(07-22-2021 09:31 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 03:19 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  Still, Kit-Kat's argument that Athens is noticeably closer to Columbus in travel time is saying you are making the Athens to Columbus run in something like 45 minutes, which is around 100mph. If you are averaging 100mph, you are in jeopardy to getting your license lifted ... and arguably you should get your license lifted, as you are driving with your coffin lid open and risking taking others with you.

Its 60 miles to I-270 in the Columbus suburbs and 45 miles to officially hit Central Ohio from Athens. That is just a fact Bruce its not that far.

Additionally Ohio has a branch campus in Lancaster and two in the Columbus metro in Pickerington and Dublin. It has a presence in Columbus unlike any other MAC school.

He's talking about time, not milage. The time it takes to drive 60 miles can vary drastically depending on the circumstances - road type (interstate vs. state highway vs. rural highway), construction/road condition, traffic, etc. It takes about 1 hour 15 minutes for me to drive 60 miles on state roads to reach Oxford after getting off I-74 in Indiana, my commute home yesterday took the same time going 25 miles on Chicagoland interstates.

Branch campuses in this context are pretty meaningless. Who the hell in the Cincinnati burbs cares about Miami athletics in Oxford specifically because we have campuses in Hamilton and Middletown (that also have minor athletic programs of their own)? No one, and it'll be even less for OU around Columbus with OSU in town.

(07-22-2021 09:31 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(07-22-2021 03:19 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 07:49 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  If you argue central Ohio starts northwest of Lancaster which it does then its 45 miles between Athens and Central Ohio. ...

You really don't want to be talking in terms of "more excitement" and then set out Newark or Granville as more exciting places to go than Athens.

Quote: While Athens is remote relative to the state it compensates to an extent by having highways to connect it to the urban centers of the state.

"Compensation" is the point. You are talking about compensations for relatively remote location as if they reverse rather than merely reduce the impact of the remote location.

(07-19-2021 03:14 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Getting from Oxford to Cincinnati is a pain in the arse. I've made the trip many times. It may be 40 miles but it takes about an hour to get from A to Z, sometimes worse if the weather stinks.

Still, Kit-Kat's argument that Athens is noticeably closer to Columbus in travel time is saying you are making the Athens to Columbus run in something like 45 minutes, which is around 100mph. If you are averaging 100mph, you are in jeopardy to getting your license lifted ... and arguably you should get your license lifted, as you are driving with your coffin lid open and risking taking others with you.

Its 60 miles to I-270 in the Columbus suburbs and 45 miles to officially hit Central Ohio from Athens. That is just a fact Bruce its not that far.

And they are irrelevant facts, because they have nothing to do with your argument about Ohio being more exciting "because there are expressways to Columbus". It's also quicker to get from Oxford to "southwestern Ohio" or to get from Oxford to "the Cincinnati outerbelt", but I never cited or even looked up those distances, because they are irrelevant.

Quote: Additionally Ohio has a branch campus in Lancaster and two in the Columbus metro in Pickerington and Dublin. It has a presence in Columbus unlike any other MAC school.

You are just finding facts and pretending they are relevant at this point.

(07-22-2021 10:52 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  He's talking about time, not milage.

I am indeed. The new expressways may have roughly equalized the time to get to the closest bigger city downtown (given that there isn't actually any "big city downtown" in Ohio) than when I went to HS band camp and my late brother went to college in Athens and I went to college in Oxford, but the idea that Ohio is appreciably more exciting for a potential recruit because the expressways make Ohio appreciably more convenient to a bigger city downtown is just silly.

They are both scenic, small college town campuses and if you can't sell recruits on the advantages of living in a scenic, small college town campus, you aren't going to bamboozle them with "but we are 3/4 of an hour from downtown Columbus as long as you can average 100mph enroute!"

In 1992, ABC aired Bowling Green's game at Ohio State regionally. This was a BFD for us. We were the first Ohio team to play Ohio State since the 1930s, and it had been many years since a major television network had aired a Falcon football game

During halftime, per tradition, ABC aired an ad from each university. Bowling Green's ad extolled BGSU strengths in a series of bullet points. The one I remember to this day was "Convenience!" As the word was spoken, video showed a smiling BGSU college student standing next to an I-75 sign post.

The ad horrified me. "Convenience?" I thought. "Since when is *convenience* a good criterion for choosing a university education?"

I still cringe at what my alma mater put on the air that day.

To its credit, Bowling Green's ads have gotten better. BGSU seems to understand now that if a university is good enough, people will come to you. They aren't selling breakfast sandwiches or gasoline. They are selling a university education.

It is in this light that I view all of Kit-Kat's posts about how easy it is these days to get from Athens to Columbus.