 PM)BlazinBham Wrote:  I don’t think many would disagree with you. As said above, the top tier of the AAC that we long to play again, would get raided. I don’t care to play ECU, Temple, USF, SMU, Tulane, or Tulsa anymore than who were are already aligned with. None of those schools excite me more than playing La Tech, USM, WKU, and Marshall.

I agree.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 08:04 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 07:30 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  If true this is potentially bad news for UAB.

I am not sure how it's bad news. The AAC has been in no rush to expand, this will create some movement. UAB is in the best position it has ever been in to take advantage of movement. If not now when?

Best Case | Big 12 Takes two from AAC/MW - AAC/MW Backfills from CUSA/SBELT/MAC

WORST CASE | B12 Dissolves... We are left with the teams we are already associated with.

Like I have said before, I never thought UAB would get into the AAC in its current configuration. I don't know about you but I would rather be in a conference with Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Navy, and SMU than with those other members. That's not gonna happen if OU and Texas goes to the SEC.

The Big 12 is gonna get poached by the B1G and PAC 12 and whoever remains with the Big 12 will get some AAC teams to join to form the best of the rest. Could UAB be part of new Big 12? Maybe. But the AAC without the schools I mentioned above is an AAC not worth the hassle and money involved in going to that conference.
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Texas is actin'up! 03-lmfao
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 08:25 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 08:04 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 07:30 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  If true this is potentially bad news for UAB.

I am not sure how it's bad news. The AAC has been in no rush to expand, this will create some movement. UAB is in the best position it has ever been in to take advantage of movement. If not now when?

Best Case | Big 12 Takes two from AAC/MW - AAC/MW Backfills from CUSA/SBELT/MAC

WORST CASE | B12 Dissolves... We are left with the teams we are already associated with.

Like I have said before, I never thought UAB would get into the AAC in its current configuration. I don't know about you but I would rather be in a conference with Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Navy, and SMU than with those other members. That's not gonna happen if OU and Texas goes to the SEC.

The Big 12 is gonna get poached by the B1G and PAC 12 and whoever remains with the Big 12 will get some AAC teams to join to form the best of the rest. Could UAB be part of new Big 12? Maybe. But the AAC without the schools I mentioned above is an AAC not worth the hassle and money involved in going to that conference.

I Agree, if the schools you named leave, its not worth it.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 08:47 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 08:25 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 08:04 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 07:30 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  If true this is potentially bad news for UAB.

I am not sure how it's bad news. The AAC has been in no rush to expand, this will create some movement. UAB is in the best position it has ever been in to take advantage of movement. If not now when?

Best Case | Big 12 Takes two from AAC/MW - AAC/MW Backfills from CUSA/SBELT/MAC

WORST CASE | B12 Dissolves... We are left with the teams we are already associated with.

Like I have said before, I never thought UAB would get into the AAC in its current configuration. I don't know about you but I would rather be in a conference with Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Navy, and SMU than with those other members. That's not gonna happen if OU and Texas goes to the SEC.

The Big 12 is gonna get poached by the B1G and PAC 12 and whoever remains with the Big 12 will get some AAC teams to join to form the best of the rest. Could UAB be part of new Big 12? Maybe. But the AAC without the schools I mentioned above is an AAC not worth the hassle and money involved in going to that conference.

I Agree, if the schools you named leave, its not worth it.

I'll even throw out the scenario that if the AAC gets the remaining Big 12 schools to join them where does that leave UAB? There are going to be at least 5 Big 12 teams needing a new conference and 5 teams put the AAC at 16.

Again, I just don't think this is going to work out favorably for UAB but I hope I am wrong.
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RE: Let's go to the Big 12!
(07-21-2021 08:53 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 08:47 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 08:25 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 08:04 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(07-21-2021 07:30 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  If true this is potentially bad news for UAB.

I am not sure how it's bad news. The AAC has been in no rush to expand, this will create some movement. UAB is in the best position it has ever been in to take advantage of movement. If not now when?

Best Case | Big 12 Takes two from AAC/MW - AAC/MW Backfills from CUSA/SBELT/MAC

WORST CASE | B12 Dissolves... We are left with the teams we are already associated with.

Like I have said before, I never thought UAB would get into the AAC in its current configuration. I don't know about you but I would rather be in a conference with Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Navy, and SMU than with those other members. That's not gonna happen if OU and Texas goes to the SEC.

The Big 12 is gonna get poached by the B1G and PAC 12 and whoever remains with the Big 12 will get some AAC teams to join to form the best of the rest. Could UAB be part of new Big 12? Maybe. But the AAC without the schools I mentioned above is an AAC not worth the hassle and money involved in going to that conference.

I Agree, if the schools you named leave, its not worth it.

I'll even throw out the scenario that if the AAC gets the remaining Big 12 schools to join them where does that leave UAB? There are going to be at least 5 Big 12 teams needing a new conference and 5 teams put the AAC at 16.

Again, I just don't think this is going to work out favorably for UAB but I hope I am wrong.
The reason I think it's a good thing is because worse case scenario is that we remain the same. Unless we have the airport meeting.
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