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(05-19-2023 03:00 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  While I hope some people will consider making "serious" contributions, small amounts can add up too.

Skipping McDonalds or Starbucks can be $10 donated.
1,000 people do that once a month, its over $100k per year.
1,000 people do that each week, its $500k

Thats enough to make a difference. Maybe not enough to sign mega star players, but it can change things.

Agree although I feel the same way about the Duke Club and also the Endownment. If every JMU alumni gave $10 a month we'd double our endowment in less than 10 years.
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FAU kept their basketball team/players intact, which is pretty amazing after the run they just had. Rumor is they raised about 400k nil. Article at the athletic.

https://theathletic.com/4521911/2023/05/...dusty-may/
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I was thinking about it the other day. The peer team that could really get a leg up on us with NIL would be liberty. They have so many sources to use.

I wonder how much they pay to be the primary sponsor for #24 in nascar?
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(05-31-2023 08:49 AM)Dukester Wrote:  I was thinking about it the other day. The peer team that could really get a leg up on us with NIL would be liberty. They have so many sources to use.

I wonder how much they pay to be the primary sponsor for #24 in nascar?
Their deal is for 12 races a year with primary sponsorship cost at approximately $300k/race.
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(05-31-2023 08:49 AM)Dukester Wrote:  I was thinking about it the other day. The peer team that could really get a leg up on us with NIL would be liberty. They have so many sources to use.

I wonder how much they pay to be the primary sponsor for #24 in nascar?

At least officially, NIL can't come directly from the schools resources. Those deep pockets are from the school's online degrees, not fanbase donors. Now perhaps they could play some shenanigans with funneling money thru other pockets/accounts, but they'd potentially be strung up by NCAA if caught doing so. It would be SMU all over again.

I think they are not likely as big a threat as some of the other SBC schools are.
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(05-31-2023 09:24 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 08:49 AM)Dukester Wrote:  I was thinking about it the other day. The peer team that could really get a leg up on us with NIL would be liberty. They have so many sources to use.

I wonder how much they pay to be the primary sponsor for #24 in nascar?
Their deal is for 12 races a year with primary sponsorship cost at approximately $300k/race.

$3.6 Million advertising on a car alone. It must be nice.......
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(05-31-2023 12:15 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 09:24 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(05-31-2023 08:49 AM)Dukester Wrote:  I was thinking about it the other day. The peer team that could really get a leg up on us with NIL would be liberty. They have so many sources to use.

I wonder how much they pay to be the primary sponsor for #24 in nascar?
Their deal is for 12 races a year with primary sponsorship cost at approximately $300k/race.

$3.6 Million advertising on a car alone. It must be nice.......

It's an "investment" ... hoping those Nascar fans will signup and feed their online printing press.
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The driver has been an online Liberty student; not sure what’s worth less than an online Liberty diploma to a NASCAR driver once he retires.
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(05-31-2023 03:52 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  The driver has been an online Liberty student; not sure what’s worth less than an online Liberty diploma to a NASCAR driver once he retires.

Paper’s too slick to make good toilet paper…
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I just saw where Purdue's all-world center, Zack Edey, is flipping the bird to the NBA and returning to school for another year. I figure he is getting way into seven figures, maybe eight, in NIL cash, so he is deferring his participation in the woke cesspool we call the NBA for another year. Good decision, IMO.
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(06-01-2023 09:52 AM)Purple Wrote:  I just saw where Purdue's all-world center, Zack Edey, is flipping the bird to the NBA and returning to school for another year. I figure he is getting way into seven figures, maybe eight, in NIL cash, so he is deferring his participation in the woke cesspool we call the NBA for another year. Good decision, IMO.

I see an estimate of 830K but probably much higher now that he is staying. Bronny James is estimated at 5.9M. Unless he is a top 8 draft pick in 2024 he would have to take a pay cut to enter the draft.
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(06-01-2023 12:37 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  
(06-01-2023 09:52 AM)Purple Wrote:  I just saw where Purdue's all-world center, Zack Edey, is flipping the bird to the NBA and returning to school for another year. I figure he is getting way into seven figures, maybe eight, in NIL cash, so he is deferring his participation in the woke cesspool we call the NBA for another year. Good decision, IMO.

