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No, Trump was kicking China's arse. Hence Covid.
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(09-05-2021 09:12 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(09-04-2021 11:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-04-2021 10:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Only a FOOL would believe China cares about climate change. But, then again one of the biggest fools in America is sitting in the White House.
And China is just laughing at us for the harm we are doing, or about to do, to our economy in pursuit of climate goals that are unattainable unless China is onboard.
I don’t think they are attainable even if China and India were to get on board……what are the climate alarmists looking for, 1/2 degree reduction??

I think we might be surprised just what we could attain if we started seriously focusing on what we can do with today's technology (and letting the needle move as technology improved) rather than mandating stupid-ass crap based on vaporware that will never happen.
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Climate change is nothing but vaporware to begin with.
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(07-20-2021 12:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  What the problem with China and its preoccupation with Taiwan and its threatening posture towards them is just words. THEY know that any war with Taiwan will also bring dire consequences to them. Taiwan is a formidable military power on its own and will do some damage to the Chicomms even if they lost, it can't afford to start a war just a propaganda battle. A war with Taiwan could also encourage some Chinese to take sides. Who knows, but it coulld get very interesting if a war would happen and the Chicomms know it.

I agree 100%.

China is all talk.
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(09-04-2021 10:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Only a FOOL would believe China cares about climate change. But, then again one of the biggest fools in America is sitting in the White House.

Serious question.


Say you made the effort to recycle daily. You collected separated your plastics, cans, and then one day you notice your neighbor just threw everything in the trash.

Would this make you change your ways?
09-08-2021 11:03 AM
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(09-08-2021 11:03 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-04-2021 10:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Only a FOOL would believe China cares about climate change. But, then again one of the biggest fools in America is sitting in the White House.

Serious question.


Say you made the effort to recycle daily. You collected separated your plastics, cans, and then one day you notice your neighbor just threw everything in the trash.

Would this make you change your ways?

Funny, you should ask because I am big on recycling and repurposing Diesel engine parts. I also recycle metals.

That being said here is a serious question for you. As I am recycling I’m using Varsol and other not so environmental user friendly cleaners because they are cheap and it maximizes my profit. I then dump the sludge into the nearby waterways or rivers. You on the other hand are doing the same thing but using expensive environmental friendly cleaners and paying for proper disposal of the sludge. Eventually you can longer do business because of government regulations but I am getting richer by the minute.

So, is your solution to cut off your nose to spite your face?

My example was China and the US.

No matter how conscious we are, we are only a small percentage of the world and newsflash folks living hand to mouth don’t care about climate change when they are starving.
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(09-08-2021 11:26 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  No matter how conscious we are, we are only a small percentage of the world and newsflash folks living hand to mouth don’t care about climate change when they are starving.

And this is the issue we need to address if we are going to make any serious inroads into climate change.

Environmentalism is always a rich person's game; when you are starving, you don't really give a damn about the temperature of the planet in 2121.
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(09-08-2021 11:26 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(09-08-2021 11:03 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(09-04-2021 10:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Only a FOOL would believe China cares about climate change. But, then again one of the biggest fools in America is sitting in the White House.

Serious question.


Say you made the effort to recycle daily. You collected separated your plastics, cans, and then one day you notice your neighbor just threw everything in the trash.

Would this make you change your ways?

Funny, you should ask because I am big on recycling and repurposing Diesel engine parts. I also recycle metals.

That being said here is a serious question for you. As I am recycling I’m using Varsol and other not so environmental user friendly cleaners because they are cheap and it maximizes my profit. I then dump the sludge into the nearby waterways or rivers. You on the other hand are doing the same thing but using expensive environmental friendly cleaners and paying for proper disposal of the sludge. Eventually you can longer do business because of government regulations but I am getting richer by the minute.

So, is your solution to cut off your nose to spite your face?

My example was China and the US.

No matter how conscious we are, we are only a small percentage of the world and newsflash folks living hand to mouth don’t care about climate change when they are starving.

So is this an answer to my question?

