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RE: The "WOKE" dog whistle
(07-21-2021 12:58 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
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(07-20-2021 11:57 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(07-20-2021 11:32 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I was being a little hyperbolic with the angelic comment. But the left and the right do the same things in different ways and to different audiences. They both have the same goal and that is to win the next election.

The right doesn’t divide people into little groups because they don’t really have different groups of people to divide. The demographics are different. You got a bunch of the same dude.

Where they do play the tribalism game is by spreading fear over how the other side is going to make them a victim. We got a comment in another thread here saying that the left wants a federal police force. Based on nothing. That’s the kinda stuff I’m talking about and it’s just one example. That’s why I’ve kinda left this board after a long time of posting. It’s right wing fear mongering and the good conversations are HARD to find.



That is flat out NOT TRUE and you know it.

The right has white, black, Hispanic, Latino, Asian, female, gay, trans, all types from across the entire American spectrum.

The right does not divide itself up into those groups because people on the right of all races, creeds, genders and every other type prefer to see themselves as AMERICANS first, as opposed to their little tribe first.

Don't lie to yourself about this point. What you said is NOT TRUE. Its a left wing talking point a the very core of left wing ideology.

The right technically does have those people, but they are pretty dang small (but growing) in number. It’s not exactly a rainbow. It’s getting better because back in 96 the Republicans/GOP Leaners were 96% white, you’ve made it to 81%.

As a side note, it’s amazing that minority votes were a very small number even back in the 90s.




Again that is just flat out not true. All you are doing is repeating the most well known left wing talking point of all.

Nearly half of the Latino and Hispanic voters are right wing, and 45% of the female vote is. Actually it goes further than that, the majority of Hispanics and Latinos are conservative in most areas. They typically vote conservative in their local elections.

When you play this little game of pretending the right are nearly all white males you scream from the hilltops that you buy into the most divisive and dishonest of all far left talk points.

You are simply not going to think that unless your worldview comes from race based identity politics. Its a classic dog whistle and a DEAD GIVEAWAY.

You probably grew up surrounded by that political ideology.

And I have talked to you enough to know that you are a fair minded, moral and thoughtful man. And I think you also have Christ in or very near your heart, and I think you know full well where my values and world view comes from (HIM).

The biggest problem on the left is that they have replaced God with their ideology. It is their whole world and when it is ridiculed or brought into question it’s like a personal attack upon them. It like most ideologies is fraught with misconceptions but that doesn’t get in the way of their zealous crazed extremists.
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(07-20-2021 09:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Ancient Rome gives us this example. What did they find in the bath houses at Pompeii? Surely if you are world traveler you see what decadent folks do to society.

I do recall walking through an ancient brothel in the Pompeii ruins. 03-shhhh

Quote:The war was like every other war fought over money. I know you are self righteous and laden with guilt but these are facts. Did slavery and states rights play a large part? Yes. But, I promise you no one would send their son anywhere in battle to end slavery knowing he may not come home. You are idiot to believe otherwise. It’s a nice thought but mankind is not wired that way. China presently uses slave labor. Where is the US soldiers to go end it? Slaves? Yes too many sources to refute it.

There would have been no Iraq war if it wasn't for oil, and similarly no solider would have wanted to go fight over there if they knew it was for oil. But those leading the propaganda can brainwash them into thinking anything, like Sadam Hussein was working with Bin Laden. 03-lmfao

Fact of the matter is, without slavery, it's all but certain the Civil War would not have happened. Just like without oil, it's all but certain neither Iraq Wars would have happened. You can put lipstick on these pigs and call it "money" to try to hide from these facts, but reality is money is why we had slaves and oil to begin with. So you're not saying anything at all about the precise cause of the wars except sounding like you have an agenda to hide the truth.

Quote:Finally, only a very small percentage of people in South owned slaves. So why would they fight so hard to keep an institution that was no benefit to them? The people in my family that fought for the Confederacy were share croppers and owned land. They fought for their possessions they worked their whole life for fearing it would be taken away. Real life not your fantasy land.

(07-21-2021 12:04 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Slavery was part of the equation but was not the whole sum as you and others want to pretend as some righteous moral high ground.

Without slavery, there is no question the whole Confederate economy and way of life would collapse. So therefore, slave owner or not, they had a powerful motivation to fight. Whether it's for the economy, way of life, or whatever shade of lipstick you want to put on the pig, it all comes back to slavery.

The question is, why can't you own up to this? Are you ashamed of this truth somehow?

