(07-20-2021 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Win OOC games if you want the media to say nice things...a "two day party" wont get you there.

Only three schools in this conference is even close to .500 OOC since 2014 and that's Marshall, Tech and Western. The others are basically 1-2 OR 0-3 vs FBS each year on average

OOC record VS FBS for the CUSA champs 2020-2014. In Western's case the games vs Vandy and Indiana were chokes. Western had those games and let them slip away. Marshall won all of their OOC games but if you want respect...your conference champ cant just beat up on MAC schools .500 or under.

UAB
Miami L 14-31
ULL L 20-24
S. ALA W 42-10

FAU
SMU W 52-28
UCF L 14-48
Ohio St L 21-45
Ball State W 41-31

UAB
Tulane W 31-24
Northern Illinois W 37-13
Texas A&M L 20-41
Coastal Carolina (5-7) L 24-47

FAU
Navy L 19-42
Wisconsin L 14-31
Akron W 50-3
Buffalo L 31-34

Western
Memphis W 51-31
Miami (OH)W 31-24
Vanderbilt L 30-31
Bama L 10-38

Western
LSU L 20-48
Indiana L 35-38
Miami (OH) W 56-14
Vanderbilt W 14-12

Marshall
Northern Illinois w 52-23
Akron w 48-17
Ohio W 44-14
Miami (OH) W 42-27

Western is above .500 because it typically plays a weak OOC schedule.

(07-20-2021 01:03 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Win OOC games if you want the media to say nice things...a "two day party" wont get you there.

Only three schools in this conference is even close to .500 OOC since 2014 and that's Marshall, Tech and Western. The others are basically 1-2 OR 0-3 vs FBS each year on average

OOC record VS FBS for the CUSA champs 2020-2014. In Western's case the games vs Vandy and Indiana were chokes. Western had those games and let them slip away. Marshall won all of their OOC games but if you want respect...your conference champ cant just beat up on MAC schools .500 or under.

UAB
Miami L 14-31
ULL L 20-24
S. ALA W 42-10

FAU
SMU W 52-28
UCF L 14-48
Ohio St L 21-45
Ball State W 41-31

UAB
Tulane W 31-24
Northern Illinois W 37-13
Texas A&M L 20-41
Coastal Carolina (5-7) L 24-47

FAU
Navy L 19-42
Wisconsin L 14-31
Akron W 50-3
Buffalo L 31-34

Western
Memphis W 51-31
Miami (OH)W 31-24
Vanderbilt L 30-31
Bama L 10-38

Western
LSU L 20-48
Indiana L 35-38
Miami (OH) W 56-14
Vanderbilt W 14-12
South Florida W 45-28

Marshall
Northern Illinois w 52-23
Akron w 48-17
Ohio W 44-14
Miami (OH) W 42-27

Western is above .500 because it typically plays a weak OOC schedule.

You dont have a clue if you looked at the above and came away with that conclusion.

2014
Navy (8-5)
Army (4-8)
Big10 (6-7)
MAC (1st in east)
MAC (3rd overall)

2015/16 is above
Out of 9 games 5 vs SEC or Big 10
2 vs AAC
2 vs MAC


2017
1 VS Big10
1 vs SEC
1 vs SBC
1vs MAC

2018
1 vs Big10
1 vs ACC
1 vs MAC

2019
1 vs ACC
1 vs SEC
1 vs Army
1 vs MAC

Covid 2020
ACC
BYU
Liberty
SBC

29 total games
13 vs SEC/BIG10/ACC (8 went to bowl game)
2 vs top G5 for that year BYU/Liberty (both went to bowl both won 10 or more)
3 vs Navy/Army (2out 3went to bowl)
2 vs top tier AAC (both went bowl)
2 VS SBC (both bowl)
7 vs MAC (4 of those went to bowl)

Like I said you are a idiot if you believe what you said.

(edit) actually I didnt call you an idiot up above... I was thinking it. I did not say Western was above .500. I said "only Marshall, Tech and Western is above or close to .500. Western fell below .500 (14-15) in the covid year by going 0-4

WHAT? Memphis, Vanderbilt x 2, Bama, LSU, and Indiana over a two year stretch is a weak OOC schedule?!?!?!? Please tell us you are kidding.

