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RE: Next candidates for new (not renovated) FBS stadiums
I have never been there so I can’t speak from personal experience, but I’ve heard that the GT stadium isn’t experience isn’t the greatest. (Can anyone confirm?)

Would they be a candidate for a renovation/rebuild/move the NFL stadium?
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(07-17-2021 06:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I have never been there so I can’t speak from personal experience, but I’ve heard that the GT stadium isn’t experience isn’t the greatest. (Can anyone confirm?)

Assuming you're referring to Georgia Tech...

Grant Field aka Bobby Dodd Stadium is a college-only stadium- it's not competing with the big dome downtown. That may seem a little spartan in comparison, but given its urban location and its history (the third oldest active stadium behind Franklin Field and Harvard Stadium), it's fine.

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RE: Next candidates for new (not renovated) FBS stadiums
I'll go with one that isn't on here yet but should be.

Dix Stadium- Kent State

The 2nd worst stadium Ive ever been in, next to the Rubber Bowl in Akron. The stadium has very little character and most years ever fewer fans. Doyt Perry Stadium in Bowling Green isn't to far behind Dix Stadium though. On a whole though the entire MAC has some bad stadiums.
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RE: Next candidates for new (not renovated) FBS stadiums
Fun thread!

Rice is easily #1, but I will throw out a few others...

KU: Beautiful location and setting for a college stadium but the old girl needs to go and they should start fresh.

New Mexico: I think this school is playing with fire by not emphasizing football. The next round of realignment will see them getting left behind by Boise, CSU, AFA, UNLV, and SDSU. Maybe they are good with that though and are good with being a basketball school.

Louisiana: Similar to UNM without the basketball pedigree to fall back on. A new top tier G5 stadium in Lafayette could really take that program to the next level. I think they have a Boise/UCF type ceiling because of their fan support.





(07-17-2021 07:51 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 06:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I have never been there so I can’t speak from personal experience, but I’ve heard that the GT stadium isn’t experience isn’t the greatest. (Can anyone confirm?)

Assuming you're referring to Georgia Tech...

Grant Field aka Bobby Dodd Stadium is a college-only stadium- it's not competing with the big dome downtown. That may seem a little spartan in comparison, but given its urban location and its history (the third oldest active stadium behind Franklin Field and Harvard Stadium), it's fine.

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RE: Next candidates for new (not renovated) FBS stadiums
(07-17-2021 01:06 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  The list of unrenovated stadiums at least 20 years old is a small one:

Rice Stadium (1950)
Falcon Stadium, USAFA (1962, but doesn't need major change)
Perry Stadium, Bowling Green (1966)
Alamodome, UTSA (1993, but not UTSA's decision)
UB Stadium, Buffalo (1993)
Ford Stadium, SMU (2001)

Buffalo needs to at some point, since all they did in 97-98 was to add enough seating and sell just enough tickets to go FBS.
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I'm gonna put USF on the list since while Raymond James has been good for them, you are still several miles off campus playing in the Bucs stadium and only opening the upper deck for the occasional major P5 school.
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(07-17-2021 11:40 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 10:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Wonder if UTSA will ever want their own facility?

They really need to. The Alamodome is sterile and generic as can be. The AC is nice though.

There are plans for it, but the timeframe is a bit out there. If HEB or USAA wants to put up significant money in naming rights, then you might see it happen sooner.
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(07-17-2021 09:32 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 11:40 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 10:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Wonder if UTSA will ever want their own facility?

They really need to. The Alamodome is sterile and generic as can be. The AC is nice though.

There are plans for it, but the timeframe is a bit out there. If HEB or USAA wants to put up significant money in naming rights, then you might see it happen sooner.

Move the AlamoDome to Fargo and the NDSU fans would make it a top 10 destination. Fans make the atmosphere and a new stadium at UTSA won't fix a dead building and unfortunately, an indoor stadium only makes the situation worse. For further reference see UNT, SMU, and Texas State
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(07-17-2021 09:25 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 01:06 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  The list of unrenovated stadiums at least 20 years old is a small one:

Rice Stadium (1950)
Falcon Stadium, USAFA (1962, but doesn't need major change)
Perry Stadium, Bowling Green (1966)
Alamodome, UTSA (1993, but not UTSA's decision)
UB Stadium, Buffalo (1993)
Ford Stadium, SMU (2001)

Buffalo needs to at some point, since all they did in 97-98 was to add enough seating and sell just enough tickets to go FBS.

If there’s a stadium with seats further from the field, I’ve yet to see it:

[Image: stadium_2016.jpg]
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(07-17-2021 09:59 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 09:25 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 01:06 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  The list of unrenovated stadiums at least 20 years old is a small one:

Rice Stadium (1950)
Falcon Stadium, USAFA (1962, but doesn't need major change)
Perry Stadium, Bowling Green (1966)
Alamodome, UTSA (1993, but not UTSA's decision)
UB Stadium, Buffalo (1993)
Ford Stadium, SMU (2001)

Buffalo needs to at some point, since all they did in 97-98 was to add enough seating and sell just enough tickets to go FBS.

If there’s a stadium with seats further from the field, I’ve yet to see it:

[Image: stadium_2016.jpg]

Eastern.... might be just as far.
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(07-17-2021 06:39 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 06:35 PM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 12:51 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Maybe converting the Phillies stadium to football is an option although it would be inconvenient for the grounds crew.

And unpleasant for the fans. Baseball stadium geometry offers bad sight lines for football. Hate going to see football at Yankee Stadium, for example. I think Penn, which you pointed out, is an interesting idea, should Temple ever need options.