(07-20-2021 09:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Spokecrius being a world traveler and seeing so many places just qualified him as a "genuine White Supremacist". Only someone with a lot of dough...or his parents dough could have managed that. He is so Supremacist that the Supremes are jealous of him. How's it feel to be so guilty? Just don't suicide yourself from the guilt, okay?

The vast majority of wealth today is in the hands of passive investors who have nothing to do with what they invested in to gain such wealth. They just have the opportunity to save and the insight to invest, because they are aware that's how the game is played.

That's the difference between the have's and have-not's in today's world. The have's are those who had the means and insight to invest, and the have-not's are the workers.

I've made way more money in the market while sitting on my a$$ than I ever did as a "worker". And I started out flat broke. Zero inheritance from anyone. I simply was lucky enough to make a little money early in life running a successful small business for a few years to give me the "means" to invest, where I proceeded to make the real money while sitting on my a$$ the past 20 years.

Of course it's unfair, but you have Republicans to thank for this unfairness in society. They fight tooth and nail to double down on this unfairness until it falls in on itself.

In my opinion, every citizen from birth should own a small piece of a US sovereign wealth fund as a form of UBI, to take part in this huge wealth creation machine over time, and thus virtually eliminate need for government entitlements.

I think we'll eventually end up there through some kind of crypto system. Yes, it mixes capitalism with socialism, but that's what we need to compete with China. It's creates powerful productivity and efficiency.
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(07-21-2021 05:14 PM)scorpius Wrote:  
(07-20-2021 09:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Ancient Rome gives us this example. What did they find in the bath houses at Pompeii? Surely if you are world traveler you see what decadent folks do to society.

I do recall walking through an ancient brothel in the Pompeii ruins. 03-shhhh

Quote:The war was like every other war fought over money. I know you are self righteous and laden with guilt but these are facts. Did slavery and states rights play a large part? Yes. But, I promise you no one would send their son anywhere in battle to end slavery knowing he may not come home. You are idiot to believe otherwise. It’s a nice thought but mankind is not wired that way. China presently uses slave labor. Where is the US soldiers to go end it? Slaves? Yes too many sources to refute it.

There would have been no Iraq war if it wasn't for oil, and similarly no solider would have wanted to go fight over there if they knew it was for oil. But those leading the propaganda can brainwash them into thinking anything, like Sadam Hussein was working with Bin Laden. 03-lmfao

Fact of the matter is, without slavery, it's all but certain the Civil War would not have happened. Just like without oil, it's all but certain neither Iraq Wars would have happened. You can put lipstick on these pigs and call it "money" to try to hide from these facts, but reality is money is why we had slaves and oil to begin with. So you're not saying anything at all about the precise cause of the wars except sounding like you have an agenda to hide the truth.

Quote:Finally, only a very small percentage of people in South owned slaves. So why would they fight so hard to keep an institution that was no benefit to them? The people in my family that fought for the Confederacy were share croppers and owned land. They fought for their possessions they worked their whole life for fearing it would be taken away. Real life not your fantasy land.

(07-21-2021 12:04 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Slavery was part of the equation but was not the whole sum as you and others want to pretend as some righteous moral high ground.

Without slavery, there is no question the whole Confederate economy and way of life would collapse. So therefore, slave owner or not, they had a powerful motivation to fight. Whether it's for the economy, way of life, or whatever shade of lipstick you want to put on the pig, it all comes back to slavery.

The question is, why can't you own up to this? Are you ashamed of this truth somehow?

(07-20-2021 09:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Spokecrius being a world traveler and seeing so many places just qualified him as a "genuine White Supremacist". Only someone with a lot of dough...or his parents dough could have managed that. He is so Supremacist that the Supremes are jealous of him. How's it feel to be so guilty? Just don't suicide yourself from the guilt, okay?

The vast majority of wealth today is in the hands of passive investors who have nothing to do with what they invested in to gain such wealth. They just have the opportunity to save and the insight to invest, because they are aware that's how the game is played.

That's the difference between the have's and have-not's in today's world. The have's are those who had the means and insight to invest, and the have-not's are the workers.

I've made way more money in the market while sitting on my a$$ than I ever did as a "worker". And I started out flat broke. Zero inheritance from anyone. I simply was lucky enough to make a little money early in life running a successful small business for a few years to give me the "means" to invest, where I proceeded to make the real money while sitting on my a$$ the past 20 years.

Of course it's unfair, but you have Republicans to thank for this unfairness in society. They fight tooth and nail to double down on this unfairness until it falls in on itself.