(07-20-2021 01:44 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 01:03 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Win OOC games if you want the media to say nice things...a "two day party" wont get you there.

Only three schools in this conference is even close to .500 OOC since 2014 and that's Marshall, Tech and Western. The others are basically 1-2 OR 0-3 vs FBS each year on average

OOC record VS FBS for the CUSA champs 2020-2014. In Western's case the games vs Vandy and Indiana were chokes. Western had those games and let them slip away. Marshall won all of their OOC games but if you want respect...your conference champ cant just beat up on MAC schools .500 or under.

UAB
Miami L 14-31
ULL L 20-24
S. ALA W 42-10

FAU
SMU W 52-28
UCF L 14-48
Ohio St L 21-45
Ball State W 41-31

UAB
Tulane W 31-24
Northern Illinois W 37-13
Texas A&M L 20-41
Coastal Carolina (5-7) L 24-47

FAU
Navy L 19-42
Wisconsin L 14-31
Akron W 50-3
Buffalo L 31-34

Western
Memphis W 51-31
Miami (OH)W 31-24
Vanderbilt L 30-31
Bama L 10-38

Western
LSU L 20-48
Indiana L 35-38
Miami (OH) W 56-14
Vanderbilt W 14-12
South Florida W 45-28

Marshall
Northern Illinois w 52-23
Akron w 48-17
Ohio W 44-14
Miami (OH) W 42-27

Western is above .500 because it typically plays a weak OOC schedule.

You dont have a clue if you looked at the above and came away with that conclusion.

2014
Navy (8-5)
Army (4-8)
Big10 (6-7)
MAC (1st in east)
MAC (3rd overall)

2015/16 is above
Out of 9 games 5 vs SEC or Big 10
2 vs AAC
2 vs MAC


2017
1 VS Big10
1 vs SEC
1 vs SBC
1vs MAC

2018
1 vs Big10
1 vs ACC
1 vs MAC

2019
1 vs ACC
1 vs SEC
1 vs Army
1 vs MAC

Covid 2020
ACC
BYU
Liberty
SBC

29 total games
13 vs SEC/BIG10/ACC (8 went to bowl game)
2 vs top G5 for that year BYU/Liberty (both went to bowl both won 10 or more)
3 vs Navy/Army (2out 3went to bowl)
2 vs top tier AAC (both went bowl)
2 VS SBC (both bowl)
7 vs MAC (4 of those went to bowl)

Like I said you are a idiot if you believe what you said.

(edit) actually I didnt call you an idiot up above... I was thinking it. I did not say Western was above .500. I said "only Marshall, Tech and Western is above or close to .500. Western fell below .500 (14-15) in the covid year by going 0-4

Memphis, Miami (OH), Vanderbilt, South Florida, Indiana, Akron, Army, Navy, and Liberty? I'm supposed to be impressed? LSU and Alabama are the only two big time programs of all those you listed. Let's also not pretend that going to a bowl game these days is much of an accomplishment. It doesn't strengthen your argument as much as you'd like to think. Get a grip. Start playing some powerhouse programs with regularity, beat them, and then come tell us how great 'Western' is. Until then, get the hell outta here with your bull.

(07-19-2021 03:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-19-2021 01:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 05:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 04:57 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  A really short sighted decision. Is money the actual reason? If so the conference is in worse trouble than we thought. If we are the only FBS conference NOT to hold in person media days we will get roasted by other G5's, all media, recruiters,etc.. Three or four schools could drive to the event. Conference officials LIVE in the area. Are commercial (not 1st class) flights to Dallas that expensive???


I would sure like to know how our AD voted (WKU). It is LAME. SMALL-TIME.

If the vote was somewhat close this might be the beginning of the end of the conference in the current set-up. IF-- I say IF this story blows up big nationally in college sports media there may be permanent fallout.

Embarrassing.

Could this provide more impetus for stronger consideration of a conference breakup? Probably not-- BUT-- it is sure to be added to the list of grievances by schools who entertain thoughts. Of course they have nowhere to go. But they may try a little harder to brainstorm some alternative.

