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(07-12-2021 08:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-12-2021 08:07 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-12-2021 07:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  My guess is if state officials look hard enough, they can find a "job abandonment" or "failure to perform" state law that would allow for their replacement. Once these legislators see they might very well lose their elected offices---they'll hitch a ride on the back of tomato truck if thats what it takes to keep their power. After all---the only think a Democrat really cares about is having power over "the little people".

I would expect this to happen.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see something in the Texas Courts to compel these “ladies” to return to Austin and do their jobs.

The whole thing is ridiculous. The law requires a picture ID to vote, requires a person to have a reason to ask for an absentee ballot, and INCREASES the number of hours polls will be open for early voting. It also ends drive through voting (mainly because having multiple people in a care voting destroys the privacy of a secret ballot--subjecting voters to peer pressure). The idea this is racist or is some sort of "voter suppression" is little more than completely unsubstantiated propaganda narrative that literally falls apart once anyone reads the law.

That’s the exact law that was implemented here in Kentucky this session. Some whining from the urban inner city here in Louisville but that doesn’t get very far here.

Black candidates say they have to win the hoods and the hollers in Kentucky to defeat Rand Paul or Mitch McConnell. That’s not happening anytime soon…lol

Glad to see good God fearing conservatives in Texas willing to fight for their state. The liberals have targeted it for destruction and I’m glad to see that won’t be happening.
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What a bunch of losers
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They've done this before. 1979. https://lrl.texas.gov/whatsNew/client/in...iller-Bees

Surprised the Republicans didn't figure out a way around this. As Owl says, the evil party and the stupid party.
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Quote:As we reported earlier, the Texas Democrats have fled the state and flown to Washington, D.C. to prevent a vote on the election security bill, denying Republicans a quorum.

Now, this is a silly move which, as my colleague Bonchie noted earlier, they’re attempting a gambit they can’t ultimately win. It may be stopping a quorum on the election bill but it’s also blocking all the things that Democrats would want to push, which wouldn’t go over well with their constituents. They’re also playing this game in a state that knows better, that knows this bill isn’t anything like they want to paint it, so it’s going to come back to bite the Democrats as a group with independent voters as well.

But if you listen to what Kamala Harris and the Texas legislators are saying you would think that they were storming the beaches of Normandy. They think they’re heroes for perpetuating a vicious falsehood — that this bill in any way inhibits people’s right to vote.

Harris claimed that Democrats were “showing extraordinary courage and commitment.”



“I applaud them standing for the rights of all Americans and all Texans to express their voice through their vote, unencumbered,” Harris exclaimed. “I will say that they are leaders who are marching in the path that so many others before did, when they fought and many died for our right to vote.”

She’s actually comparing them to real civil rights activists? And the people who fought and died for that right? That’s just shameful and insulting to those people. Not one person is being denied the right to vote, and to suggest that’s what’s going on here is woefully dishonest. And how are these runaway babies standing for “expressing their voice through their vote” when they are literally not doing their job of voting?

One of those Texas Democrats, James Talarico, tooted his own horn and those of his colleagues.



Yes, it’s so much commitment to hop on a chartered plane with plenty of booze to not do your job. Quite the hardship. How can we all get that job? Yes, this doesn’t look at all like a vacation.



The problem of course is that the people of Texas are paying these characters to actually show up to work, and they’re failing to do that. Put up or shut up. State your case and if you can’t, then you failed and the Republicans rightly won. That’s how it works. But they know they’d lose and that’s the real problem here. They know their argument has no merit. So they want instead to pitch drama theater about the mean, bad Republicans when their problem is Texas doesn’t want their policies.

Remember these guys are from the same party arguing that the filibuster is bad and that people should bow to the will of the majority. Just not when they’re in the minority, apparently.

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Greg Abbott Hammers Democratic Lawmakers Fleeing To Texas To Block GOP Election Reforms


Quote:Dozens of state Democratic lawmakers fled Texas on Monday to break quorum and prevent the GOP-controlled State Legislature from passing election reforms.

At least 51 of 67 House lawmakers boarded chartered flights to Washington, D.C., to protest in support of the For The People Act, which would shift much authority over election processes from the states to the federal government. The walkout comes after Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced a special session of Congress to focus on legislative priorities such as election reforms that were blocked when Democrats broke quorum earlier this year.

“Today, Texas House Democrats stand united in our decision to break quorum and refuse to let the Republican-led legislature force through dangerous legislation that would trample on Texans’ freedom to vote,” Democratic leaders said in a joint statement, according to the Texas Tribune.