In my opinion, every citizen from birth should own a small piece of a US sovereign wealth fund as a form of UBI, to take part in this huge wealth creation machine over time, and thus virtually eliminate need for government entitlements.

I think we'll eventually end up there through some kind of crypto system. Yes, it mixes capitalism with socialism, but that's what we need to compete with China. It's creates powerful productivity and efficiency.
Your a joke. How is President Buttcake doing these days?
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RE: The "WOKE" dog whistle
(07-21-2021 05:14 PM)scorpius Wrote:  
(07-20-2021 09:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Ancient Rome gives us this example. What did they find in the bath houses at Pompeii? Surely if you are world traveler you see what decadent folks do to society.

I do recall walking through an ancient brothel in the Pompeii ruins. 03-shhhh

Quote:The war was like every other war fought over money. I know you are self righteous and laden with guilt but these are facts. Did slavery and states rights play a large part? Yes. But, I promise you no one would send their son anywhere in battle to end slavery knowing he may not come home. You are idiot to believe otherwise. It’s a nice thought but mankind is not wired that way. China presently uses slave labor. Where is the US soldiers to go end it? Slaves? Yes too many sources to refute it.

There would have been no Iraq war if it wasn't for oil, and similarly no solider would have wanted to go fight over there if they knew it was for oil. But those leading the propaganda can brainwash them into thinking anything, like Sadam Hussein was working with Bin Laden. 03-lmfao

Fact of the matter is, without slavery, it's all but certain the Civil War would not have happened. Just like without oil, it's all but certain neither Iraq Wars would have happened. You can put lipstick on these pigs and call it "money" to try to hide from these facts, but reality is money is why we had slaves and oil to begin with. So you're not saying anything at all about the precise cause of the wars except sounding like you have an agenda to hide the truth.

Quote:Finally, only a very small percentage of people in South owned slaves. So why would they fight so hard to keep an institution that was no benefit to them? The people in my family that fought for the Confederacy were share croppers and owned land. They fought for their possessions they worked their whole life for fearing it would be taken away. Real life not your fantasy land.

(07-21-2021 12:04 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Slavery was part of the equation but was not the whole sum as you and others want to pretend as some righteous moral high ground.

Without slavery, there is no question the whole Confederate economy and way of life would collapse. So therefore, slave owner or not, they had a powerful motivation to fight. Whether it's for the economy, way of life, or whatever shade of lipstick you want to put on the pig, it all comes back to slavery.

The question is, why can't you own up to this? Are you ashamed of this truth somehow?

(07-20-2021 09:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Spokecrius being a world traveler and seeing so many places just qualified him as a "genuine White Supremacist". Only someone with a lot of dough...or his parents dough could have managed that. He is so Supremacist that the Supremes are jealous of him. How's it feel to be so guilty? Just don't suicide yourself from the guilt, okay?

The vast majority of wealth today is in the hands of passive investors who have nothing to do with what they invested in to gain such wealth. They just have the opportunity to save and the insight to invest, because they are aware that's how the game is played.

That's the difference between the have's and have-not's in today's world. The have's are those who had the means and insight to invest, and the have-not's are the workers.

I've made way more money in the market while sitting on my a$$ than I ever did as a "worker". And I started out flat broke. Zero inheritance from anyone. I simply was lucky enough to make a little money early in life running a successful small business for a few years to give me the "means" to invest, where I proceeded to make the real money while sitting on my a$$ the past 20 years.

Of course it's unfair, but you have Republicans to thank for this unfairness in society. They fight tooth and nail to double down on this unfairness until it falls in on itself.

In my opinion, every citizen from birth should own a small piece of a US sovereign wealth fund as a form of UBI, to take part in this huge wealth creation machine over time, and thus virtually eliminate need for government entitlements.

I think we'll eventually end up there through some kind of crypto system. Yes, it mixes capitalism with socialism, but that's what we need to compete with China. It's creates powerful productivity and efficiency.


Spoken like a true Marxist with a guilty conscience. Did ever occur to your very feeble mind that people get to where they are in life by making the right or wrong decisions. Not just one right or wrong but mulitple decisions to get where they are in life.

I believe if you ever had the sense as a child to read the story of THE LITTLE RED HEN it might give you insight as to why handouts DON'T WORK, WON'T WORK, HAVE NEVER WORKED.

