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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 12:13 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...s-transfer

Quote:Timberlake entered the season as a projected first-round NBA draft pick, but he dealt with ankle and shoulder injuries all season and played in only seven games. He will immediately become one of the best available transfers.

To be honest, that was at the beginning of last season before he was injured. Most stuff I see now predicts second round. Still, that link took me under five seconds to Google.


I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

Stammers and a handful of others agree.

But there seem to be a decent number of you (perhaps not you aardwolf) who disagree.

Again, and as noted, I suppose Penny could primarily play "small ball" — starting AL, LQ, LN and ET with DW the lone big. But I feel that would be very risky.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:13 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...s-transfer

Quote:Timberlake entered the season as a projected first-round NBA draft pick, but he dealt with ankle and shoulder injuries all season and played in only seven games. He will immediately become one of the best available transfers.

To be honest, that was at the beginning of last season before he was injured. Most stuff I see now predicts second round. Still, that link took me under five seconds to Google.


I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

Stammers and a handful of others agree.

But there seem to be a decent number of you (perhaps not you aardwolf) who disagree.

Again, and as noted, I suppose Penny could primarily play "small ball" — starting AL, LQ, LN and ET with DW the lone big. But I feel that would be very risky.

It will be interesting...But it likely shake out to be the best performing players...

Earl could be good enough that we are willing to play non-traditionally.

But Earl starting for this team is actually a positive sign...Because that points to the fact that he is a very good player.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

Here's one. It's Givony's last mock. If you're not ESPN+, I'll tell you - Givony has him at #20.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...-prospects
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

Well, kinda.
Nolley was better. And many here were taking the wait and see, saying he would have to earn PT because we had all these guys back. They were disregarding all the indicators.
Same with Earl. All indications are he will be one of the best players on this team. He won't play because of his transfer rating. But his transfer rating should tell you he's really good and will play. I mean, he's rated much higher than Mossa, DJ, Boogie. Does that NOT tell you something?
At the same time, do you really think promises are never made?
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

As I said yesterday in post #86 and again just now, Earl is currently on a reputed (ESPN) 2022 NBA Mock Draft.
And why does "the transfer" create question marks about Earl?
Finally, let me be clear. I don't think Earl will "steal" a start from LQ or LN. I think all 3 + DW will be starting.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

Don't fret that you missed it.
Evidently you have too many teams you're trying to be a fan of.
But I hear Bluto has your name written in a rose tattoo.
\lol
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 04:14 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

Here's one. It's Givony's last mock. If you're not ESPN+, I'll tell you - Givony has him at #20.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_...-prospects


I can't read but No. 20 ... that's strong. I hope Givony is correct because that suggests ET is going to a top-notch player for Memphis.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 04:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

As I said yesterday in post #86 and again just now, Earl is currently on a reputed (ESPN) 2022 NBA Mock Draft.
And why does "the transfer" create question marks about Earl?
Finally, let me be clear. I don't think Earl will "steal" a start from LQ or LN. I think all 3 + DW will be starting.

My thinking on the transfer thing is that it sometimes takes players who are new to a program time to adjust. And for those coming off an injury, the adjustment might require even more time.

So you see Lester as the primary PG and Nolley and Timberlake on the wings? I'm down with it if Lester shines leading the show.
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(07-15-2021 04:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

Don't fret that you missed it.
Evidently you have too many teams you're trying to be a fan of.
But I hear Bluto has your name written in a rose tattoo.
\lol


Great job with the "rose tattoo" reference! A fantastic song from a stellar band.

I would like to see the Tigers take to the FedEx Forum court for warmups to a full-blast version of DKM's Prisoners Song. Sadly, that's not going to happen.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 06:23 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 04:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

Don't fret that you missed it.
Evidently you have too many teams you're trying to be a fan of.
But I hear Bluto has your name written in a rose tattoo.
\lol


Great job with the "rose tattoo" reference! A fantastic song from a stellar band.

I would like to see the Tigers take to the FedEx Forum court for warmups to a full-blast version of DKM's Prisoners Song. Sadly, that's not going to happen.

If you're a fan of things Irish in Nashville...

