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Super-sized football conferences
If we decided to go supersized conferences, here's the alignment (FB schools only)

PAC XXIV

HAWAII
WSU
U-DUB
OREGON
OSU
CAL
STANFORD
USC
UCLA
SDSU
SJSU
FRESNO
BOISE ST
UNLV
NEVADA
ZONA
ASU
BYU
UTAH
USU
CSU
CU
NMSU
UNM

GREAT PLAINS CONFERENCE

WYOMING
NEBRASKA
KANSAS
KANSAS ST
OKLAHOMA
OSU
TULSA
TEXAS
TAMU
TEXAS TECH
SMU
TCU
RICE
BAYLOR
HOUSTON
LSU
TULANE
LA TECH
ARKANSAS
MISOURI
IOWA
ISU

NORTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

MINNESOTA
WISCONSIN
ILLINOIS
NORTHWESTERN
PURDUE
NOTRE DAME
INDIANA
OHIO ST
CINCINNATI
MICHIGAN
MSU
KENTUCKY
LOUISVILLE
WEST VIRGINIA
PENN ST
PITT
TEMPLE
MARYLAND
SYRACUSE
BUFFALO
RUTGERS
BOSTON COLLEGE
MASSACHUSETTS
UCONN

SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

UVA
VIRGINIA TECH
UNC
NCSU
DUKE
WAKE FOREST
SOUTH CAROLINA
CLEMSON
GEORGIA
GEORGIA TECH
FLORIDA
FSU
USF
UCF
THE U
ALABAMA
AUBURN
OLE MISS
MISS ST
TENNESSEE
VANDERBILT
MEMPHIS

SUN BELT CONFERENCE

CITADEL
LIBERTY
TROY
ODU
APPALACHIAN ST
ECU
COASTAL CAROLINA
CHARLOTTE
MARSHALL
GEORGIA ST
GEORGIA SOUTHERN
MTSU
EKU
SOUTHERN MISS
SOUTH ALABAMA
UAB
FIU
FAU
ULL
ULM
ARKANSAS ST
TEXAS ST
UTSA
NORTH TEXAS
UTEP

MAC DROPS TO FCS (because I tried to do this without moving teams up)
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
So 4 power conferences? Do you have a champs only 4-team playoff too? With 4 8-team conference playoffs leading into the 4 team playoff?
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
I'd probably do either a 4 team playoff or 5 (with 4/5 playing in)
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
There needs to be an honest sitewide discussion about the quality of threads being posted. I don’t think it’s a coincidence insightful members are posting less while these types of threads get posted more.
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(07-03-2021 12:18 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There needs to be an honest sitewide discussion about the quality of threads being posted. I don’t think it’s a coincidence insightful members are posting less while these types of threads get posted more.

That needs to be a discussion between the Mods. I’m guilty of these as are many other posters. I don’t mind them when they include reasoning. However, nobody wants subjective decision making to determine what does and doesn’t belong.

Perhaps a separate page for “dream scenarios,” “unrealistic but interesting scenarios,” and the like.
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
(07-02-2021 10:50 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  If we decided to go supersized conferences, here's the alignment (FB schools only)

PAC XXIV

HAWAII
WSU
U-DUB
OREGON
OSU
CAL
STANFORD
USC
UCLA
SDSU
SJSU
FRESNO
BOISE ST
UNLV
NEVADA
ZONA
ASU
BYU
UTAH
USU
CSU
CU
NMSU
UNM

GREAT PLAINS CONFERENCE

WYOMING
NEBRASKA
KANSAS
KANSAS ST
OKLAHOMA
OSU
TULSA
TEXAS
TAMU
TEXAS TECH
SMU
TCU
RICE
BAYLOR
HOUSTON
LSU
TULANE
LA TECH
ARKANSAS
MISOURI
IOWA
ISU

NORTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

MINNESOTA
WISCONSIN
ILLINOIS
NORTHWESTERN
PURDUE
NOTRE DAME
INDIANA
OHIO ST
CINCINNATI
MICHIGAN
MSU
KENTUCKY
LOUISVILLE
WEST VIRGINIA
PENN ST
PITT
TEMPLE
MARYLAND
SYRACUSE
BUFFALO
RUTGERS
BOSTON COLLEGE
MASSACHUSETTS
UCONN

SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

UVA
VIRGINIA TECH
UNC
NCSU
DUKE
WAKE FOREST
SOUTH CAROLINA
CLEMSON
GEORGIA
GEORGIA TECH
FLORIDA
FSU
USF
UCF
THE U
ALABAMA
AUBURN
OLE MISS
MISS ST
TENNESSEE
VANDERBILT
MEMPHIS