You would or would not change your ways?
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(09-05-2021 09:18 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(09-05-2021 09:12 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(09-04-2021 11:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-04-2021 10:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Only a FOOL would believe China cares about climate change. But, then again one of the biggest fools in America is sitting in the White House.

And China is just laughing at us for the harm we are doing, or about to do, to our economy in pursuit of climate goals that are unattainable unless China is onboard.

I don’t think they are attainable even if China and India were to get on board……what are the climate alarmists looking for, 1/2 degree reduction??

Of course not, and they know it. Climate change is just another money grab.

A climate change supporter (can't remember his name but he was European) a few years back accidentally said the quiet part out loud. He said climate change wasn't about the environment but that it was wealth re-distribution.
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(09-05-2021 09:44 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  No, Trump was kicking China's arse. Hence Covid.

So you're saying China created COVID to get back at Trump?
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China moves to ban all private news publishers that are not funded by the Communist Party in further crackdown on free speech


Quote:China has proposed banning all news organisations that are not directly funded by the Communist Party.

The new law, drafted by the National Development and Reform Commission, would ban any private investment in 'news gathering, editing, and broadcasting'.

It marks the ruling CCP's latest crackdown on private enterprise, after the country's booming tech sector and billionaire owners were hammered earlier this year.

Laws controlling who can fund news gathering have been in place since at least 2005, according to the South China Morning Post - one of the papers which could be affected by the change.

But the rules have generally only applied to physical papers and enforcement has been lax, allowing online outlets to proliferate with private investment.

The new law, which was drafted by the National Development and Reform Commission and is currently out for review, appears designed to close that loophole.

It is contained within a document called the Market Access Negative List, which outlines sectors where private investment - money that does not come directly from the state or state-owned companies - is prohibited or restricted.

Item six on the list amounts to a broad and near-total ban on private investment in all types of media - from news agencies, to radio and TV, and online content.

It would also ban private companies from live broadcasting anything to do with 'politics, economics, military, and foreign affairs, or major activities or incidents in society, culture, technology, health, education, and sports.'

Privately-owned media would also be banned from 'introducing news released by foreign entities' - suggesting that overseas outlets operating within China could also be caught up in the ban.

The ban would even affect 'summits and award shows' hosted by news publishers.

A retired lecturer at Shanxi University, who gave his name only as Luo, told Radio Free Asia that the Communist Party 'is making sure that it controls its message'.

'It wants a dominating voice to rule over everything. The message is very clear: don't mess with the media or try to do anything connected with it,' he said.

The move comes after the CCP also launched a crackdown on the country's tech sector - one of its largest and most-profitable.

In public, the party has insisted it is cracking down on wealth inequality, exploitation of workers, and anti-competitive practices.

But many believe President Xi Jinping has grown wary of the growing power of the billionaires who lead the industry, and wants to cut them down to size.

Jack Ma - formerly China's richest man and owner of the South China Morning Post - is widely thought to have been censured by the CCP after he publicly criticised the way the country's financial markets work.

The billionaire subsequently disappeared for five months without explanation, had his companies forcibly restructured, and was hit with billions in fines.

Others point out that the companies targeted in the CCP's crackdown have all raised money on foreign markets, suggesting Xi is trying to limit China's exposure to the influence of foreign money.

Ride-hailing firm Didi, China's equivalent of Uber, raised $4.4billon when it debuted in New York in July - but just days later was pulled from app stores in China and banned from accepting new users.

Two other firms - truck-hailing app Manbang and recruitment firm Kanzhun - also faced similar probes not long after floating in New York, devastating their value.
10-12-2021 09:25 AM
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(10-12-2021 09:25 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  China moves to ban all private news publishers that are not funded by the Communist Party in further crackdown on free speech


Quote:China has proposed banning all news organisations that are not directly funded by the Communist Party.

The new law, drafted by the Nationality Development and Reform Commission, would ban any private investment in 'news gathering, editing, and broadcasting'.

It marks the ruling CCP's latest crackdown on private enterprise, after the country's booming tech sector and billionaire owners were hammered earlier this year.

Laws controlling who can fund news gathering have been in place since at least 2005, according to the South China Morning Post - one of the papers which could be affected by the change.