I lived in the area a few years ago, and had an Irish friend who was a partner in an Irish restaurant out around Donelson named McNamara's. It's pretty good.

I went with him one night, and the managing partner got on the PA and introduced him as a former middleweight boxing champ from Ireland (which was not true). We had people coming up for photos all night.
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(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Again, and as noted, I suppose Penny could primarily play "small ball" — starting AL, LQ, LN and ET with DW the lone big. But I feel that would be very risky.

it would be risky against only a handful of teams. In today's game the smaller quicker player generally has more of an advantage that the larger, slower one. The only exception is when you face a team that has a highly skilled big with a low-post game - how many of those do we face?

the "small-ball" focus would create more problems for the vast majority of our opponents than it does for us. to me the only real risk is potential foul trouble for Williams guarding the post, he has the tendency to reach.

Malcom should get significant minutes, and hopefully Sam can contribute, but the lineup above should be hell for most teams to try to deal with.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-15-2021 06:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 04:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

As I said yesterday in post #86 and again just now, Earl is currently on a reputed (ESPN) 2022 NBA Mock Draft.
And why does "the transfer" create question marks about Earl?
Finally, let me be clear. I don't think Earl will "steal" a start from LQ or LN. I think all 3 + DW will be starting.

My thinking on the transfer thing is that it sometimes takes players who are new to a program time to adjust. And for those coming off an injury, the adjustment might require even more time.

So you see Lester as the primary PG and Nolley and Timberlake on the wings? I'm down with it if Lester shines leading the show.

I really don't know how it shakes out. I simply don't think we put ET on the bench just because he didn't play here last year.

My guess is that if we don't get Duren, we start the season with a "small-ball" lineup (Lomax, LQ, LN3, ET, DW). Then Penny takes it from there and adjusts based upon progress.
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(07-16-2021 10:02 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 06:23 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 04:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 12:12 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 09:37 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  If Earl is the #12 transfer and a 1st round draft pick as predicted...Of course he will start.

If he is being overrated then it will be up in the air depending on how good he is...It really isn't that hard.

Nolley started most games because he was better than his backup...Not because it was promised to him or based on his transfer rating.

As I recently posted ...

... I checked six NBA mock draft websites and not one lists ET as a first-rounder. Maybe I overlooked. Please post a link.

Don't fret that you missed it.
Evidently you have too many teams you're trying to be a fan of.
But I hear Bluto has your name written in a rose tattoo.
\lol


Great job with the "rose tattoo" reference! A fantastic song from a stellar band.

I would like to see the Tigers take to the FedEx Forum court for warmups to a full-blast version of DKM's Prisoners Song. Sadly, that's not going to happen.

If you're a fan of things Irish in Nashville...

I lived in the area a few years ago, and had an Irish friend who was a partner in an Irish restaurant out around Donelson named McNamara's. It's pretty good.

I went with him one night, and the managing partner got on the PA and introduced him as a former middleweight boxing champ from Ireland (which was not true). We had people coming up for photos all night.


Yes, indeed. I've been to McNamara's. Great place. Very cool thing for your friend.

I'm a major fan of Celtic music (have seen the Murphys three times, The Pogues twice, Altan, Boys of the Lough, The Chieftains, etc.).

The reality is that most folks have no clue what Celtic music is — and would not like it if they heard it.
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(07-16-2021 10:05 AM)Oman Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Again, and as noted, I suppose Penny could primarily play "small ball" — starting AL, LQ, LN and ET with DW the lone big. But I feel that would be very risky.

it would be risky against only a handful of teams. In today's game the smaller quicker player generally has more of an advantage that the larger, slower one. The only exception is when you face a team that has a highly skilled big with a low-post game - how many of those do we face?

the "small-ball" focus would create more problems for the vast majority of our opponents than it does for us. to me the only real risk is potential foul trouble for Williams guarding the post, he has the tendency to reach.

Malcom should get significant minutes, and hopefully Sam can contribute, but the lineup above should be hell for most teams to try to deal with.