I see an estimate of 830K but probably much higher now that he is staying. Bronny James is estimated at 5.9M. Unless he is a top 8 draft pick in 2024 he would have to take a pay cut to enter the draft.

He can't play with daddy in college.
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(06-01-2023 12:39 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(06-01-2023 12:37 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  
(06-01-2023 09:52 AM)Purple Wrote:  I just saw where Purdue's all-world center, Zack Edey, is flipping the bird to the NBA and returning to school for another year. I figure he is getting way into seven figures, maybe eight, in NIL cash, so he is deferring his participation in the woke cesspool we call the NBA for another year. Good decision, IMO.

I see an estimate of 830K but probably much higher now that he is staying. Bronny James is estimated at 5.9M. Unless he is a top 8 draft pick in 2024 he would have to take a pay cut to enter the draft.

He can't play with daddy in college.
I don't disagree. My point was more on how ridiculous the $ has gotten.

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(06-01-2023 12:37 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  
(06-01-2023 09:52 AM)Purple Wrote:  I just saw where Purdue's all-world center, Zack Edey, is flipping the bird to the NBA and returning to school for another year. I figure he is getting way into seven figures, maybe eight, in NIL cash, so he is deferring his participation in the woke cesspool we call the NBA for another year. Good decision, IMO.

I see an estimate of 830K but probably much higher now that he is staying. Bronny James is estimated at 5.9M. Unless he is a top 8 draft pick in 2024 he would have to take a pay cut to enter the draft.

Yeah, well maybe they will start allowing college players unlimited years to play. Why not, they are already pros. Players must graduate, but can keep playing as long as they want and are happy with the NIL money. Blue chippers like Edey could retire as bazillionaires from their alma maters.

Why the pretense of amateurism? Nobody cares. These kids are pros. Own it!

Just kidding, of course, but that's how insane this whole thing has gotten. And, it is going to become even more insane.
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Bronny James may be worth it in terms of perceived marketing value he will bring to USC. Every game is getting top billing on ESPN or Fox or whatever channel they are playing. Every one of those awful morning talk shows is going to be talking about the games, what this does to Bronny's draft stock, what celebrities were in attendance, etc. If they make it to 19 or 20 wins, they are guaranteed a bid to the NCAAT.

Edey is a different story. I don't think he's a first rounder, or even a top of the 2nd round talent. He might get drafted around 45-50. And his last college game is the loss against Farleigh Dickenson? Rough way to go out. Him coming back makes sense, with or without the NIL money.
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(06-29-2023 09:07 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Liberty NIL

https://nilclub.com/liberty/football

Well "right now" that's not very much. $735 a month total? That's about $9k a year.

let's see a year from now where they are at.


I like the idea of giving an option all can participate with.
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(07-03-2023 01:48 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 09:07 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Liberty NIL

https://nilclub.com/liberty/football

Well "right now" that's not very much. $735 a month total? That's about $9k a year.

let's see a year from now where they are at.


I like the idea of giving an option all can participate with.

They have a lot of money as a school from the online degrees, but not really sure the fanbase is that invested in their football program. NIL is not supposed to come from school funding.
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They are a private school so it would be a bit different right? Or is that a NCAA rule?

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(07-03-2023 07:14 PM)hburg Wrote:  They are a private school so it would be a bit different right? Or is that a NCAA rule?

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Public/private doesn’t matter school can’t provide money beyond scholarships and stipends. Liberty can provide full COA and additional academic stipends that a lot of public’s may not be able to do particularly the G5 teams.

Not sure Liberty will aver be huge player in NIL as someone mentioned.

NIL is ultimately going to affect equivalency sports like baseball and softball even more than football and basketball because the big schools essentially will be able to get all players NIL to essentially have teams of players on full rides. Schools like JMU are going to have a hard time keeping up.
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