But the rules have generally only applied to physical papers and enforcement has been lax, allowing online outlets to proliferate with private investment.

The new law, which was drafted by the National Development and Reform Commission and is currently out for review, appears designed to close that loophole.

It is contained within a document called the Market Access Negative List, which outlines sectors where private investment - money that does not come directly from the state or state-owned companies - is prohibited or restricted.

Item six on the list amounts to a broad and near-total ban on private investment in all types of media - from news agencies, to radio and TV, and online content.

It would also ban private companies from live broadcasting anything to do with 'politics, economics, military, and foreign affairs, or major activities or incidents in society, culture, technology, health, education, and sports.'

Privately-owned media would also be banned from 'introducing news released by foreign entities' - suggesting that overseas outlets operating within China could also be caught up in the ban.

The ban would even affect 'summits and award shows' hosted by news publishers.

A retired lecturer at Shanxi University, who gave his name only as Luo, told Radio Free Asia that the Communist Party 'is making sure that it controls its message'.

'It wants a dominating voice to rule over everything. The message is very clear: don't mess with the media or try to do anything connected with it,' he said.

The move comes after the CCP also launched a crackdown on the country's tech sector - one of its largest and most-profitable.

In public, the party has insisted it is cracking down on wealth inequality, exploitation of workers, and anti-competitive practices.

But many believe President Xi Jinping has grown wary of the growing power of the billionaires who lead the industry, and wants to cut them down to size.

Jack Ma - formerly China's richest man and owner of the South China Morning Post - is widely thought to have been censured by the CCP after he publicly criticised the way the country's financial markets work.

The billionaire subsequently disappeared for five months without explanation, had his companies forcibly restructured, and was hit with billions in fines.

Others point out that the companies targeted in the CCP's crackdown have all raised money on foreign markets, suggesting Xi is trying to limit China's exposure to the influence of foreign money.

Ride-hailing firm Didi, China's equivalent of Uber, raised $4.4billon when it debuted in New York in July - but just days later was pulled from app stores in China and banned from accepting new users.

Two other firms - truck-hailing app Manbang and recruitment firm Kanzhun - also faced similar probes not long after floating in New York, devastating their value.

Does this include the Washington Post and the New York Times?
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(10-12-2021 10:01 AM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  
(10-12-2021 09:25 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  China moves to ban all private news publishers that are not funded by the Communist Party in further crackdown on free speech


Quote:China has proposed banning all news organisations that are not directly funded by the Communist Party.

The new law, drafted by the Nationality Development and Reform Commission, would ban any private investment in 'news gathering, editing, and broadcasting'.

It marks the ruling CCP's latest crackdown on private enterprise, after the country's booming tech sector and billionaire owners were hammered earlier this year.

Laws controlling who can fund news gathering have been in place since at least 2005, according to the South China Morning Post - one of the papers which could be affected by the change.

But the rules have generally only applied to physical papers and enforcement has been lax, allowing online outlets to proliferate with private investment.

The new law, which was drafted by the National Development and Reform Commission and is currently out for review, appears designed to close that loophole.

It is contained within a document called the Market Access Negative List, which outlines sectors where private investment - money that does not come directly from the state or state-owned companies - is prohibited or restricted.

Item six on the list amounts to a broad and near-total ban on private investment in all types of media - from news agencies, to radio and TV, and online content.

It would also ban private companies from live broadcasting anything to do with 'politics, economics, military, and foreign affairs, or major activities or incidents in society, culture, technology, health, education, and sports.'

Privately-owned media would also be banned from 'introducing news released by foreign entities' - suggesting that overseas outlets operating within China could also be caught up in the ban.

The ban would even affect 'summits and award shows' hosted by news publishers.

A retired lecturer at Shanxi University, who gave his name only as Luo, told Radio Free Asia that the Communist Party 'is making sure that it controls its message'.

'It wants a dominating voice to rule over everything. The message is very clear: don't mess with the media or try to do anything connected with it,' he said.

The move comes after the CCP also launched a crackdown on the country's tech sector - one of its largest and most-profitable.