You very well might be correct.
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(07-16-2021 10:07 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 06:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 04:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

As I said yesterday in post #86 and again just now, Earl is currently on a reputed (ESPN) 2022 NBA Mock Draft.
And why does "the transfer" create question marks about Earl?
Finally, let me be clear. I don't think Earl will "steal" a start from LQ or LN. I think all 3 + DW will be starting.

My thinking on the transfer thing is that it sometimes takes players who are new to a program time to adjust. And for those coming off an injury, the adjustment might require even more time.

So you see Lester as the primary PG and Nolley and Timberlake on the wings? I'm down with it if Lester shines leading the show.

I really don't know how it shakes out. I simply don't think we put ET on the bench just because he didn't play here last year.

My guess is that if we don't get Duren, we start the season with a "small-ball" lineup (Lomax, LQ, LN3, ET, DW). Then Penny takes it from there and adjusts based upon progress.


My hope is we get Duren to pair with DW down low.

Then for the perimeter starters, either: ALo, LQ and LN ...

... or LQ, LN and ET.

I assume every single Tiger fan wants this. Would be huge.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-16-2021 01:16 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-16-2021 10:07 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 06:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 04:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 03:10 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I think we all know Timberlake entered last season projected (at that time) as a first rounder. However, I've not seen one mock draft website that has him as a first rounder for the 2022 NBA Draft.

My point is simple: Because of the injury and the transfer, there are various question marks regarding Earl Timberlake. I simply question if he is "that good" to come in an steal a starting position from LQ or LN.

Hardway knows he can't have DWilliams at the 5 for significant minutes. So DW will pair with (at various times) Chandler Lawson, Malcolm and Big Sam. So unless Lester starts at the point, thus allowing ET and LN to start on the wings, ALo will start at the point and one of the following is not starting: LQ, LN of ET.

As I said yesterday in post #86 and again just now, Earl is currently on a reputed (ESPN) 2022 NBA Mock Draft.
And why does "the transfer" create question marks about Earl?
Finally, let me be clear. I don't think Earl will "steal" a start from LQ or LN. I think all 3 + DW will be starting.

My thinking on the transfer thing is that it sometimes takes players who are new to a program time to adjust. And for those coming off an injury, the adjustment might require even more time.

So you see Lester as the primary PG and Nolley and Timberlake on the wings? I'm down with it if Lester shines leading the show.

I really don't know how it shakes out. I simply don't think we put ET on the bench just because he didn't play here last year.

My guess is that if we don't get Duren, we start the season with a "small-ball" lineup (Lomax, LQ, LN3, ET, DW). Then Penny takes it from there and adjusts based upon progress.


My hope is we get Duren to pair with DW down low.

Then for the perimeter starters, either: ALo, LQ and LN ...

... or LQ, LN and ET.

I assume every single Tiger fan wants this. Would be huge.

LQ, Nolley, and Williams are a lock, they are starting in some capacity. Just one of the reasons I like LQ at the 1 is we tend to switch everything on D. The best way that can work is if we also play Earl and Malcolm at the 5 and Williams at the 4. Malcolm doesn't have the lateral quickness to stay in front of perimeter players but I will take that over Alo getting pinned on anyone over 6-4. Everyone else can hold their own, say what you want about Cisse's offense but his quickness in space was elite for a big man.

I really don't want to see Williams spending all that much time at the 5 because of the spark and gives this team when he is on the court. It was clear last year if you wanted to get us out of sync getting DeAndre in foul trouble was one easy way. A legit low post player can get him off the floor quickly.
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(07-17-2021 12:07 AM)ATXTigers Wrote:  
(07-16-2021 01:16 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-16-2021 10:07 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 06:21 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(07-15-2021 04:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  As I said yesterday in post #86 and again just now, Earl is currently on a reputed (ESPN) 2022 NBA Mock Draft.
And why does "the transfer" create question marks about Earl?
Finally, let me be clear. I don't think Earl will "steal" a start from LQ or LN. I think all 3 + DW will be starting.

My thinking on the transfer thing is that it sometimes takes players who are new to a program time to adjust. And for those coming off an injury, the adjustment might require even more time.

So you see Lester as the primary PG and Nolley and Timberlake on the wings? I'm down with it if Lester shines leading the show.

I really don't know how it shakes out. I simply don't think we put ET on the bench just because he didn't play here last year.