UNT is 24 miles from Frisco, and UNT is an official partner of the Dallas Cowboys. I have no doubt that Baker voted to hold an in person media event. I'd think the other Texas programs and LA Tech were in favor of an in person event too. If I had to guess, I'd bet the votes against it came from mostly eastern AD's.

Good point. Not to trash the eastern members, but their travel expenses are much more significant in this case. Everyone in the West, but UTEP, could have driven to this event, and then come right back home on the same night.

I think this underscores how financially strapped we are as a conference. It's pathetic. I hope each division splits from the other soon, and we make our own way as small, regional conferences. The only way we make it is by keeping travel minimal, and by selling tickets to games that fans care about.

If some of the eastern programs can't spare a few grand to send some coaches and players to Dallas (a very accessible major city), than those programs don't need to be playing in the FBS. Smaller regional conferences isn't the answer. Shaking off a few programs that are not committed to participating in C-USA is a much better solution. If C-USA was trimmed down to a 12 or 10 program conference, we would be more stable and competitive.

I doubt it has anything to do with money and more to do with a very Texas centric conference and a mostly reactive CUSA HQ. Maybe it's an "up yours" from the schools outside of Texas? Our "media" is flippin' Facebook for crying out loud LOL

(07-20-2021 12:26 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-19-2021 01:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 05:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 04:57 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  A really short sighted decision. Is money the actual reason? If so the conference is in worse trouble than we thought. If we are the only FBS conference NOT to hold in person media days we will get roasted by other G5's, all media, recruiters,etc.. Three or four schools could drive to the event. Conference officials LIVE in the area. Are commercial (not 1st class) flights to Dallas that expensive???


I would sure like to know how our AD voted (WKU). It is LAME. SMALL-TIME.

If the vote was somewhat close this might be the beginning of the end of the conference in the current set-up. IF-- I say IF this story blows up big nationally in college sports media there may be permanent fallout.

Embarrassing.

Could this provide more impetus for stronger consideration of a conference breakup? Probably not-- BUT-- it is sure to be added to the list of grievances by schools who entertain thoughts. Of course they have nowhere to go. But they may try a little harder to brainstorm some alternative.

UNT is 24 miles from Frisco, and UNT is an official partner of the Dallas Cowboys. I have no doubt that Baker voted to hold an in person media event. I'd think the other Texas programs and LA Tech were in favor of an in person event too. If I had to guess, I'd bet the votes against it came from mostly eastern AD's.

Good point. Not to trash the eastern members, but their travel expenses are much more significant in this case. Everyone in the West, but UTEP, could have driven to this event, and then come right back home on the same night.

I think this underscores how financially strapped we are as a conference. It's pathetic. I hope each division splits from the other soon, and we make our own way as small, regional conferences. The only way we make it is by keeping travel minimal, and by selling tickets to games that fans care about.

I don't think it's "expenses" at all. First, it's just NOT that expensive to travel to Dallas. Secondly, any investment in your football program --the one program that literally pays for all other sports at your school-- should and would be a prudent way to spend your money.

That said, there's nothing that says CUSA's "Media Day" had to be held in Dallas. It would probably be a good idea to move the event around every couple of years, just to generate excitement in far flung places like Charlotte, or Birmingham or Miami. Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with that.

(07-20-2021 08:43 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 01:44 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 01:03 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Win OOC games if you want the media to say nice things...a "two day party" wont get you there.

Only three schools in this conference is even close to .500 OOC since 2014 and that's Marshall, Tech and Western. The others are basically 1-2 OR 0-3 vs FBS each year on average

OOC record VS FBS for the CUSA champs 2020-2014. In Western's case the games vs Vandy and Indiana were chokes. Western had those games and let them slip away. Marshall won all of their OOC games but if you want respect...your conference champ cant just beat up on MAC schools .500 or under.