SUN BELT CONFERENCE

CITADEL
COASTAL CAROLINA
CHARLOTTE
MARSHALL
GEORGIA ST
GEORGIA SOUTHERN
MTSU
EKU
SOUTHERN MISS
SOUTH ALABAMA
FIU
FAU
ULL
ULM
ARKANSAS ST
TEXAS ST
UTSA
NORTH TEXAS
UTEP

MAC DROPS TO FCS (because I tried to do this without moving teams up)

You promoted The Citadel and Eastern Kentucky?
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Guess App State gets bumped up to the NFL?
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
Super Conferences may indeed happen down the road, but it will shrink the number of teams, not add. We will likely be left with the B1G (and valued parts of the PAC and a few Big 12 and ACC programs) and the SEC (the valued parts of the ACC and Big 12). The remnants of the PAC, Big 12 and ACC, and the higher-valued members of the AAC and MWC likely for two or three new conferences from that.
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
(07-03-2021 11:17 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(07-02-2021 10:50 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  If we decided to go supersized conferences, here's the alignment (FB schools only)

PAC XXIV

HAWAII
WSU
U-DUB
OREGON
OSU
CAL
STANFORD
USC
UCLA
SDSU
SJSU
FRESNO
BOISE ST
UNLV
NEVADA
ZONA
ASU
BYU
UTAH
USU
CSU
CU
NMSU
UNM

GREAT PLAINS CONFERENCE

WYOMING
NEBRASKA
KANSAS
KANSAS ST
OKLAHOMA
OSU
TULSA
TEXAS
TAMU
TEXAS TECH
SMU
TCU
RICE
BAYLOR
HOUSTON
LSU
TULANE
LA TECH
ARKANSAS
MISOURI
IOWA
ISU

NORTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

MINNESOTA
WISCONSIN
ILLINOIS
NORTHWESTERN
PURDUE
NOTRE DAME
INDIANA
OHIO ST
CINCINNATI
MICHIGAN
MSU
KENTUCKY
LOUISVILLE
WEST VIRGINIA
PENN ST
PITT
TEMPLE
MARYLAND
SYRACUSE
BUFFALO
RUTGERS
BOSTON COLLEGE
MASSACHUSETTS
UCONN

SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

UVA
VIRGINIA TECH
UNC
NCSU
DUKE
WAKE FOREST
SOUTH CAROLINA
CLEMSON
GEORGIA
GEORGIA TECH
FLORIDA
FSU
USF
UCF
THE U
ALABAMA
AUBURN
OLE MISS
MISS ST
TENNESSEE
VANDERBILT
MEMPHIS

SUN BELT CONFERENCE

CITADEL
COASTAL CAROLINA
CHARLOTTE
MARSHALL
GEORGIA ST
GEORGIA SOUTHERN
MTSU
EKU
SOUTHERN MISS
SOUTH ALABAMA
FIU
FAU
ULL
ULM
ARKANSAS ST
TEXAS ST
UTSA
NORTH TEXAS
UTEP

MAC DROPS TO FCS (because I tried to do this without moving teams up)

You promoted The Citadel and Eastern Kentucky?

Yes. But he also demoted Army, Navy, Air Force, East Carolina, Troy, Appalachian State, Old Dominion, UAB and Liberty along with the entire MAC if I'm reading this correctly.
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
Quote: Army, Navy, Airforce, East Carolina, Troy, Appalachian State, Old Dominion, UAB and Liberty


That's a fine conference. We'll take it
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(07-03-2021 11:15 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 12:18 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There needs to be an honest sitewide discussion about the quality of threads being posted. I don’t think it’s a coincidence insightful members are posting less while these types of threads get posted more.

That needs to be a discussion between the Mods. I’m guilty of these as are many other posters. I don’t mind them when they include reasoning. However, nobody wants subjective decision making to determine what does and doesn’t belong.

Perhaps a separate page for “dream scenarios,” “unrealistic but interesting scenarios,” and the like.

You’re fine, and so is everyone else. It’s just one poster who’s a chronic offender of this. He has started 290 threads on this site, and roughly 260 are like this.

It has impacted the site greatly, and the mods/admins seriously need to do something.
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I KNEW I missed schools! Sorry, I'll add App St. "promote" means from FCS to FBS

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(07-03-2021 12:21 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 11:15 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 12:18 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  There needs to be an honest sitewide discussion about the quality of threads being posted. I don’t think it’s a coincidence insightful members are posting less while these types of threads get posted more.

That needs to be a discussion between the Mods. I’m guilty of these as are many other posters. I don’t mind them when they include reasoning. However, nobody wants subjective decision making to determine what does and doesn’t belong.

Perhaps a separate page for “dream scenarios,” “unrealistic but interesting scenarios,” and the like.