My guess is that if we don't get Duren, we start the season with a "small-ball" lineup (Lomax, LQ, LN3, ET, DW). Then Penny takes it from there and adjusts based upon progress.


My hope is we get Duren to pair with DW down low.

Then for the perimeter starters, either: ALo, LQ and LN ...

... or LQ, LN and ET.

I assume every single Tiger fan wants this. Would be huge.

LQ, Nolley, and Williams are a lock, they are starting in some capacity. Just one of the reasons I like LQ at the 1 is we tend to switch everything on D. The best way that can work is if we also play Earl and Malcolm at the 5 and Williams at the 4. Malcolm doesn't have the lateral quickness to stay in front of perimeter players but I will take that over Alo getting pinned on anyone over 6-4. Everyone else can hold their own, say what you want about Cisse's offense but his quickness in space was elite for a big man.

I really don't want to see Williams spending all that much time at the 5 because of the spark and gives this team when he is on the court. It was clear last year if you wanted to get us out of sync getting DeAndre in foul trouble was one easy way. A legit low post player can get him off the floor quickly.


All strong points. DeAndre was as good as he was last season due, in part, to Cisse.

I'm warming up (thanks to this thread) to the thought of LQ as the primary point guard and ET and LN on the wings.
07-17-2021 09:59 AM
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
LQ is a great player and he does a lot of things to help a team win, but he can only play point guard when our opponent doesn't pressure the ball or plays zone. He can't break a press and when he is pressured in the halfcourt, he spends all of his energy making sure the ball doesn't get stolen. He can't get into the lane and he can't create for others. We all saw it with our own eyes.

IMO, this is wishful thinking, instead of looking at all 5 parts that you need on the floor to be a really good team. In order for us to be at our best, we need Lomax at point guard or we need Williams drawing his man outside and initiating the offense. Playing extended minutes with LQ, Timberlake, or Nolley at the point, Timberlake at the 4, or Williams and Chandler at the 5 isn't going to cut it.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-17-2021 10:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  LQ is a great player and he does a lot of things to help a team win, but he can only play point guard when our opponent doesn't pressure the ball or plays zone. He can't break a press and when he is pressured in the halfcourt, he spends all of his energy making sure the ball doesn't get stolen. He can't get into the lane and he can't create for others. We all saw it with our own eyes.

IMO, this is wishful thinking, instead of looking at all 5 parts that you need on the floor to be a really good team. In order for us to be at our best, we need Lomax at point guard or we need Williams drawing his man outside and initiating the offense. Playing extended minutes with LQ, Timberlake, or Nolley at the point, Timberlake at the 4, or Williams and Chandler at the 5 isn't going to cut it.

Agree….Lomax and Harris (maybe some J. Lawson) will get the minutes at PG.
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RE: Starting Lineup (before any more possible additions)
(07-17-2021 10:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  LQ is a great player and he does a lot of things to help a team win, but he can only play point guard when our opponent doesn't pressure the ball or plays zone. He can't break a press and when he is pressured in the halfcourt, he spends all of his energy making sure the ball doesn't get stolen. He can't get into the lane and he can't create for others. We all saw it with our own eyes.

IMO, this is wishful thinking, instead of looking at all 5 parts that you need on the floor to be a really good team. In order for us to be at our best, we need Lomax at point guard or we need Williams drawing his man outside and initiating the offense. Playing extended minutes with LQ, Timberlake, or Nolley at the point, Timberlake at the 4, or Williams and Chandler at the 5 isn't going to cut it.


My thinking is that IF (a major "if"), LQ has made strong strides during the offseason, he MIGHT (a major "might") be fine as the primary point guard. If he has not made such strides ...

... Lomax will be the main point guard.

And IF (and I feel this will be the case in this scenario) Lomax is the starter at PG and, as such, Penny opts for having a "traditional" 5 man to pair with DW (let's say it's Malcolm in this hypothetical) ... one of three of the following — LQ, LN and ET — is not starting. It's simple math.

This is the hypothetical we must ponder.

All three (LQ, LN and ET) could earn equal minutes. BUT one of the three is not starting — in this situation.
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