UAB
Miami L 14-31
ULL L 20-24
S. ALA W 42-10

FAU
SMU W 52-28
UCF L 14-48
Ohio St L 21-45
Ball State W 41-31

UAB
Tulane W 31-24
Northern Illinois W 37-13
Texas A&M L 20-41
Coastal Carolina (5-7) L 24-47

FAU
Navy L 19-42
Wisconsin L 14-31
Akron W 50-3
Buffalo L 31-34

Western
Memphis W 51-31
Miami (OH)W 31-24
Vanderbilt L 30-31
Bama L 10-38

Western
LSU L 20-48
Indiana L 35-38
Miami (OH) W 56-14
Vanderbilt W 14-12
South Florida W 45-28

Marshall
Northern Illinois w 52-23
Akron w 48-17
Ohio W 44-14
Miami (OH) W 42-27

Western is above .500 because it typically plays a weak OOC schedule.

You dont have a clue if you looked at the above and came away with that conclusion.

2014
Navy (8-5)
Army (4-8)
Big10 (6-7)
MAC (1st in east)
MAC (3rd overall)

2015/16 is above
Out of 9 games 5 vs SEC or Big 10
2 vs AAC
2 vs MAC


2017
1 VS Big10
1 vs SEC
1 vs SBC
1vs MAC

2018
1 vs Big10
1 vs ACC
1 vs MAC

2019
1 vs ACC
1 vs SEC
1 vs Army
1 vs MAC

Covid 2020
ACC
BYU
Liberty
SBC

29 total games
13 vs SEC/BIG10/ACC (8 went to bowl game)
2 vs top G5 for that year BYU/Liberty (both went to bowl both won 10 or more)
3 vs Navy/Army (2out 3went to bowl)
2 vs top tier AAC (both went bowl)
2 VS SBC (both bowl)
7 vs MAC (4 of those went to bowl)

Like I said you are a idiot if you believe what you said.

(edit) actually I didnt call you an idiot up above... I was thinking it. I did not say Western was above .500. I said "only Marshall, Tech and Western is above or close to .500. Western fell below .500 (14-15) in the covid year by going 0-4

Memphis, Miami (OH), Vanderbilt, South Florida, Indiana, Akron, Army, Navy, and Liberty? I'm supposed to be impressed? LSU and Alabama are the only two big time programs of all those you listed. Let's also not pretend that going to a bowl game these days is much of an accomplishment. It doesn't strengthen your argument as much as you'd like to think. Get a grip. Start playing some powerhouse programs with regularity, beat them, and then come tell us how great 'Western' is. Until then, get the hell outta here with your bull.

There you go, once more jumping into the deep end not knowing how to swim. No where did I say Western was great. Now pay attention so I dont have to repeat this.

The way you get attention from the media is to win games. OOC games. And with that I said "Marshall, Tech and Western are the only schools in CUSA that is close to .500 or over.

I dont care if you are impressed or not for G5 scheduling Western's schedule is damn good. Maybe Rice should try it because going 0-3 almost every year has to hurt. But hell even with Western's schedule, Rice would have still went 0 and forever. Let me clue you in on something if Bama and LSU is your metric for being "strong" and no other team but in their class. You are only going to play 5 to 8 schools. Once more you are a damn idiot.

Now go away little fly because you are a damn idiot if you think Western's OOC schedule is weak compared to other CUSA schools. Playing schools that went to a bowl means they won at least 6 games. I will put the amount Western played that went to a bowl game vs the other schools in CUSA and bet its top 3. Want to take it? I believe its 72% of the teams Western played OOC

(07-20-2021 10:19 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 08:43 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 01:44 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 01:03 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 12:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Win OOC games if you want the media to say nice things...a "two day party" wont get you there.

Only three schools in this conference is even close to .500 OOC since 2014 and that's Marshall, Tech and Western. The others are basically 1-2 OR 0-3 vs FBS each year on average

OOC record VS FBS for the CUSA champs 2020-2014. In Western's case the games vs Vandy and Indiana were chokes. Western had those games and let them slip away. Marshall won all of their OOC games but if you want respect...your conference champ cant just beat up on MAC schools .500 or under.