At one point in your life you worked hard and smart and through luck you did well according to yourself. Now if truly believe what you are saying then you should immediately divest and parcel out all of your wealth to those less fortunate regardless of the decisions they have made in life. Otherwise you are no better than your hero Bernie Sanders who doesn't give a dime to charity of any kind.
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(07-21-2021 05:14 PM)scorpius Wrote:  
(07-20-2021 09:22 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Ancient Rome gives us this example. What did they find in the bath houses at Pompeii? Surely if you are world traveler you see what decadent folks do to society.

I do recall walking through an ancient brothel in the Pompeii ruins. 03-shhhh

Quote:The war was like every other war fought over money. I know you are self righteous and laden with guilt but these are facts. Did slavery and states rights play a large part? Yes. But, I promise you no one would send their son anywhere in battle to end slavery knowing he may not come home. You are idiot to believe otherwise. It’s a nice thought but mankind is not wired that way. China presently uses slave labor. Where is the US soldiers to go end it? Slaves? Yes too many sources to refute it.

There would have been no Iraq war if it wasn't for oil, and similarly no solider would have wanted to go fight over there if they knew it was for oil. But those leading the propaganda can brainwash them into thinking anything, like Sadam Hussein was working with Bin Laden. 03-lmfao

Fact of the matter is, without slavery, it's all but certain the Civil War would not have happened. Just like without oil, it's all but certain neither Iraq Wars would have happened. You can put lipstick on these pigs and call it "money" to try to hide from these facts, but reality is money is why we had slaves and oil to begin with. So you're not saying anything at all about the precise cause of the wars except sounding like you have an agenda to hide the truth.

Quote:Finally, only a very small percentage of people in South owned slaves. So why would they fight so hard to keep an institution that was no benefit to them? The people in my family that fought for the Confederacy were share croppers and owned land. They fought for their possessions they worked their whole life for fearing it would be taken away. Real life not your fantasy land.

(07-21-2021 12:04 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Slavery was part of the equation but was not the whole sum as you and others want to pretend as some righteous moral high ground.

Without slavery, there is no question the whole Confederate economy and way of life would collapse. So therefore, slave owner or not, they had a powerful motivation to fight. Whether it's for the economy, way of life, or whatever shade of lipstick you want to put on the pig, it all comes back to slavery.

The question is, why can't you own up to this? Are you ashamed of this truth somehow?

(07-20-2021 09:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Spokecrius being a world traveler and seeing so many places just qualified him as a "genuine White Supremacist". Only someone with a lot of dough...or his parents dough could have managed that. He is so Supremacist that the Supremes are jealous of him. How's it feel to be so guilty? Just don't suicide yourself from the guilt, okay?

The vast majority of wealth today is in the hands of passive investors who have nothing to do with what they invested in to gain such wealth. They just have the opportunity to save and the insight to invest, because they are aware that's how the game is played.

That's the difference between the have's and have-not's in today's world. The have's are those who had the means and insight to invest, and the have-not's are the workers.

I've made way more money in the market while sitting on my a$$ than I ever did as a "worker". And I started out flat broke. Zero inheritance from anyone. I simply was lucky enough to make a little money early in life running a successful small business for a few years to give me the "means" to invest, where I proceeded to make the real money while sitting on my a$$ the past 20 years.

Of course it's unfair, but you have Republicans to thank for this unfairness in society. They fight tooth and nail to double down on this unfairness until it falls in on itself.

In my opinion, every citizen from birth should own a small piece of a US sovereign wealth fund as a form of UBI, to take part in this huge wealth creation machine over time, and thus virtually eliminate need for government entitlements.

I think we'll eventually end up there through some kind of crypto system. Yes, it mixes capitalism with socialism, but that's what we need to compete with China. It's creates powerful productivity and efficiency.


Take another toke, have a blow for your nose…

You may be certifiably insane. So, for the last 20 years you haven’t really “worked”, but every other “worker” out here should be denied that same opportunity?
Is that not literally the American/capitalist dream?

Or are you just playin? It’s a form of nimby-ism.

I dun got mine 20 some years ago, so I’m good. So Ima lecture YOU, plebe, why you’re not allowed to do the same.

Lissen to me! I know what’s best for you! Forget what I did, you’re not capable, even though I was.

Let the benevolent Gubment take over your life and you’ll be much happier, like in Cuba, Venezuela, Honduras, Guatemala, even Brazil.

Trust me. I’m clearly better and smarter than you, I’m here to help.

You’re truly a parody of a caricature belonging in the Sunday funny papers.

Only you ain funny.

Sad.
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