You’re fine, and so is everyone else. It’s just one poster who’s a chronic offender of this. He has started 290 threads on this site, and roughly 260 are like this.

It has impacted the site greatly, and the mods/admins seriously need to do something.

Its like the MAC board where the mods are non-existent....

Don’t forget about the fishing posts for somewhat personal information that were spammed on the board for the past couple of months.
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(07-03-2021 12:21 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  It has impacted the site greatly, and the mods/admins seriously need to do something.


Nothing "seriously needs" done on this online sports forum. These topics aren't running people off. It's the dammed off season. Block him and move on.
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(07-03-2021 11:57 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 11:17 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(07-02-2021 10:50 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  If we decided to go supersized conferences, here's the alignment (FB schools only)

MAC DROPS TO FCS (because I tried to do this without moving teams up)

You promoted The Citadel and Eastern Kentucky?

Yes. But he also demoted Army, Navy, Air Force, East Carolina, Troy, Appalachian State, Old Dominion, UAB and Liberty along with the entire MAC if I'm reading this correctly.

He kept one school... Buffalo. He also brought back the UCONN and UMASS programs which in most cases are worse than most MAC schools on the field.
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(07-03-2021 11:43 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Guess App State gets bumped up to the NFL?

As if UConn could play in that. Their football has always SUCKED, even in IAA. And now their basketball is blow standard and what happens when Geno Auriemma retires, he is 67 now. If the ACC didn't take them in their hay day, they sure aren't taking them now.

HEY UCONN POSTER THIS ISN'T HAPPENING AND IF IT DID NO WAY YOU WOULD BE IN THAT POSITION. HOW ABOUT BEING REALISTIC, YOU AND UMASS WOULD BE SENT WITH THE MAC.
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
If the whole point of this thread is to situate a resurgent UConn football program among worthy peers, then I think the school would do best in a cozy, more regional conference whose members share comparable talents and aspirations -- like the existing Central Connecticut Conference, for example.

It might include rivals like:

Bloomfield High School in Bloomfield, CT
Bristol Central HS in Bristol
Bristol Eastern HS in Bristol
Glastonbury HS in Glastonbury
Maloney HS in Meriden
Simsbury HS in Simsbury
Windsor HS in Windsor
E.O. Smith HS in Storrs
Manchester HS in Manchester

Travel costs would be minimal, fan interest perhaps a bit higher, and Edsal and his Huskies might have a fighting chance from time to time. Some of those schools might even have on-campus stadiums.
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RE: Super-sized football conferences
Is there a reason the Great Plains Conference and the SEC only have 22 members each, while the Sunbelt now has 25? Or why the service academies are left out?

I realize this isn't a serious attempt to do anything except draw circles on a map of the US, but shouldn't there be some logic other than that?

Let's assume that, for some reason, we want to limit FBS to 120 schools, equally divided among the five power conferences, and we want to weaken those conferences more or less equally by absorbing the 55 non-P5 schools. For the most part, we want to keep some geographical logic, and we want to cull the weak links from the bottom of the G5+independents based mostly on performance.

Here would be my attempt. Each conference would have four divisions of 6 teams each, and would determine its champion by a tournament with the four division champs. Then there would be a national championship tournament that includes the five conference champions and the 3 highest ranked non-champions.

SEC
LSU, Texas A&M, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Memphis, Georgia Southern, Troy, FAU, FIU, South Alabama

South Carolina, Kentucky, Western Kentucky, East Carolina, MTSU, Coastal Carolina
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Georgia

ACC
Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, UCF, USF
Louisville, Temple, Wake Forest, Appalachian State, Connecticut, Old Dominion

Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia
West Virginia, Pitt, Cincinnati, Boston College, Syracuse, Maryland

B1G
Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Purdue
Toledo, Ohio, WMU, Rutgers, CMU, Buffalo

Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern, Minnesota, Illinois
Northern Illinois, Marshall, Bowling Green, Ball State, Miami (O), Kent State

PAC
Oregon, Washington, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State, Colorado
Boise State, BYU, Utah State, Air Force, Colorado State, Wyoming

Stanford, USC, Arizona State, UCLA, Arizona, California
San Diego State, Fresno State, Nevada, San Jose State, UNLV, New Mexico

B12
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Iowa State, Tulsa, Kansas
Louisiana Tech, Louisiana, Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB, UL Monroe

TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, SMU, North Texas
Houston, Navy, Arkansas State, Army, Rice, UT San Antonio

All divisions are grouped so their champs play in the first round of the CCT. Teams within each division are in order of their ten year average Sagarin power ratings.
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My apologies to everyone this thread offended. When I miss Teams when 1st posting, it's generally teams that have been only been FBS for a hot minute.
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