UAB
Miami L 14-31
ULL L 20-24
S. ALA W 42-10

FAU
SMU W 52-28
UCF L 14-48
Ohio St L 21-45
Ball State W 41-31

UAB
Tulane W 31-24
Northern Illinois W 37-13
Texas A&M L 20-41
Coastal Carolina (5-7) L 24-47

FAU
Navy L 19-42
Wisconsin L 14-31
Akron W 50-3
Buffalo L 31-34

Western
Memphis W 51-31
Miami (OH)W 31-24
Vanderbilt L 30-31
Bama L 10-38

Western
LSU L 20-48
Indiana L 35-38
Miami (OH) W 56-14
Vanderbilt W 14-12
South Florida W 45-28

Marshall
Northern Illinois w 52-23
Akron w 48-17
Ohio W 44-14
Miami (OH) W 42-27

Western is above .500 because it typically plays a weak OOC schedule.

You dont have a clue if you looked at the above and came away with that conclusion.

2014
Navy (8-5)
Army (4-8)
Big10 (6-7)
MAC (1st in east)
MAC (3rd overall)

2015/16 is above
Out of 9 games 5 vs SEC or Big 10
2 vs AAC
2 vs MAC


2017
1 VS Big10
1 vs SEC
1 vs SBC
1vs MAC

2018
1 vs Big10
1 vs ACC
1 vs MAC

2019
1 vs ACC
1 vs SEC
1 vs Army
1 vs MAC

Covid 2020
ACC
BYU
Liberty
SBC

29 total games
13 vs SEC/BIG10/ACC (8 went to bowl game)
2 vs top G5 for that year BYU/Liberty (both went to bowl both won 10 or more)
3 vs Navy/Army (2out 3went to bowl)
2 vs top tier AAC (both went bowl)
2 VS SBC (both bowl)
7 vs MAC (4 of those went to bowl)

Like I said you are a idiot if you believe what you said.

(edit) actually I didnt call you an idiot up above... I was thinking it. I did not say Western was above .500. I said "only Marshall, Tech and Western is above or close to .500. Western fell below .500 (14-15) in the covid year by going 0-4

Memphis, Miami (OH), Vanderbilt, South Florida, Indiana, Akron, Army, Navy, and Liberty? I'm supposed to be impressed? LSU and Alabama are the only two big time programs of all those you listed. Let's also not pretend that going to a bowl game these days is much of an accomplishment. It doesn't strengthen your argument as much as you'd like to think. Get a grip. Start playing some powerhouse programs with regularity, beat them, and then come tell us how great 'Western' is. Until then, get the hell outta here with your bull.

There you go, once more jumping into the deep end not knowing how to swim. No where did I say Western was great. Now pay attention so I dont have to repeat this.

The way you get attention from the media is to win games. OOC games. And with that I said "Marshall, Tech and Western are the only schools in CUSA that is close to .500 or over.

I dont care if you are impressed or not for G5 scheduling Western's schedule is damn good. Maybe Rice should try it because going 0-3 almost every year has to hurt. But hell even with Western's schedule, Rice would have still went 0 and forever.

Now go away little fly because you are a damn idiot if you think Western's OOC schedule is weak compared to other CUSA schools.

Western is weak, and it's schedule is weak. Play some real opponents. Take on some big boys. Get off the porch. Anyone in this conference who isn't scheduling two P5 opponents every year, isn't doing it's part in making CUSA more nationally visible. Just about anyone can go .500 against average competition. It's the victories against the perrineal top 25 schools that bring attention to a conference and a program. Look no further than what the Sunbelt did in week one last season. Get real. Use your brain for once. Nobody cares about WKU beating Akron, Liberty, and Tennessee Tech.

Guns, list WKU’s OOC bowl team opponents. Has to be top if not close in CUSA. Tech has to be close and recently perhaps Marshall. It if you include in conference bowl teams I don’t know how that pans out.

Ourland, who are u a fan of? Just curious. I’m not trying to start a pissing match, but their schedule could be much much weaker.

(07-20-2021 10:30 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Western is weak, and it's schedule is weak. Play some real opponents. Step up. Take on some big boys. Get off the porch and mix it up with some real competition.

