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Btw a few general thoughts on this:

1) The JMU brand is strong this has been proven many times through a variety of metrics. Most recently JMU posted that over the last few months their web traffic was the greatest among non Power 5 schools- softball played a big role in that. I only bring that up because with NIL players can earn compensation and leverage the JMU brand - that means something.

2 basketball related examples 1) players are more marketable in their home market- example had Justin Kier played in the Shenandoah Valley this year there would be a lot more sponsorship opportunities than as an unknown in Arizona 2) brand and marketing takes time to build- a player like Matt Lewis who played 4 yrs at JMU would have done well under these rules- better than a transfer portal 1 or 2 year mercenary will do.

I translate the above two hoops examples to Tyler Nickel and Paul Lewis- both would do very well via the NIL compensation rules should they commit to JMU- immediately recognize-able brands.
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this was also buried in the Alston thread, but it’s a significant statement of where JMU stands, and it’s clear that they intend to embrace NIL.

Two initial thoughts …

1) social media rankings will be a factor. Not the end all, but something that is used in recruiting and can benefit athletes. JMU looks to me to be around #2 in FCS, at least based on twitter. After the top 4 or 5 FCS schools, there’s a steep drop off and some CAA schools barely exist in terms of followers. I didn’t look at metrics for Instagram, Facebook etc. Being FBS would benefit us on these metrics I believe from looking at other schools.

2) Flo needs to be dumped ASAP for the health of JMU and CAA sports . Exposure and eyeballs will be key going forward. Being stuck on Flo will drag us down.
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Am I the only one thinking this was going to be about National Letter of Intent (aka signing day)?
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(07-02-2021 10:53 AM)JMaddy Wrote:  Am I the only one thinking this was going to be about National Letter of Intent (aka signing day)?

Yeah, it’s technically NIL (name, image, likeness) for this new policy.
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(07-01-2021 09:38 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Btw a few general thoughts on this:

1) The JMU brand is strong this has been proven many times through a variety of metrics. Most recently JMU posted that over the last few months their web traffic was the greatest among non Power 5 schools- softball played a big role in that. I only bring that up because with NIL players can earn compensation and leverage the JMU brand - that means something.

2 basketball related examples 1) players are more marketable in their home market- example had Justin Kier played in the Shenandoah Valley this year there would be a lot more sponsorship opportunities than as an unknown in Arizona 2) brand and marketing takes time to build- a player like Matt Lewis who played 4 yrs at JMU would have done well under these rules- better than a transfer portal 1 or 2 year mercenary will do.

I translate the above two hoops examples to Tyler Nickel and Paul Lewis- both would do very well via the NIL compensation rules should they commit to JMU- immediately recognize-able brands.

This is a really good point and something that I can get excited about. I loved how older athletes tended to always play college ball close to where they grew up (with some pro leagues having priority rights as well). This won't matter for the cream of the crop but being able to keep some second/third tier kids local due to increased potential of revenue streams is nice and could be a boom for JMU. However, ODU football may stand the most to gain if we focus on the VA schools.
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In my opinion this will provide a little more disadvantage to us athletics, & recruiting wise. Difference between P5 and G5 is huge, but there is also a much smaller difference between G5 and and FCS which I think this will magnify that a little.
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Bring back the U

South Florida base business proposes marketing plan to monetize the likeness of the entire Miami Hurricanes football team. Each player would receive $500 a month. I expect to see more deals like this one come out.
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(07-06-2021 03:08 PM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Bring back the U

South Florida base business proposes marketing plan to monetize the likeness of the entire Miami Hurricanes football team. Each player would receive $500 a month. I expect to see more deals like this one come out.

I have a feeling it's going to go "a lot" higher for some players.

Could you imagine having to pay for autographs for your kids from the players following the fall scrimmage before the first game? 03-lmfao

If there anything that prevents Nike from giving a player an $1,000,000 endorsement to play basketball at Syracuse or St Johns?
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(07-06-2021 03:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(07-06-2021 03:08 PM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Bring back the U

South Florida base business proposes marketing plan to monetize the likeness of the entire Miami Hurricanes football team. Each player would receive $500 a month. I expect to see more deals like this one come out.
If there anything that prevents Nike from giving a player an $1,000,000 endorsement to play basketball at Syracuse or St Johns?