The Democrats had considered fleeing to West Virginia and Arizona to put pressure on Sens. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) and Joe Manchin (D-WV), who have expressed displeasure with the For The People Act. The Texas lawmakers eventually decided against that move, however, out of fear that each states’ GOP governor would help extradite them back to Texas.

Abbott released a statement Monday hammering the Democratic lawmakers from fleeing the legislature.

“Texas Democrats’ decision to break a quorum of the Texas Legislature and abandon the Texas State Capitol inflicts harm on the very Texans who elected them to serve. As they fly across the country on cushy private planes, they leave undone issues that can help their districts and our state,” Abbott said. “The Democrats must put aside partisan political games and get back to the job they were elected to do. Their constituents must not be denied these important resources simply because their elected representative refused to show up to work.”

Abbott announced the new special session, which can last no longer than 30 days, last week with a list of his priorities to accomplish.

“The 87th Legislative Session was a monumental success for the people of Texas, but we have unfinished business to ensure that Texas remains the most exceptional state in America,” Abbott said in a statement. “Two of my emergency items, along with other important legislation, did not make it to my desk during the regular session, and we have a responsibility to finish the job on behalf of all Texans. These Special Session priority items put the people of Texas first and will keep the Lone Star State on a path to prosperity. I look forward to working with my partners in the Legislature to pass this legislation as we build a brighter future for all who call Texas home.”

Last month, Abbott vetoed funding for the Texas State Legislature over the Democrats earlier walkout. As The Daily Wire reported:

Democrats in the Texas House walked off the floor of the House chamber last month, breaking quorum and stopping Republicans from passing election reforms, as well as a bail reform legislation that Abbott in particular wanted, according to The Texas Tribune. After the walk-out, Abbott vowed to defund the legislative branch for “abandon[ing] their responsibilities.”

“Texans don’t run from a legislative fight, and they don’t walk away from unfinished business,” Abbott said in a statement Friday. “Funding should not be provided for those who quit their job early, leaving their state with unfinished business and exposing taxpayers to higher costs for an additional legislative session. I therefore object to and disapprove of these appropriations.”

Abbott vetoed Article 10 of the state budget approved by the legislature Friday. Article 10 not only funds lawmakers’ salaries, but also the salaries of staff and maintenance workers, and it funds legislative agencies such as the Legislative Reference Library.

Abbott’s veto of Article 10 is unprecedented, according to the Legislative Reference Library. Similarly, the Democrats’ walk-out in May to stop legislation that was otherwise primed to pass is a move that has rarely been done in Texas politics.








And the grift is on:


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Since it seems the Reps are in the majority they should at this time create a bill where if this happens again members not present because they decided to leave the state should have their offices vacated and the governor picking the new one. I'll bet they wouldn't do that again.
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Publicity stunt. The bill will pass eventually.

The funny part is the dems acting like they actually sacrificed something. They all look like they’re taking vacation selfies. I am honestly embarrassed for them.
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Better make sure all these morons pay out of their own pockets for this little “vacation”. I’m sure they will use the state of Texas’ money or try to pull it out of campaign funds. This should cost them from their own pocket since they claim to be sacrificing. Liberals are glaringly stupid.
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So how are these liberals going to respond when Republicans pull this kind of trick when they try and ram this “human infrastructure” bill down our throats?
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(07-12-2021 05:56 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Texas Democrats Decide to Play a Ridiculous Game of Chicken They Can't Win


Quote:I have good news: Minority rights in a legislative body are good again.

After months of Democrats from across the country insisting that pure majoritarian rule is the only way to preserve “democracy,” they’ve suddenly decided cheap games to obstruct the passage of various bills are totally acceptable. Unlike the legitimate tool that is the filibuster in the Senate, though, Texas Democrats are literally getting on a plane and leaving the state, presumably forever if their gambit is to work.



Imagine having to share a plane with these insufferable people. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

These are people ostensibly paid to govern. Instead, they are going to Washington D.C. to hide out in order to prevent Gov. Greg Abbott from calling the legislature into session to pass the various bills proposed. I can’t imagine this is going to go over well with many Texans.

As to why they are doing this, it’s largely being blamed on Texas’ voter security bill, which is just a run-of-the-mill list of general reforms setting standards for the voting system, many of which were blown up for the “emergency” of 2020. It’s not Jim Crow and it’s certainly not worth these people abandoning their constituents over. Yet, here we are, and notice none of them are wearing masks. Weird, right?



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Abbott has already cut the pay of these do-nothings. Things get more complicated in September, though, when the pay of their staffers is also cut.



This is a game of chicken that these Texas Democrats can’t win. They’ve dug the hole so deep with their rhetoric and promises, drinking so much of the Kool-Aid that is national press adoration, that they’ve boxed themselves into a corner. That’s how you end up on a flight with no return date to Washington D.C. while your staffers stare at the unemployment line in two months. These elected officials and their subordinates presumably have families and children to see and provide for.