MLB teams hate screwing up the field for Sep/Oct. That’s why Northwestern Wrigley games are in November. No MLB team will agree to college football permanently anymore.

I'll never forget watching that Wrigley game that Northwestern did where there was a foot in space behind one end zone so both teams went the same direction on offense.

Same principle also applies in April as well. Milwaukee would be a great city for a startup league team if they could use Miller Park, no way that would fly with those seasons running into April.
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(07-17-2021 04:05 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 02:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  How about posting some pictures of the stadiums you believe need attention. It would be easier to identify/debate the needs.

The only one in serious need is Rice Stadium, but until Rice decides what kind of program they are building, stadium design should follow.

FWIW, it's a great stadium, but crowds of 15,000 are dwarfed by the sheer size of the place, even after they took out seating on one end zone.

[Image: 20180827_rice_stadium_sunrise_martin_3.jpg]

Rice has perhaps the best stadium for sight lines in college football. It’s a great stadium. They’ve already reduced capacity from 70 k to about 45. The only thing they need is to improve concessions.
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(07-17-2021 11:57 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 10:38 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Which schools that are not already on schedule to have new stadiums (i.e., Hawaii and San Diego State) are most in need of a new stadium?

Coming to mind off the top of my head, I'm thinking Rice, Temple, and maybe ULM.

Rice because it is just way too big, and Texas, Texas A&M, and Arkansas aren't coming back to Rice on a regular basis to help fill it up anytime soon. College football stadiums are typically built to last 50-100 years (sometimes even longer) and I don't see how Rice Stadium will still be viable going 10-20 years into the future.

Temple because financially, long term, it might be better to take the financing of a stadium of it's own than to pay the Eagles ever increasing rent indefinitely.

ULM, maybe, because it is so dated, although Malone Stadium might be able to be renovated.

There very well are others, but those are the ones that immediately come to mind.

There might be reasons why Temple would want it’s own stadium and could potentially make financial sense, but it’s doubtful that it would ever be because it’s cheaper than renting from the Eagles. Building in a dense major city like Philly is a totally different exercise compared smaller cities or even less dense large cities. No matter what the Eagles might charge for rent, the cost of building a new stadium from scratch in Philly plus maintaining it 365 days per year would be massive by comparison.

I think this is the calculus for not building. Enormous hoops to jump through, and expenses once in place.
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(07-17-2021 07:51 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 06:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I have never been there so I can’t speak from personal experience, but I’ve heard that the GT stadium isn’t experience isn’t the greatest. (Can anyone confirm?)

Assuming you're referring to Georgia Tech...

Grant Field aka Bobby Dodd Stadium is a college-only stadium- it's not competing with the big dome downtown. That may seem a little spartan in comparison, but given its urban location and its history (the third oldest active stadium behind Franklin Field and Harvard Stadium), it's fine.

https://ramblinwreck.com/georgia-tech-un...m-refresh/

Bobby Dodd needs a major rebuild of its stands, but GT won't do it.
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(07-18-2021 05:55 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 07:51 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  
(07-17-2021 06:54 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I have never been there so I can’t speak from personal experience, but I’ve heard that the GT stadium isn’t experience isn’t the greatest. (Can anyone confirm?)

Assuming you're referring to Georgia Tech...

Grant Field aka Bobby Dodd Stadium is a college-only stadium- it's not competing with the big dome downtown. That may seem a little spartan in comparison, but given its urban location and its history (the third oldest active stadium behind Franklin Field and Harvard Stadium), it's fine.

https://ramblinwreck.com/georgia-tech-un...m-refresh/

Bobby Dodd needs a major rebuild of its stands, but GT won't do it.
It’s one of those old stadiums with supports impeding sight lines so it’s pretty bad. But it does have history. Don’t know that they could fix the problems without tearing It down and starting over
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Reminds me of the Reds old Crosley Field
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(07-17-2021 09:59 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  If there’s a stadium with seats further from the field, I’ve yet to see it:

Oh, there's one...

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Vanderbilt needs a new football stadium but I would NOT want any future facility to be located anywhere other than the site of the present facility (as I enjoy how our football, basketball and baseball stadia "hug" each other).

It's a moot point because VU officials are not going to spend money on a new stadium (and I agree that they shouldn't). The current stadium will be upgraded (with only a few details having emerged). We Vandy fans are cautiously optimistic.
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(07-18-2021 09:58 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Vanderbilt needs a new football stadium but I would NOT want any future facility to be located anywhere other than the site of the present facility (as I enjoy how our football, basketball and baseball stadia "hug" each other).

It's a moot point because VU officials are not going to spend money on a new stadium (and I agree that they shouldn't). The current stadium will be upgraded (with only a few details having emerged). We Vandy fans are cautiously optimistic.

The Titans stadium is definitely an option as a temporary facility during teardown/rebuilding, but from Google Maps it looks like there's no room to build anything much larger than the current stadium with how tight of a fit it is. Why not build on the current parking lot and field across from the track complex?
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(07-17-2021 11:35 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I'm not really familiar with any schools in the OP, though it seems to me that Rice can probably accomplish their goals by removing the upper decks and replacing with a new press box/suite tower on one side. Who knows what the land situation around Temple's campus is, unless it's on or adjacent to campus it might not be worth it. ULM seems cash strapped so a renovation there is probably prudent as well.

Would UCLA ever build something on campus? USF seems to be a name that's floated out there for this topic. Topic was resolved recently for South Alabama, UNLV, and UAB at least.

I don't know if UCLA will ever have enough land to build a stadium. I guess they could knock down some of those dumpy Bel Air homes. lol Even their baseball stadium is off campus and very tiny. Named after someone pretty famous, but very rinky dink compared to the type of teams they produce.
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