In public, the party has insisted it is cracking down on wealth inequality, exploitation of workers, and anti-competitive practices.

But many believe President Xi Jinping has grown wary of the growing power of the billionaires who lead the industry, and wants to cut them down to size.

Jack Ma - formerly China's richest man and owner of the South China Morning Post - is widely thought to have been censured by the CCP after he publicly criticised the way the country's financial markets work.

The billionaire subsequently disappeared for five months without explanation, had his companies forcibly restructured, and was hit with billions in fines.

Others point out that the companies targeted in the CCP's crackdown have all raised money on foreign markets, suggesting Xi is trying to limit China's exposure to the influence of foreign money.

Ride-hailing firm Didi, China's equivalent of Uber, raised $4.4billon when it debuted in New York in July - but just days later was pulled from app stores in China and banned from accepting new users.

Two other firms - truck-hailing app Manbang and recruitment firm Kanzhun - also faced similar probes not long after floating in New York, devastating their value.

Does this include the Washington Post and the New York Times?

Well played.
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China objects Indian VP visit to Arunachal Pradesh, says India created state ‘illegally’


Quote:In the midst of a simmering border dispute, China and India ratcheted up the rhetoric on Wednesday, trading barbs over competing territorial claims.

China objected to Vice President (VP) Venkaiah Naidu recent visit to Arunachal Pradesh on Wednesday, saying it is firmly opposed to the Indian leader’s visit because the state has never been recognised by China.

“China’s position on the boundary issue is consistent and clear. The Chinese government has never recognised the so-called Arunachal Pradesh established unilaterally and illegally by the Indian side and is firmly opposed to the Indian leader’s visit to the area concerned,” Zhao Lijian, a spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry in Beijing said.

On 9 October, Venkaiah Naidu addressed a special session of the Arunachal Pradesh state assembly, saying that the visible transformation of the northeast is clear evidence of a resurgence in the region’s pace of development, which had been neglected for decades.

Arindam Bagchi, a spokesperson for India’s Ministry of External Affairs, responded to a media query about Lijian’s remarks, saying: “We have noted the comments made today by the Chinese official spokesperson. We reject such comments. Arunachal Pradesh is an integral and inalienable part of India.”

He stated that Indian leaders travel to Arunachal Pradesh on a regular basis, just like they do to any other state in India. “Objecting to the visit of Indian leaders to a state of India does not stand to reason and understanding of Indian people,” he said.

India and China have been engaged in border dispute for the last 17 months.

Last week, India and China military talks to end border dispute failed.

“The meeting thus did not result in resolution of the remaining areas,” the Indian Army had said in a statement.

Since the border dispute, 13 rounds of India-China Corps Commander Level Meetings have taken place.
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(07-20-2021 04:26 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  
(07-20-2021 01:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I think we underestimate just how vital Taiwan has become to the world economy. Even the Demos and their mega-rich patrons like money. We have new vehicles and other things sitting and waiting for Taiwan to recover from the Covid Microchip backlog.

China wants to INTIMIDATE Taiwan back into China and haven't been able to because the US has guaranteed Taiwan's existence. China still fears a shooting war with the US and our Pacific allies because they won't win it. We can literally starve China's economy to death by sitting a fleet on the Straights of Malacca and turning every tanker to China back. China wants to "fear" Taiwan back into China with the US acquiescing due to disinterest.

I agree. What China wants from Taiwan they would destroy with an invasion. China is talking tough (and so is everyone else) because of who our current president is. These communist nations talk the talk but they rarely walk the walk because they don't want to die for their cause.

China wants to lean on their lap dog Chamberlain aka Biden to cede Taiwan to them without any conflict. So far there has not been the acquiescence from Biden on Taiwan which is greatly angering the Chinese.

I have a strong suspicion that Taiwan along with some help from others have some weapons that could do real damage and the Chinese know it. And, if by chance Japan joins the fray they have a history of destroying the Chinese.

Last summer China released a video and a statement saying they would NUKE Japan if they intervened. This would undoubtedly begin a large scale war involving the US. Personally I think it is a psychological scare tactic.

Video is in the article.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innov...b4c77629e1
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