Probably not. I think just whether it makes business sense or not. Darius Bazley forwent his college eligibility and instead signed with New Balance for a deal worth $1M which included a 3 month internship.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-prospect-da...8xjNH4u2Eg
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(07-06-2021 03:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(07-06-2021 03:08 PM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Bring back the U

South Florida base business proposes marketing plan to monetize the likeness of the entire Miami Hurricanes football team. Each player would receive $500 a month. I expect to see more deals like this one come out.

I have a feeling it's going to go "a lot" higher for some players.

Could you imagine having to pay for autographs for your kids from the players following the fall scrimmage before the first game? 03-lmfao

If there anything that prevents Nike from giving a player an $1,000,000 endorsement to play basketball at Syracuse or St Johns?



He already plays for Oregon but that Nike money will be powerful going forward.
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A NIL deal with Nike including a Tinker Hatfield designed NFT that can only be bought with ETH? A lot has changed over the past year.
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Assuming we don't have a going list of active JMU NIL deals, probably wouldn't hurt. Never a bad idea to help these young men and women make a buck out there.
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(07-07-2021 08:22 AM)Anders Wrote:  He already plays for Oregon but that Nike money will be powerful going forward.

Yep, have a feeling in the next couple years CFB will start to look like the NFL did when there were no salary caps in place. It took the caps to restore competitive balance.

My belief is a very small handful of teams (less than 5) may become dominant if there are no “checks and balances.” It could shift power quickly to schools like Oregon.

“Officially” I believe these deals are not allowed to be contingent on attending a particular school. In practice that will be easy to work around and hard to prove.
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I saw where Molson one of the new basketball transfers from Seton Hall has a couple of sponsorships that he is promoting on Instagram.
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(07-07-2021 09:29 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:22 AM)Anders Wrote:  He already plays for Oregon but that Nike money will be powerful going forward.

Yep, have a feeling in the next couple years CFB will start to look like the NFL did when there were no salary caps in place. It took the caps to restore competitive balance.

My belief is a very small handful of teams (less than 5) may become dominant if there are no “checks and balances.” It could shift power quickly to schools like Oregon.

“Officially” I believe these deals are not allowed to be contingent on attending a particular school. In practice that will be easy to work around and hard to prove.
There hasn't been balance in college football in years. There's Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and I guess LSU. Then there's Wisconsin, Oregon, Georgia, Penn State, Florida State, and USC that are usually pretty good but for the most part don't win ****.

Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State and virtually guaranteed 3 of the 4 playoff spots. Oklahoma and Georgia might screw it up and give A&M, Notre Dame, or Florida a shot to get their ass kicked by Alabama. Who else has a shot?

NIL should give a school like Oregon the chance to be in the first tier instead of second tier if Phil Knight is going to buy players but honestly, hasn't he been buying them for over a decade already?
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I saw something on Twitter once referencing that there was a JMU alum who was pretty high up the chain at Nike- not sure if that was accurate- anyone know?
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The Genie has been let out of the bottle. It's going to be the Wild West out there. No real laws, no one there to truly enforce whatever vague limitations are in place. It's like every overzealous booster's wet dream.
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(07-08-2021 07:22 AM)olddawg Wrote:  The Genie has been let out of the bottle. It's going to be the Wild West out there. No real laws, no one there to truly enforce whatever vague limitations are in place. It's like every overzealous booster's wet dream.

Agree. It’s going to be a bigger mess than it already is, and the P5 schools are going to drive a Brink’s Truck thru the scene promising $big bucks$ to every recruit. If fans think highly recruited 18 year old players have an inflated idea about their value now, hold my beer, because it’s about to become insane.
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(07-08-2021 09:06 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 07:22 AM)olddawg Wrote:  The Genie has been let out of the bottle. It's going to be the Wild West out there. No real laws, no one there to truly enforce whatever vague limitations are in place. It's like every overzealous booster's wet dream.

Agree. It’s going to be a bigger mess than it already is, and the P5 schools are going to drive a Brink’s Truck thru the scene promising $big bucks$ to every recruit. If fans think highly recruited 18 year old players have an inflated idea about their value now, hold my beer, because it’s about to become insane.

Oh no, unpaid laborers are finally getting an incredibly tiny slice of the pie their talents directly make. If left unchecked, P5 will...continue to operate as they always have.
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