I cut out all the quotes but I also edited the one post with the below

Quote:if you think Western's OOC schedule is weak compared to other CUSA schools. Playing schools that went to a bowl means they won at least 6 games. I will put the amount Western played that went to a bowl game vs the other schools in CUSA and bet its top 3 and top 3 winning% Want to take it? I believe its 72% of the teams Western played OOC

If you are so confident take the bet...loser does not post during football season. Shouldnt hurt you anyways. Rice's season is usually no longer in doubt after a game or two.

Now if all you got is drivel I'm through with you

(07-20-2021 10:35 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Ourland, who are u a fan of? Just curious. I’m not trying to start a pissing match, but their schedule could be much much weaker.

He says he's a rice fan or at least I think so. Rice plays a OOC schedule no team in CUSA should play. They have about 1 in 500,000 of coming out of OOC play with anything over 1 win in most years.

G5 OOC should be
1 vs a upper level P5 that will get you lots of ink if you pull the upset
1. middle to lower P5 that you have a chance to beat
1 top tier AAC or MWC
1 vs MAC for Western because its regional

When you have the chance you take the Army/Navy (before they moved to AAC) game. Its a great game for fans and a great trip for home fanes

(07-20-2021 10:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 10:35 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Ourland, who are u a fan of? Just curious. I’m not trying to start a pissing match, but their schedule could be much much weaker.

He says he's a rice fan or at least I think so. Rice plays a OOC schedule no team in CUSA should play. They have about 1 in 500,000 of coming out of OOC play with anything over 1 win in most years.

G5 OOC should be
1 vs a upper level P5 that will get you lots of ink if you pull the upset
1. middle to lower P5 that you have a chance to beat
1 top tier AAC or MWC
1 vs MAC for Western because its regional

When you have the chance you take the Army/Navy (before they moved to AAC) game. Its a great game for fans and a great trip for home fanes

Agree 100%. Thats why I was so pissed at covid20. We had Pitt and Boise at home…. We win those and I bet we don’t collapse

Every CUSA team should have an OOC format similar to this:

-away "money" game (1.5-2.0 million dollars) vs high level P5 school
-H/H or 2 for 1 vs a mid-low level P5 school
-H/H with a fellow G5'er
-Home creampuff game vs a "regional" FCS school who will bring fans.

Would love USM to have something like this:
-@ Texas (money game)
-H/H with Virginia or Mississippi State (or 2 for 1)
-H/H with Tulane, Memphis, or ECU
-vs. Jackson State (their fans travel in State)

(07-20-2021 09:24 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 12:26 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-19-2021 01:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 05:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 04:57 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  A really short sighted decision. Is money the actual reason? If so the conference is in worse trouble than we thought. If we are the only FBS conference NOT to hold in person media days we will get roasted by other G5's, all media, recruiters,etc.. Three or four schools could drive to the event. Conference officials LIVE in the area. Are commercial (not 1st class) flights to Dallas that expensive???


I would sure like to know how our AD voted (WKU). It is LAME. SMALL-TIME.

If the vote was somewhat close this might be the beginning of the end of the conference in the current set-up. IF-- I say IF this story blows up big nationally in college sports media there may be permanent fallout.

Embarrassing.

Could this provide more impetus for stronger consideration of a conference breakup? Probably not-- BUT-- it is sure to be added to the list of grievances by schools who entertain thoughts. Of course they have nowhere to go. But they may try a little harder to brainstorm some alternative.

UNT is 24 miles from Frisco, and UNT is an official partner of the Dallas Cowboys. I have no doubt that Baker voted to hold an in person media event. I'd think the other Texas programs and LA Tech were in favor of an in person event too. If I had to guess, I'd bet the votes against it came from mostly eastern AD's.

Good point. Not to trash the eastern members, but their travel expenses are much more significant in this case. Everyone in the West, but UTEP, could have driven to this event, and then come right back home on the same night.

I think this underscores how financially strapped we are as a conference. It's pathetic. I hope each division splits from the other soon, and we make our own way as small, regional conferences. The only way we make it is by keeping travel minimal, and by selling tickets to games that fans care about.