What that means is that eventually, these clowns will have to return home, and it’ll likely be a lot sooner than most think. When they do, these various bills will pass because Republicans have the majority to pass them under the rules as they exist. They can not just abandon their families forever. They can’t just forgo campaigning for their next elections. Their staffers can’t subsist without a paycheck.

In short, this is a sad, pathetic attempt to subvert the electoral system of representation in Texas. Not only will it not succeed, but this is also going to hurt Democrats in the long run in the Lone Star State. Whatever D.C. consultant told them this was a good idea is an idiot.

Now there is a novel idea. An idiot living in DC.
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Is there a petition to ask that they never be allowed back in the state?

We have one for Jeff Bezos.
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These flee the state publicity stunts are tiresome
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3rd grade recess
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Last night the governor said that he will call another special session when the time limit on this one runs out and continue to do so as long as needed. Do these morons plan on never returning?
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It was dumb when Republicans did it in Oregon 2 years ago, and it’s dumb now.
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(07-13-2021 06:58 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  It was dumb when Republicans did it in Oregon 2 years ago, and it’s dumb now.

Both of them?
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(07-13-2021 07:07 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(07-13-2021 06:58 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  It was dumb when Republicans did it in Oregon 2 years ago, and it’s dumb now.

Both of them?

Lol I see what you did there.

I don’t think Oregon as a whole is as liberal as most people think. I think 40% or close to it voted for Trump. Lots of land outside of Portland.
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Abbott and DeSantis are both great gov's. Cuomo, Newsom and fat Gretch could learn a thing or 2 from them.
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Texas Democrat: We Flew Private Because ‘Everybody Wants To See’ Us Together


Quote:Texas state Rep. Trey Fischer (D) claimed that dozens of Democratic lawmakers who fled Texas Monday needed to fly privately because “everybody wants to see” them together.

Fischer appeared on CNN’s “New Day” on Tuesday after he and at least 50 other Democratic House lawmakers fled Texas to break quorum and prevent the GOP-controlled House from passing election reforms. The Democratic lawmakers fled to Washington, D.C., to demonstrate in support of a Democrat-backed federal overhaul of election law.

On CNN, Fischer defended him and his colleagues’ decision to hire private jets to take them from Texas to Washington. The group of lawmakers were mocked and accused of hypocrisy on social media after photos of the group were made public. The lawmakers were seen without masks on their chartered jet, which would have been forbidden on a commercial flight.

“So, number one, when you break a quorum you want to be successful, so I think everybody wants to see 51, 52, 55 Democrats on the same plane. That’s reassuring,” Fischer said, explaining the decision to charter a jet. “Number two, to get a flight out of town at a time certain – you know, getting everybody to come if from across the state – you need to fly privately. And, as you can see from the picture, we’re talking about the same kind of plane that the public uses every day. There are no fancy couches or anything like that. This was just a regular plane that moved us from one state to another.”

Texas Governor Greg Abbott pledged to call as many special sessions of the state legislature as needed to pass his legislative priorities, including election reforms. A special session of the Texas legislature can last up to 30 days under state law.

“We have special sessions that last 30 days, and the governor calls them and I will continue calling special session after special session, because over time it’s going to continue until they step up to vote,” Abbott said on Fox News Monday. He went on to accuse them of misrepresenting the proposed election reforms that purportedly motivated them to flee the state.

“The thesis that they are operating under is completely false, because what the Texas law does, doesn’t hinder anybody’s ability to vote,” he said. “In fact, interestingly, what Texas is seeking to do is to add additional hours to vote. Texas has 12 days of early voting and the hours of which will be expanded. And we will ensure that hours are expanded on Election Day also. So their entire thesis is completely wrong.”

Abbott said the rogue lawmakers will be arrested after they return to Texas.

“What the law is, it’s in the Constitution, and that is the house, the State House of Representatives who were here in the Capitol in Austin right now, they do have the ability to issue a call to have their fellow members who are not showing up to be arrested, but only so long as that arrest is made in the state of Texas,” Abbott said. “That’s why they have fled the state. Once they step back into the state of Texas, they will be arrested and brought to the Texas Capitol, and we will be conducting business.”
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so these morons are flying on a private jet while simultaneously panicking over MUH CLIMATE CHANGE, not wearing a mask while telling the public to wear one even if vaccinated (I'm sure these dumbfks were the 1st in line to get jabbed) and did they have to show an ID to fly while running away like pansy ass cowards over voter ID?

so much hypocrisy
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