I don't think it's "expenses" at all. First, it's just NOT that expensive to travel to Dallas. Secondly, any investment in your football program --the one program that literally pays for all other sports at your school-- should and would be a prudent way to spend your money.

That said, there's nothing that says CUSA's "Media Day" had to be held in Dallas. It would probably be a good idea to move the event around every couple of years, just to generate excitement in far flung places like Charlotte, or Birmingham or Miami. Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with that.

clt offers to host next year.

(07-20-2021 09:22 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-19-2021 03:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-19-2021 01:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 05:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 04:57 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  A really short sighted decision. Is money the actual reason? If so the conference is in worse trouble than we thought. If we are the only FBS conference NOT to hold in person media days we will get roasted by other G5's, all media, recruiters,etc.. Three or four schools could drive to the event. Conference officials LIVE in the area. Are commercial (not 1st class) flights to Dallas that expensive???


I would sure like to know how our AD voted (WKU). It is LAME. SMALL-TIME.

If the vote was somewhat close this might be the beginning of the end of the conference in the current set-up. IF-- I say IF this story blows up big nationally in college sports media there may be permanent fallout.

Embarrassing.

Could this provide more impetus for stronger consideration of a conference breakup? Probably not-- BUT-- it is sure to be added to the list of grievances by schools who entertain thoughts. Of course they have nowhere to go. But they may try a little harder to brainstorm some alternative.

UNT is 24 miles from Frisco, and UNT is an official partner of the Dallas Cowboys. I have no doubt that Baker voted to hold an in person media event. I'd think the other Texas programs and LA Tech were in favor of an in person event too. If I had to guess, I'd bet the votes against it came from mostly eastern AD's.

Good point. Not to trash the eastern members, but their travel expenses are much more significant in this case. Everyone in the West, but UTEP, could have driven to this event, and then come right back home on the same night.

I think this underscores how financially strapped we are as a conference. It's pathetic. I hope each division splits from the other soon, and we make our own way as small, regional conferences. The only way we make it is by keeping travel minimal, and by selling tickets to games that fans care about.

If some of the eastern programs can't spare a few grand to send some coaches and players to Dallas (a very accessible major city), than those programs don't need to be playing in the FBS. Smaller regional conferences isn't the answer. Shaking off a few programs that are not committed to participating in C-USA is a much better solution. If C-USA was trimmed down to a 12 or 10 program conference, we would be more stable and competitive.

I doubt it has anything to do with money and more to do with a very Texas centric conference and a mostly reactive CUSA HQ. Maybe it's an "up yours" from the schools outside of Texas? Our "media" is flippin' Facebook for crying out loud LOL

I agree. It just isn't that big of an expense to send a few people to Dallas. I think it is a matter of some ADs and university presidents undermining the conference because they're discontent. Yes, C-USA is a Texas centric conference, but refusing to participate in promotional events isn't going to change that. I think it's foolish for the unhappy programs to engage in a cold war that they will lose.

(07-20-2021 10:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 10:35 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Ourland, who are u a fan of? Just curious. I’m not trying to start a pissing match, but their schedule could be much much weaker.

He says he's a rice fan or at least I think so. Rice plays a OOC schedule no team in CUSA should play. They have about 1 in 500,000 of coming out of OOC play with anything over 1 win in most years.

G5 OOC should be
1 vs a upper level P5 that will get you lots of ink if you pull the upset
1. middle to lower P5 that you have a chance to beat
1 top tier AAC or MWC
1 vs MAC for Western because its regional

When you have the chance you take the Army/Navy (before they moved to AAC) game. Its a great game for fans and a great trip for home fanes

Or schedule what you have to, to pay the bills.

How do we watch ? I haven't a clue

(07-19-2021 09:53 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(07-18-2021 08:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(07-17-2021 11:56 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  My cat would be a better commissioner.

This needs to be a completely new thread. You got a lotta potential with that premise…

That's my candidate

Coach Healy definitely expressed his frustration from the event not being in person. I don't know the inner workings of the conference but it would not surprise me if there are more issues rumbling beneath the surface. Didn't CUSA have the most games cancelled as a whole among all the FBS conferences?